Multi-State Lawsuit Over Healthcare As Soon As Obama Signs!!!!!

Earlier in a post, I said states don't have the backbone to take on the fed. I might have to eat my words.

UPDATE: Those who bet on a group effort were right. After a conference call with over a dozen states, Abbott posted the following update on Facebook:

“Just got off the AG conference call. We agreed that a multi-state lawsuit would send the strongest signal. We plan to file the moment Obama signs the bill. I anticipate him signing it tomorrow. Check back for an update at that time. I will post a link to the lawsuit when it is filed. It will lay out why the bill is unconstitutional and tramples individual and states’ rights.”

Here is the statement Abbott released after healthcare passed:

"The federal health care legislation passed tonight violates the United States Constitution and unconstitutionally infringes upon Texans' individual liberties. To protect all Texans' constitutional rights, preserve the constitutional framework intended by our nation's founders, and defend our state from further infringement by the federal government, the State of Texas and other states will legally challenge the federal health care legislation."

www.texastribune.org...

www.oag.state.tx.us...

Don't mess with Texas!!!

The text of the lawsuit should be an interesting read.


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Go states! Go states! Go states!

Hopefully this sends the message to Obama and the rest of the Congressional idiots - we really don't want your version of health care reform because it sucks in the worst way.

Go back and do it from scratch the right way!

I know people will say this is a Republican tactic, but are all the states passing anti-healthcare legislation Republicans?

Abbott warns Texas and possibly other states could sue the federal government over the measure requiring nearly all Americans to buy insurance. The warning from Abbott, a Republican, comes as Congress enters the final stages of negotiations over the health care legislation, Democratic President Barack Obama's signature domestic initiative.

"It would require all citizens to buy something — in this case insurance — or face a tax penalty," Abbott wrote in a letter Tuesday to U.S. Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn, both Texas Republicans. "This unprecedented congressional mandate threatens individual liberty and raises serious constitutional questions."

gregabbott.com...

I read the other day that the SC Attorney General and other states will be forming a massive lawsuit if the bill passes. I heard something about the Federal government not having a constitutional right to take over rights reserved for the states.

The other curious thing I heard this evening is that something about the bill is unconstitutional if it changes social security. I'm not sure what they were talking about. I wouldn't be surprised if our taxes went up immediately but other changes were tied up in lawsuits until November.

Now it starts...

I cant wait....

s&f

its getting more and more interesting. They appear to have successfully divided the country.

Now which side is gonna win. That is the question....

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I heard something about the Federal government not having a constitutional right to take over rights reserved for the states.

This has been an issue for quite some time. And frankly, I am really surprised that states haven't taken on the FED over similar issues in the past.

It's about time the states finally stood up for themselves and the people. I applaud this immediate show of solidarity, as I believe it is the best way to stomp down this unconstitutional bill. If we can't stand together for something, then in the end we stand for nothing. Go United STATES!

lawsuits are just going to get held up in court and do nothing, ultimately get dismissed.

I'll be impressed when I start seeing succession; nothing speaks louder then that.

Originally posted by sos37
Go states! Go states! Go states!

Hopefully this sends the message to Obama and the rest of the Congressional idiots - we really don't want your version of health care reform because it sucks in the worst way.

Go back and do it from scratch the right way!

I agree with you, but has any "message" to Obama stopped him yet in his attempts to tear down America? Not that anyone could notice. Karl Marx would be so proud of Obama right now

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Your probably right about the lawsuits. But if the states can get the first court to rule the bill unconstitutional, doesn't that put the brakes on the whole deal until the next appeal court chimes in.

I'll be impressed when I start seeing succession; nothing speaks louder then that.

What state do you think would be the first to declare?

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I don't think you'll have to wait too long for that. If the SC stalls on this, many states will not allow the money to be taken from their citizens while a ruling is just prolonged. Too many states are deeply in the red, and the job cuts that will follow this will hurt the state's budget even more- especially the ones on the brink already.

Originally posted by jam321
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Your probably right about the lawsuits. But if the states can get the first court to rule the bill unconstitutional, doesn't that put the brakes on the whole deal until the next appeal court chimes in.

I'll be impressed when I start seeing succession; nothing speaks louder then that.

What state do you think would be the first to declare?

I don't think this bill will ever be ruled unconstitutional, even if it is. I've lost all faith in supreme court, and don't expect anything from them. The last ruling that corporations have the same rights as people put the nail in the coffin for that one.

As for what state goes first...Sadly I think none, the liberal population has invaded all the southern states. If one did it would be SC, TX, AL I think. But if I knew that I would already be looking for property tonight.

Pretty sure the bill has been checked 1000 times if it's within constitutional laws or not. But if it makes those States happy to look ridiculous and grasp at grassroots, fine.

Happy the bill's accepted, it'll help a lot of Americans.

Virginia will file suit against the federal government charging that the health-care reform legislation is unconstitutional, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli's office confirmed last night.

Cuccinelli is expected to argue that the bill, with its mandate that requires nearly every American to be insured by 2014, violates the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution. The attorney general's office will file suit once President Barack Obama signs the bill into law, which could occur early this week.

www2.timesdispatch.com...

xstealth- My bet is on SC.

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Texas



I think it is because it will lead to a much stronger Federal Government. None of them are prepared to succeed at the endeavor.

If I didnt know better I think they are hoping for it.

reply to post by MrXYZ

Pretty sure the bill has been checked 1000 times if it's within constitutional laws or not

Hope they aren't the same minded lawyers who believed Torture was constitutional.

Even lawyers make mistake.

Just like I'm sure they checked the constitutionality 1000 times for the Patriot Act? I think not. Constitutionality has not been an issue for 100 years, why should it matter to them now?

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What you think about this?

According to Eric, Justice Scalia was the only justice to respond. His brief letter read:

I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, “one Nation, indivisible.”) Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.

blogs.wsj.com...

I think it doesn't matter what the Feds say. Who are they to tell a state they can not succeed from the union, they can do nothing about it without sparking a civil war. It is best to let the state become its own republic.

Virginia lawmakers have passed a law making it illegal to require Virginians to carry health insurance.

VA might be a possibility.

What are they exactly going to sue over? Federal involvement in healthcare? Healthcare costs? Socialism? Because while these state politicians are busy feeding off more publicity they can add in medicare, medicaid and the compulsory automobile licences to their lists. After all, medicare and medicaid are a complete waste by the rightwing. So why dont any of these politicians want to add it with? Infact why have these politicians in particular on the rightwing walked away from removing these programmes?

Its politics as usual, and like the 'states rights' lawsuits of last year, the 50 or so birther lawsuits thus far and the anti-stimulus lawsuits from the same politicians who eventually needed to use, this will not get far as well. I would have figured after the ones mentioned people would have learned a thing or two about politics and opportunists for publicity.

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