What News Will Push The Market Down?

Surely, we all know its coming? The bottom will drop like a bucket of rocks... I havnt a clue how far, but I would say a few thousand points...In a few weeks time?

Debasement? Isnt that what some call it?

To many comparisons to the great depression (at least chart wise)...

But what will the news be? What kind of news?

War rumors? Nah..I dont think so...bank failings? Been there! Dont we all know they arent going to let that happen...again? Bailout city baby...keeping those banks in check...

Swine flu?

Healthcare reform?...hhhhmmmm....

There has been so much bad news what could there be left to swing the market the other way?

Hopefully those with a more in depth understanding can offer some views?

Anyone willing to throw out some predictions?

Whos the new Reinhardt gunna be?...

Im starting to think there wont actually be a crash...the numbers might say that there should be,but the power central banks have to manipulate things on a whim means they can change the rules at anytime...At the start of the year my view was different but now i think there wont be a huge collapse.A slow deterioration for a while when it comes to unemployment rates but it will start to pick up again at the end of the year beginning of next.

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really? i dont think there is going to be a crash like in one or two days..i think it will be how it was last year..over a few weks or a few months..until unempoyment rebounds...

but i do tend to agree that major manipulation is happening as we converse...when it all comes down to it..its about punching a few numbers in a computer...and watching the rats scramble to try and make sense of their new cheese...

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When the rest of the world decides on a new reserve currency and dumps the dollar.

Freefall.

When the rest of the world decides on a new reserve currency and dumps the dollar.

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Swiss bank UBS AG has agreed to a settlement with the US to resolve a lengthy tax evasion probe, the Wall Street Journal reports. The details are currently under wraps, as the final documents await signatures. UBS will likely hand the IRS the names of 8,000 to 10,000 clients, analysts predict. The Swiss government had fought hard against the suit, on the basis of Swiss bank privacy.

How the hand-off will happen remains a key component of the settlement: UBS may give client names to the Swiss government, which would in turn tell them that they can appeal in Switzerland, say lawyers representing UBS clients. A host of clients, sensing an impending settlement, have already come forward under the voluntary disclosure program to report their unpaid income tax. In February, UBS agreed to pay $780 million and turn over 250 names in connection with a criminal probe.

US settles Tax Evasion with UBS

Not sure if you're familiar with this story, but it is my understanding that the list could go public by next week. Apparently, there are some heavy hitters on this list to include:

Corporate CEO's, government officials, and possibly even key members of the reserve...This is just my guess, so who knows, but if it is true...this will completely obliterate any remaining credibility the government may have had left with the American people.

Interstingly enough, this type of scenario was predicted by Cliff Hive's web bot for the end of August.

Not saying, just saying.

Also, there's also speculation that there will be an announcement of a "bank holiday" on Aug 26.

What needs to be watched is the hints they are passin out.
This thing can't be done by a long shot. Just friday more banks are closing with some 300 on the brink. They did the TARP monies to stablize this. In fact money has been put back into TARP fund from larger banks, and the fact they never used all of it in the first place.

Something is not right about this, except for trying hard to shove out any small bank owners so that the large (13 family) banks own most of the market.

Why did the White House not give out the numbers at the end of July? They still have not let them out.

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What news?
It has to be something that is proven to rock the markets. Like at this moment, the Japanese market is losing 400(!) points. The reason?

omg.yahoo.com...

Her stop in Warsaw fell not only a day before her birthday, but also on the August 15, the Roman Catholic holiday celebrating the heavenly assumption of the Virgin Mary — timing that angered some Catholics.

The news has to be that Madonna is actually Virgin Mary, or that Obama is the president who can actually run things around.

Y'all realize that the bottom didn't hit until 1933, yes? That's four years after the crash of 29.

So four years from 08 is 12.

Anyone who thinks there's a recovery is retarded. Oil will simply cut those gains.

Originally posted by eldard
Y'all realize that the bottom didn't hit until 1933, yes? That's four years after the crash of 29.

So four years from 08 is 12.

Anyone who thinks there's a recovery is retarded. Oil will simply cut those gains.

That's true. A market crash is considered an event where there is a substantial depreciation of stock value over a very short period of time, but the result may not be the bottom of a decade, for example, as the historical Dow Jones figures show. The "mother of all bottoms" really took place later in the middle of 1932.

But the look at the history may rule out the outbreak of WW3 as an event that would disable the engine that drives the market: When WW2 broke out in September 1939, the market hardly took notice. When looking at the historical chart, a space alien would suspect that the world was experiencing a huge global war going on between 1929 and 1933.

The market is unconsciously reacting to the news about Britney Spears, and no one knows why is it so. The link is being kept secret, so folks wouldn't freak out.

Originally posted by eldard
Y'all realize that the bottom didn't hit until 1933, yes? That's four years after the crash of 29.

So four years from 08 is 12.

Anyone who thinks there's a recovery is retarded. Oil will simply cut those gains.

Also a lot of ppl don't remember the several sucker's rallys on the
way to bottoming out either.




There are a lot of things coming that will likely cause problems for
the market, some are predictions, some are speculation, some are facts.

But anyway you slice it, major problems are coming.

It has been confirmed by other news sources now that the
$134 billion in US bonds were likely real, and the japanese
men sneaking them around were likely japanese ministry of finance.

If that is true and they are trying to quietly dump them on the
market and other countries start doing it, we don't have long and
it is likely the trigger event for the Wall street journals mentioned
upcoming nationwide bank shutdown.

The two below say that the two japanese men stopped
with supposedly fake bonds were released...And if they
had been fake they would have broken the law and be
held on counterfeiting charges.
This says the japanese are dumping US bonds secretly
to get off the ship before it goes beneath the waves...

www.freerepublic.com...

market-ticker.denninger.net...

We saw a failure of the 5 year bond sale of T-bills.

market-ticker.denninger.net...

Then the failure of the 7 year bond sale of T-bills.

market-ticker.denninger.net...

Below says US foreign Embassys are being told to horde
1 years worth of non-US currency due to a possible
lengthy banking shutdown.

www.marketwatch.com...

Speaking of shutdown, 7 banks in one day went poof...

www.fdic.gov...

Close to 600 Bank of America locations to be closed.

news.yahoo.com...

FDIC top level official says bank closures to increase 10 fold.

moneynews.newsmax.com...

I can see why she would say that with near 2,700 banks being
rated D+ or lower.

www.moneyandmarkets.com...

Over 1,000 Trillion in derivatives are set to implode.

theinternationalforecaster.com...

Once they monetize the debt and start printing money like mad
to buy our own debt up, they will devalue the currency and
turn the US into a modern day Zimbabwe.

They outline how this is likely to happen in these three videos.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

The tax revenues have dropped more than anytime since the Great Depression.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

The real U6 unemployment rate is closer to 21%.

blogs.moneycentral.msn.com...

34 million ppl on food stamps, more than ever before.

www.forbes.com...

The World bank says we are entering a Deflationary Spiral.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

While some of the above may be hard to believe, this is
not the first time that things that were hard to believe
ended up being true.

conspiraciesthatweretrue.blogspot.com...

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1z mental ability to controll the mentioned #s in relation to how those who the numbers reflect are effected for not playing FAIR WITH EVERYONE ELSE. *SHRUGS*