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Originally posted by Mr Mask
If you missed where he said aliens run our government (early on within the newest speech),
or if you fail to see his "oh-so-urgent" message of the horrible "bad-aliens" (cus some are bad, and some are good, as he assures)
Are we slaves?
Let me ask you a small thing?
WHAT THE HELL would a man HAVE to say for you to assume he was lying?
Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by iamsupermanv2
I do thank you for showing support...I know I am a hard man to adopt into many "discussions" ...but I can't stand people who fool people for a living, and then having their zealots attack ME for being right.
And I am right...
And no...I don't have to prove it.
Originally posted by kshaund
One possibility you haven't offered is that perhaps "Alex" is being duped - and that doesn't make him anything but a victim like we are.
Originally posted by Mr Mask
I refer you to his endless "prophecies complete with dates" that did not come true.
Originally posted by kshaund
To clarify -
"If" Alex is being tricked, he is a victim, not a liar. I believe we are all victims of lies, our entire reality is based on lies created and perpetrated by the powers that be.
We are all being duped, therefore we are all victims of lies, you too !
We're all being given run-arounds and have to sift through intentional deceivers, unintentional deceivers and those telling the truth (or layers of truth).
Mind control projects have been around for many decades, there's another possibility.
My problem is there are obvious scammers out there who are reaping in gobs of money and encouraging people to follow their every word like Sean David Morton and Richard Hoagland - Alex does not do this, so why pick on him over them?
That he gets paid to speak is an absurd reason to see him as a scammer - most people invited to travel and speak anywhere get an honorarium - if Alex is condemned for this, then should all the other 'speakers' of the world, the CEO's, the workshop facilitators, the book authors, etc. etc. etc.
I have no idea if what he speaks is real truth (it really happened), is his truth (he believes it happened but didn't), or is intended lies (he made it all up).
So you've read all Alex's words, so have many others, myself included.
Have you spoken with Alex to ask him directly about your concerns in his words? Have you spoken to any other researchers who know or have worked with him? Have you read other researchers works and cross-referenced them? Have you met ANY of these people??? Have you done any field research yourself?
If not, then by my definition you are an armchair critic, someone who sits at home, reads this and that and becomes a self-proclaimed 'expert'.
I think its unfortunate to waste energy trying to discredit Alex when he's not asked for anything from anyone, ever!
If you want to critique his work and words that's one thing, but attacking him personally is quite another and reflects very poorly on your intentions and credibility.
Originally posted by MajorDisaster
PS. Constant use of "wacko", "gullible", "crazy folk" is highly insulting. I'm almost feeling like we're not great buddies any more, Masky!
[edit on 10-1-2010 by MajorDisaster]
Originally posted by Mr Mask
I am sorry if you feel you fall into this category or if you find my "thoughts" on people who throw rational thought out the window to give credit to Alex as "delusional, undereducated, or gullible".
.....
If we are to interact in a friendly sense, we must get over the fact that I find you to be a little bonkers and overly hopeful to the point of irrationality
Originally posted by MajorDisaster
Don't assume that just because I have certain spiritual beliefs and practices or that I have that nasty habit of sticking up for certain highly controversial individuals who are attacked by many at ATS..... don't assume that I am incapable of careful, rational thought, logic, reason and analysis.
Originally posted by Dave157
Mr. mask
i don't mean to offend you in any way.
but i feel as though you were offended by what Alex has to say, simply because if he is right, than your whole idea of reality is wrong.
However i do agree with you on the fact that Alex has made ridiculous claims, and has no doubt lied about a few things. I also agree that he does this to gain attention.
But! i think there is a underlying truth to what he says.
I think he is dead on when he claims that the majority of the world governments are controlled and overseen by a ET presence.
Personally i think he does know something which is very important, but he makes up his own stories about events to make him seem more believable to people who latch onto any UFO/Alien story they hear.
I believe there is tons and tons of knowledge that both you and i, have been kept from whether it be due to social structure, the media or just through plan disinformation.
I just feel that Alex is trying to put out a truthful message, but promoting it with lies.
This world is a very very strange place. Both ancient Indian history and the Mayan civilization, suggest that Humans have been in contact with ET races for a long time.
The next few years are going to reveal a lot of information.
Some of which might give credit to Alex's more fundamental claims.
Originally posted by Mr Mask
But, we must agree to the facts that-
1) You think I jump to conclusions without proper proof.