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Emergency Broadcast - New World Order Ahead!

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posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Maybe he's had a long week or a particularly crappy day; I know ther've been times that if I'd had a nap I wouldn't have said what I said at all.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Yes perhaps. I don't know if that is the case but there should be some kind of forum etiquette and even with sarcastic responses he seemed to take it off the deep end, completely disregarding any civility. Usually people will tend to be demeaning in a sarcastic way instead of being out right hostile with "your a ****stick" or "you worthless ****".

But yeah, not to completely derail things. lol



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Seitler
I'm 100% in agreement with the other guy you commented on. The world is over populated as it is. If I could just press a button and kill, at random, 3/4th the worlds population, I would. In a heartbeat. Be it friends, family, strangers, famous, beautiful, ugly, weathly, poor... you get the picture. I keep hoping armageddon happens sometime in my life, because I truly relish the idea of being around to witness mankind finally start to think for themselves again.


Then I guess you have no regard for ethics!

The answer is really simple when you learn to use your brain properly. For example birth control and family planning being a mandatory part of any school curriculm.

Also make laws prohibiting a family greater than 4. Eventually more people would be dieing than new people being born and thus a population decrease in the long run. China has implemented a maximum of one child per family and it seems to be working just fine! Why can't other countries implement a similar system?

[edit on 27-3-2009 by EarthCitizen07]



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Why can't other countries implement a similar system?

[edit on 27-3-2009 by EarthCitizen07]


Well, if you try to tell Americans that they can only have --- children, they'll immediately rebel because their freedoms are being impeded on.

As for your statement about ethics, I have my morals, which differ from a lot of peoples, because I don't look at the ethical impact of decissions. I'd rather take a look at the benifical aspect of a decisson, because I would be help the ecosystem as a whole by ridding the world of the extra burden. In truth, I'd rather leave just 5% of the population. 5% of 6 billion is quite a lot. 300 million to be exact. So, that is more than enough to start and build a better civilization. They could all gather and create a fair and just one world government and not step on a lot of toes.

Think of it more as the apocolyps if that makes you feel less squemish, but that's just how I feel about the idea.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
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Tell me then what is your solution?
What action do you plan to take?

Every action that has consequences or involves others needs to be discussed before any action can be taken in order to fully understand the situation and understand how to handle it.

Besides, this is a forum. It's meant for debate and talking about such things.

[edit on 27-3-2009 by N3krostatic]



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Seitler
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


(...) If I could just press a button and kill, at random, 3/4th the worlds population, I would. In a heartbeat. Be it friends, family, strangers, famous, beautiful, ugly, weathly, poor... you get the picture. I keep hoping armageddon happens sometime in my life, because I truly relish the idea of being around to witness mankind finally start to think for themselves again.
(...)

Wow, what a lame way to think. Who do you think you are to determine whether or not the planet is overpopulated? And to destroy 3/4 of it? At least you did mention being at random, so at least you could be included on that going away party.

As for the New World Order thing, I really don't have an opinion on that yet.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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I have a very important agricultural question?
How strong would the cows on a farm be if they all stopped being lazy, getting fat in the field and started talking about what was happening to the cows that go missing?
What would the farmers do then?



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Now there is interesting perspective.

I never looked at it that way



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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The farmers would be screwed, I'm afraid.

It is odd that you brought that up. Just yesterday I was thinking the exact same thing. I had a nice chuckle over it.



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Seitler

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Why can't other countries implement a similar system?

[edit on 27-3-2009 by EarthCitizen07]


Well, if you try to tell Americans that they can only have --- children, they'll immediately rebel because their freedoms are being impeded on.


Thats where a strong leadership comes into play! A government that truely represents the people and not corporations or special interest groups. And by strong I don't necessarily imply ruthless aggression, I am implying someone that understands what problems humanity faces and is able to convey solutions.

If people understand what needs to be done they will likely go along with the solution. The problem is we have lots of covert legislation being passed in the early morning hours without any real accountability. How can people not be suspicious in relation to such activities? You call that a democracy? I call that a covert dictatorship! At least in china and russia the dictatorships are/were transparent and people knew who was on who's side.

Authoritarianism by itself is not bad. It all depends on who is running the show and what his/her agenda is!


Originally posted by Seitler
As for your statement about ethics, I have my morals, which differ from a lot of peoples, because I don't look at the ethical impact of decissions. I'd rather take a look at the benifical aspect of a decisson, because I would be help the ecosystem as a whole by ridding the world of the extra burden. In truth, I'd rather leave just 5% of the population. 5% of 6 billion is quite a lot. 300 million to be exact. So, that is more than enough to start and build a better civilization. They could all gather and create a fair and just one world government and not step on a lot of toes.

Think of it more as the apocolyps if that makes you feel less squemish, but that's just how I feel about the idea.


Who is to say what a healthy population should be? Who is to say that even if we did exactly what you said that humans would not repeat the same mistakes all over again? Who is to say we won't be invaded by marsians next month and thus need every single human being to ward off the attackers?



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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You don’t quite grasp what he is saying. He isn’t running out to buy gold to acquire wealth. Gold and silver may be the only thing worth value if we have a full blown economic collapse.

God also helps those who help themselves. I’m not Mormon but they also advise to stock up a years worth of food and some silver or gold.

I think what he means is ??? If there was a global government requiring a global currency, of RFID chip implant Christians will not take it, therefore we would not be allowed to buy or sell unless we have the chip.

Physical gold is like a burdensome parachute that gets in the way but comes in handy when you need it! Maybe even to bribe the guards.

Hey Guinness sorry if I took your words out of context. I only made a suspicion to what you meant.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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I think this whole mark of the beast thing scares many of all walks of life not just people with strong religious backgrounds for many reasons.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Why would it scare anyone who didn't believe in the prophecy of the Bible? If I knew nothing of the Bible and hadn't ever heard it refer to a beast of some kind I would think it was just modern technology and go with the flow.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Set the bible argument aside just for a moment and think about Big brother being able to track your every move and because everybody is implanted they can tell who you're with and where you are at all times regardless of whether you want them to know or not.

Clear invasion of privacy!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
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Set the bible argument aside just for a moment and think about Big brother being able to track your every move and because everybody is implanted they can tell who you're with and where you are at all times regardless of whether you want them to know or not.

Clear invasion of privacy!


Which is a good argument not to take the mark whether you believe in Bible prophecy or not. Ooops sorry I said Bible



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Yes I agree it will happen in our lifetime. I'm not a bible Scholar.

I base my dates on the jewish calendar. I'm not Jewish, however their calendar is very precise in Biblical events, both in the old testament and also in Revalations.

Now I need to duck for cover from the Bible bashers again.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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I have a question for nonbelievers regarding the mark of the beast.

I know you can't always say for sure what you would do in a given situation, but if you were to see a system implemented which involved a microchip being placed under your skin, and this was mandatory in order to buy/sell, do you think you would then become a believer of Bible prophecy? Or at least begin to look into it?

Please don't look at this as pushing my religion on you, I just know that you have all heard of this prophecy and am curious. Thank you.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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This from David Wilcock about the 5 different factions controlling the planet at this time:

AT LEAST FIVE MAJOR ‘INSIDER’ FACTIONS
From the combined testimony of many different sources, including those I have interviewed myself who have largely avoided publicity, we now can identify at least five major factions at work here:

1. Faction 1A: The Rothschild-based "Illuminati."

Overthrew traditional European royalty and seized control of much of European power and finance. Also controls the American Federal Reserve. Historically has controlled and managed the ‘left’ in American politics, through the Democratic Party. Almost exclusively Caucasian, with a heavy mystery-school / Masonic / secret society focus, and a Luciferian belief system.

Lucifer is the wronged good guy in their system, not Satan or the Devil. They fought savagely and desperately for Hillary to win the election, including having Lady de Rothschild publicly go on television to denounce Obama — even to the point of defecting to McCain!

The Illuminati had believed in Hillary’s victory strongly enough to write in a woman president to this year’s episodes of "24." They also put in a very strong death threat against Obama by having an African-American president who was then assassinated on the show, prior to the female president taking office. Is it any wonder Obama didn’t offer Hillary the vice-presidential slot, but gave her a position to quell the opposition?
This group does have a certain amount of ET-derived technologies and treaties with negative ETs such as the Annunaki, but have far less use and development of these technologies than the rival New World Order faction.

Though they planned on engineering a "planned economic collapse that would make the Great Depression look like a Sunday School picnic," they have been utterly brutalized by the real-world effects of what has happened once the plug was pulled. War is very messy and almost never goes as you planned, and they are now desperate to stop the bleeding.

Their companies — the big banks, brokerage houses, insurance giants and the like — have been savagely weakened and / or bankrupted by this collapse. They are desperate for the latest round of bailout monies to stay afloat. Yet Obama’s administration is forcing them to give up nothing short of their firstborn, and submit to drastic regulations, if they wish their companies to survive in any form.


2. Faction 1B: The Rockefeller-based "New World Order." The Neo-Con / Fundamentalist Christian / Republican Right in America.

Though it is the inheritor of the German tradition from World War II, it schizoidally functions as Fundamentalist Christian, and is sympathetic to their cause. In the deeper sense it is only a recent "offshoot" of the Illuminati, and has even greater sympathy with their occultist perspective. Also calls themselves the "Brotherhood of Death" thanks to their history with the Skull and Bones secret society.

Israel has a heavy influence in this group, but this is primarily through blackmail and other forms of coercion. That alliance has already shown signs of splintering in recent months.

The New World Order faction fought savagely to have McCain / Palin win the Presidential election, threatening full-scale race war and revolution by how bitter the attacks against Obama were waged, including the Reverend Wright footage and fanning the flames of interracial unrest. Responsible for planning and controlling 9/11 to cement their economic and political power shortly after rigging the 2000 election to install George W. Bush as President.

This faction controls a great deal of back-engineered ET technology, and thus can do a great deal of damage. Had they won the election, we almost certainly would be in a dramatically expanded war at this point, with attacks against Iran threatening to cascade into a wider regional conflict in the Middle East and eventually, they had hoped, into the next world war. This is their classic ploy to save the economy while reducing population, and thus "saving the world", at the same time.
The Twin Towers could not have been brought down with so little remaining debris, at free-fall speed, without the advanced technologies this group has at work — including the conventional demolition tools as well as mini-nkes and top-secret disintegration beam capabilities to destroy the support columns and vaporize all the concrete into dust, which in turn blanketed the entire city and was unfortunately radio-active.

They are now very seriously on the ropes, their political power all but destroyed, and sliding further and further down by the day. Their acts are becoming ever-increasingly transparent and desperate as a result, and action cannot be taken swiftly enough to expose and nullify their influence.

As Benjamin Fulford has indicated — and I agree — this is the group that must be stopped first and foremost. Their loss of the Presidential election has already gone a long way towards sealing their defeat.
This group was very likely responsible for the recent airline disaster I wrote about, where two women met with Obama about re-opening 9/11 hearings, and their plane went down in flames a week later. No one in the anti-Obama conspiracy crowd has mentioned my article or realized this connection themselves, though it is very obvious that this was no ordinary plane crash.

This group, more than any of the other factions, completely owns and controls a major corporate news network — none other than that bastion of "Fair and Balanced Media," Fox.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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3. "Faction 2": The true historic Knight Templars and Davidic Bloodlines.

Traditional royal families and their offshoots, most of whom have been deposed and wiped out by the Illuminati long ago, and / or replaced with rival Illuminati families who then claimed their own royalty. The Knight Templar group was also infiltrated by the Illuminati faction and taken over, though Faction 2 claims to have preserved their original traditions.
This group has historically been called the "White Hats" or the "Good Guys" amidst the secret factions. I have learned a substantial amount about them through my discussions with Rayelan Allan, whose husband Gunther was very high-ranking in the group, as was she, for having been born into it herself — though he had far more contact with them than she did.

"Faction 2" used to lump the Illuminati and New World Order groups together as "Faction One," and apparently the NWO faction was overtly in cooperation with the Rothschild / Illuminati faction up until as late as 1996, when a top Rothschild was found assassinated and it was apparently a Rockefeller reprisal for a similar high-level assassination from the 1970s. (I will share this data in a future article.)

Hence these were not categorized as separate groups by Faction 2. What we now call the New World Order was, at the time, simply called the "East Coast Elite" within Faction One.

The reality on the ground is that Faction 2 has had to use similar ‘tradecraft’ and dirty tricks as the Illuminati / NWO factions in order to avoid being wiped out by them, as individuals and as nations. Until Rayelan’s testimony came along I did not have sufficient information to really know if this group even existed, but I haven’t even begun to summarize everything I’ve learned from her. It will be substantial.

In her own way she is as valuable as a Henry Deacon or a Benjamin Fulford in terms of scope and complexity of what she brings to the table. I am encouraged to find out that this group really does exist — my readings mentioned them in the late 1990s — and they appear to have humanity’s best interests at heart, though I do not agree with everything I have heard about them and their approach. I am open to learning more.
They are far and away the most deeply involved of all the groups in advanced secret projects and technologies, and this is because they have apparently preserved this heritage all along. Most likely this is also something that only the people at the top of the organization are aware of, for the sake of security.

Ever since the times of Atlantis they have had stargate technology, advanced UFO-style flying craft and other such technology. They have been the insider group most consistently pushing for disclosure and trying to reveal the truth at a speed that humanity can tolerate.

Henry Deacon has had jobs working for all the above factions at various times, and in his work with the Faction 2 / Templar elements he was told that they have always had these technologies, kept in secret. They never pushed any negative teachings on him at these assignments — nothing about genocide, Luciferian philosophy or the like. Henry laughed when I tried to pin down a date for when they came into possession of these technologies.
According to Rayelan, Faction 2 was behind the King of Bavaria bringing down Weishaupt’s Illuminati in the 1700s. They are also the true American Founding Fathers, the original group that created the American Revolution to throw off Illuminati control. They obviously are putting out movies that expose the Illuminati agenda and / or reveal inside information.

This would include 2001, 2010, Eyes Wide Shut (which cost Kubrick his life,) Contact, the first Tomb Raider movie, the Lord of the Rings series, the Narnia series as well as the entire Star Wars series of George Lucas. The Star Wars "prequels" in particular were very relevant to real-world issues amongst these warring inside factions.

It appears that Obama’s candidacy has been supported by this group, though at this point we have no concrete evidence to support the idea. Richard Hoagland points out compelling suggestions of this collaboration in his recent conference footage, "The Hyperdimensional Election of Barack Obama."


4. The New International Group — Russia / Asian Secret Societies faction. Thanks to Benjamin Fulford, who used to be the primary Asian commentator for Forbes Magazine, we know that the Asian countries have largely thrown off the Illuminati and NWO, and Russia is now completely free of these influences. India is another major player in this group, along with many other smaller countries including much of South America.

This group is not occult in nature, nor does it seem to have any spiritual philosophy per se, other than "Do No Harm." En masse, they have so quickly grown into an economic power that we have silently gone from the Group of Eight nations, or "G8," to the Group of Twenty, or "G20" that is meeting right now. Is it not ironic how there has been virtually NO discussion of this in the Western mainstream media?

This group now has the financial muscle to shut down the others completely, but that is not what they want. They are pushing for a much fairer and saner world financial system, and are very likely going to get their wish.Obama’s administration is almost certainly aware of them and cooperating with them to some degree.
This Russian / Asian faction has the full use of all the advanced "torsion field" technologies developed by the Russians, largely in secret, over the last century. It is very likely that they are aware of and have worked with the Templar "white hat" Faction 2, and certainly have worked with the last group, the Middle East faction.







 
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