The conspiracy of why sports are so important ( it has to do with sex)

aussie rules is so gay. its like soft core porn to me. love it.

also, isn't everything about sex?

Originally posted by Faiol

Originally posted by dragonsmusic

Originally posted by Faiol
no

you are wrong

people watch sports because they can relate themselves to a certain person/team, therefore get enjoyment or not to see them win

thats all .... its not about sex, thats just stupid in my opinion

You are entitled to your opinion. Though calling my postulate stupid just makes it seem like you have no valid argument and/or are upset somehow by this idea within your hierarchy of how things work.

I agree with you that when someone says stupid, it means that, but in this case, I really think it was stupid, I mean, come on, to put a ball thought something means sex?

thats your perspective, if you see sex everywhere, good for you, but thats not the intention of the game

and I thought my argument was valid enough to allow me to say stupid ...

I never said that I see sex everywhere, that is an assertion that you have made up and projected onto me. And without being vulgar I don't know what else to tell you about my premise. Yes , it's about putting it into the hole. Is that so hard to understand? Most sports involve putting it into the hole. Yes it's my perspective, but calling it stupid only makes you look that way.

Originally posted by badgerprints
Went to an all female roller derby saturday night.

Lot's of fun.

Sexual connotations anyone?

Well , it's an all female circle , isn't it badger? Need I say more ?

Originally posted by dragonsmusic

I never said that I see sex everywhere, that is an assertion that you have made up and projected onto me. And without being vulgar I don't know what else to tell you about my premise. Yes , it's about putting it into the hole. Is that so hard to understand? Most sports involve putting it into the hole. Yes it's my perspective, but calling it stupid only makes you look that way.

I think your reaching this conclusion by cherry picking sports that involve balls and goals and ignoring those that don't.
Heres a simplified list of all sports in the olympic games and if they involve balls and holes

Diving No
Swimming No
Water polo Yes
Canoe/kayak No
Cycling No
Gymnastics No
Volleyball A ball but no "hole"
Horse Riding No
Wrestling No
Archery No
Athletics No
Badminton (I'll give you this one for the use of the word "Shuttlecock")
BasketBall YES
Boxing No
Fencing No
Football YES
Handball YES
Judo No
Rowing No
Sailing No
Shooting No
TableTennis Ball but no goal
Tennis Ball but no goal
Weightlifting No

So I think we can say that most sports don't involve putting things in holes

Originally posted by DISRAELI
Instead of interpreting sport and war in terms of sex, it might be better to interpret sport and sex in terms of war.

Sport is obviously modelled on war because they both have a double component- attack and defence.
War is partly about attacking your enemy's home, and partly about preventing the enemy from attacking your own home.
Most sports have got the same two components. In soccer, attack the opposing goal and defend your own. In chess, attack the opponent's king and defend your own.
And the needs of the two tasks have got to be balanced against one another. You send your army across to France, the French encourage rebellion in Scotland. You're so desperate to score an equaliser that you crowd into the opposing team's penalty area, and they score themselves "on the break" ("Some people are on the pitch! They think it's all over! It is now!")
You can't say war is modelled on sex because sex doesn't really have this double component. War is really about possession- trying to take the possesions of others, trying to keep your own. Since sex is sometimes described as an act of "possession", it might be better to think of sex as an aspect of war rather then the other way round.

Sex does have that double component that you are talking about. You want to make your partner climax and you want yourself to climax as well. It is double sided or dual natured when it comes down to it. What you have said actually supports my premise. Thanks.

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sorry, but you didnt present any type of argument to try to change my opinion

as I said, I gave my perspective, that sports represent some form of connection between a viewer and a team

and as some people presented, most sports dont involve a ball and a hole ...

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by dragonsmusic

 

I postulate that all sports, in some form or another, and humanity's adoration for sport itself, can be reduced to a symbolic or re-creation of the process of intercourse.

"Can be?" Sure. And if you look hard enough you can probably find satanic messages encoded in beethoven symphonies.

Consider your example of rugby/football. It ignores a great deal to allow you to come to only the conclusion you're looking for. You could just as easily say that driving on freeways to work is symbolically navigating the fallopian tubes.

I think Carlin's war analogy is more descriptive, and requires less elements to be conveniently ignored. For example, in rugby/football you have two teams of players working against each other. What does that have to do with sex? What is the ball? Sperm? How does that make sense when you're passing it around to various teammates before scoring? But if the ball is symbolically a sabotague device or bomb of some sort, it seems reasonable to suggest that symbolically a team of covert operatives are working together to plant it at an enemy facility, and and the device is simply given to whichever operative is in the best position to plant it. Or that it's recognized as contraband, and the operatives are known by the enemy, but need to be caught in the act. So if they know they'll be searched (tackled) they simply pass it to another operative to continue the mission while they're being detained.

How do you explain this kind of thing as being related to sex?

Yes, Beethoven is known for having satanic messages in his music isn't he? Ha.
I haven't left anything out in terms of rugby. It's the way in which points are scored that I'm using for my analogy. And how else is one to win unless points are scored? It seems to me I'm focusing on one of the crucial parts of the game, as opposed to leaving something out.
If anything your description of rugby players passing the ball off before they get tackled resonates with the image of dozens of sperm cells all heading for the egg. Many will die along the way , but they have others along side of them and one of them is supposed to complete that mission considering how many will fail before the end.

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Mate, sport is simply sport, I think your looking to find a conspiracy in something when it doesn't exist...

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Huh?

I play and follow sports because I enjoy them.

Playing has many benefits, like getting fit and it also gives me a good social life. In no way would I attribute the sport I play, to sex (Australian rules football, not that you americans know what it is, lol).

I also follow and play sports because I enjoy them, Oz. Playing gives me the same benefits as well. I do know what Aussie rules football is , though. I'm one of few Americans captivated by other cultures of the world. I have thought of Aussie rules football as one of the most badass , if not the most badass, sport on the planet for years now.
( I always thought you were cool , Oz, but knowing you play this game makes you even cooler in my mind :cool

Look, mate, it's not about why you play them consciously. My premise has to do with what sport symbolizes at the unconscious level.

reply to post by Death_Kron


Well there's a difference. getting your hair cut is not a spectator sport. with people howling in lust over how well their team or person performs.

Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

Well there's a difference. getting your hair cut is not a spectator sport. with people howling in lust over how well their team or person performs.

Have you not thought about the possibilty that people simply enjoying watching a certain sport and cheering for who they want to win?

It's nothing to do with sex...

A work friend I spoke to a while back and said he didn't understand why people enjoy sports, the guy in question loves music gigs. I asked him why he enjoyed music gigs but had a problem with people watching sport, his reply was "Music gigs are different!"

My reply was that I enjoy watching football and boxing which is just the same as he enjoying live music, his further reply was " I guess your right...."

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by dragonsmusic

 

Like Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Huge American Football fan. It is like chess, or war. It is a ballet of power and finesses.

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,SHFF. And yes, I would like a dragon flag.

Would you please make me one?

Originally posted by UmbraSumus
Any Rugby fans here ............ ???????


You may enjoy this .

Dead Cat Bounce - Rugby

I know your angry and i know your ashamed
I`m kinda feeling the same
But we can hide our love if we pretend its a game
And give it a secret name
Lets call it Rugby .....

Umbra, that is fantastic! Thanks.

This is not stupid. This is actually very childish or maybe OP is a nymphomaniac, or perhaps you have just never had sex.

If you are anxious, as you are, to draw connections between everything and sex, it usually indicates that you are sexually starved.

Anything from putting a DVD into a player to driving a car through a tunnel to tuning a radio to eating or exercising in any form can look sexual in the eyes of the beholder.

Your own inner perversions may make a lot of things seem sexual. Walking through a door is crossing a threshold (membrane). Do you imagine yourself copulating every time you walk through a door?

There is very little in common with popular sports and sex. I don't know about you but I would hate to have my balls hit with a stick or kicked during fornication.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Well put.

As I mentioned above, this whole "sports is a symbolic sex representation" could be argued about any subject.

While I'm feeling generous today have a star

Originally posted by Death_Kron
I have only read the OP but I'll chip in with my thoughts anyway:

My favourite sport is Boxing, I'd be very interested in how someone could represent a boxing bout as being symbolic of sexual intercourse

Obviously, someone could "argue" that beating someone into submission is similiar to scoring a sexual conquest but I'm also pretty sure that one could argue that any sport represents mans desire to succeed and beat competition.

What I'm trying to say is that a sport could be argued to represent a whole host of human emotions, I think it's a flawed idea that sports are simply symbolic representations of sexual intercourse.

What's with all the sex threads recently

I think Grey580 answered that one for you quite nicely.
Thanks, Grey!

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This thread is getting silly.

Sport is sport, it has nothing to do with sex. I'd suggest spending your time more productively and attempting to dream up more realistic conspiracy theories as it's been pointed out to you a number of times now that not all sports can be compared to your sex analogy.

It's also been pointed out that it's possible to make a case for sexual intonations in any field or discipline.

Must try harder.

Originally posted by davespanners

Originally posted by dragonsmusic

I never said that I see sex everywhere, that is an assertion that you have made up and projected onto me. And without being vulgar I don't know what else to tell you about my premise. Yes , it's about putting it into the hole. Is that so hard to understand? Most sports involve putting it into the hole. Yes it's my perspective, but calling it stupid only makes you look that way.

I think your reaching this conclusion by cherry picking sports that involve balls and goals and ignoring those that don't.
Heres a simplified list of all sports in the olympic games and if they involve balls and holes

Diving No
Swimming No
Water polo Yes
Canoe/kayak No
Cycling No
Gymnastics No
Volleyball A ball but no "hole"
Horse Riding No
Wrestling No
Archery No
Athletics No
Badminton (I'll give you this one for the use of the word "Shuttlecock")
BasketBall YES
Boxing No
Fencing No
Football YES
Handball YES
Judo No
Rowing No
Sailing No
Shooting No
TableTennis Ball but no goal
Tennis Ball but no goal
Weightlifting No

So I think we can say that most sports don't involve putting things in holes

edit on 20-9-2010 by davespanners because: (no reason given)

First of all, why are you pulling that out of context? I used several other examples to make a point to that poster. If it had been you I was engaging I could see where it would be valid to point that out. As it is you are taking something I said to someone else and therefore it does not convey the full meaning to post it like you have it. You know full well it's not just about putting something in a hole. It's so cheap to take that out of context like that.
Secondly I said in the Op that it involves the world's most popular sports. The ones making billions year after year after year . Got it?
And I am sure I can relate each and every one of those to the symbolism of sex, but why should I? You went from enjoying this thread with your 100 meter dash example to claiming I'm wrong. Change your mind much? Waiver at all? Feel strong in your opinions ever?

I will actually come back to adddress each of those. Before I do I just want to say that I will start with Judo. Really? Judo is a NO in your book?

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Your making a pathetic and unrealistic assumption, you could argue sex was connected to everything (or is it in your opinon? )

I'm not too sure what you were trying to glean from this thread but it's obviously not worked.

Originally posted by dbloch7986
This is not stupid. This is actually very childish or maybe OP is a nymphomaniac, or perhaps you have just never had sex.

If you are anxious, as you are, to draw connections between everything and sex, it usually indicates that you are sexually starved.

Anything from putting a DVD into a player to driving a car through a tunnel to tuning a radio to eating or exercising in any form can look sexual in the eyes of the beholder.

Your own inner perversions may make a lot of things seem sexual. Walking through a door is crossing a threshold (membrane). Do you imagine yourself copulating every time you walk through a door?

There is very little in common with popular sports and sex. I don't know about you but I would hate to have my balls hit with a stick or kicked during fornication.

You wrote " Anything from putting a DVD into a player to driving a car through a tunnel to tuning a radio to eating or exercising in any form can look sexual in the eyes of the beholder."

Really?

Who's the nympho here, buddy?
If my analogy means I'm a nympho then what do yours say about you? Good god, man.

Thanks for projecting your own inner perversions onto me.

Who's the one drawing connections between everything and sex here, mate? I'm only drawing one between sex and sport.
You on the other hand seem to be projecting your own inner perversions. Never in my life would I get turned on just from walking through a doorway or tuning a radio.
Apparently those are the things that come to your mind though...

And who's being childish here when you are suggesting either sexual starvation or nymphomania? If you were a mature adult you would just ask what the situation is, but instead you insinuate like a child would. Bravo! Bravo!! Maturity at it's best!