Video: Camera Shy Big Brother

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
i'm currently living in china the communist china and you know what, you are free to take pictures anywhere here as long as its not a government building, i feel there is a turning point here, communist china having the real freedom while democratic america is losing it.

I saw this happening twenty five years ago and all my friends said I was over the top, paranoid, could never happen here and every other dumb cliche thing they could think of to shut me up...and oops....they singing a different tune now...a dollar short and a day late...

Advice: learn Chinese...

reply to post by Acharya Ahem , Welcome To The Real World That We All Live In ! What Do You Think Has Been Happening For The Last 40 Years ? I take It You Live With Blinders Surrounding Your Eyes ? The Facist/N.W.O Is Here. Enjoy Your Masters , I Myself Prefer To Fight It ! And I'm Not Alone ! Freedom Isn't Free , You Have To Fight For It !! Will You Fight For Yours ?

reply to post by truth_seeker3

small typo sir

written in 1948!!!

I like the cameras. It has been proven over and over they reduce crime. And since I do not believe in the NWO/big brother theories, and because feel I have nothing to hide, I would not mind seeing more of them around. However, I would like to see an independent party monitoring the use of the cameras to make sure they are not being systematically abused.

Originally posted by riggins44
I like the cameras. It has been proven over and over they reduce crime. And since I do not believe in the NWO/big brother theories, and because feel I have nothing to hide, I would not mind seeing more of them around. However, I would like to see an independent party monitoring the use of the cameras to make sure they are not being systematically abused.

Mmmm. You are exactly what they're looking for in their flock. If they have nothing to hide, they should be happy to wear a public access video cam/audio setup all the time, eh?

reply to post by Amaterasu


That is a really bad analogy. It is a big jump from a public camera and to be wired personally. Like I said: I do not buy into the WTO theory. These cameras are not in our bedrooms and until they are, I do not have a problem with them.

Starred and flagged...1984 is upon us!!!

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

When the police or private security mistreat and violate a citizen's fundamental rights, they must be exposed. They must also be sued both personally and their agency. Nothing else will get their attention. That is the only way to fight back.

These guys are worse than common street muggers. They lied, committed perjury, when they swore to uphold the constitution and serve the public in the performance of their duties. Does anyone know the text of their oath of office?

These thugs need to be publicly reminded of their oaths every time they commit a violation. They should be fired and stripped of their benefits for abusing the citizens they're sworn to protect and serve, including some serious time behind bars, including their superiors who condone and encourage this sort of conduct, especially when they interfere with our free press which constitutes denying the rest of the right to know. Nothing less will get the message across.

[edit on 9/6/2008 by dubiousone]

Hence the reason they appear to be trying to privatize the roads as a so-called way to decrease the congestion into WDC. Once they privatize they can kick anyone off they don't like. Think about that for a minute. No road access, no travel. No travel ends up being confinement, like a private prision.

Also, don't forget about all those lovely gated communities to keep people out and keep people in. Gated Community? Nice euphamistic term for "Prison". Private roads means roads in which movement can be tightly restricted and controlled or monitored. Also, meaning you can't film, but can be filmed by the owner. The danger will really be obvious if they try to privatize government buildings for reasons of safety. I wonder if you can even film in any government funded buildings? Seems that we should have the right since we paid through taxes for the costs.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective



Unbelievable evidence that we are truely in a police state where our rights are truely being trampled on. Everything about that was wrong. He had the right to be there. There was no official blockade as is required by law. He was manhandled by authorities, not read his rights or what he was being charged for!! That's basic procedure of which none of the officers chose to ignore as if it didn't matter...even while they know they are being recorded. The Rex 84 scenario is looking more like a foregone conclusion. Based on the above, it would have been very illegal on many fronts to hold this guy. I'm sure they or his lawyer had him sprung from jail though 'escorted' in the right direction or 'held' for a certain time so he could not go back to the same scene to capture images of the obvious campaign finance obstructions to justice. If the politicians wanted/expected their privacy in such a situation...why didn't they meet in closed doors like they usually do...not out in middle of day in clear view by the public domain.
This is not looking good guys.
Every day is getting more intense.
I think 'we' know why though no reason to beat a dead cat.
The authorities are obviously very nervous and concerned about what's already been exposed in the public as well as legal domains.

[ Sound is totally distorted so cannot understand one word. Can see pics, though.

I'm afraid it's worse than made out here guys! I've heard of people having their mobile phones taken away because they were making a call while standing on a train platform and one young lad who was arrested for filming planes coming in to land at a local airport on his mobile. I myself nearly got arrested for simply pointing at a passing police car after it nearly knocked me down on a crossing.
By the way, in the opening video the officers with the blue bands on are the community officers, created to save money. Why train proper officers when you can get a strategically shaved babboon to do the job at half the price? I think it is these untrained, useless, powerless officers that are causing the problem. . .

Originally posted by riggins44
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

That is a really bad analogy. It is a big jump from a public camera and to be wired personally. Like I said: I do not buy into the WTO theory. These cameras are not in our bedrooms and until they are, I do not have a problem with them.

Ah, just wait.

And I was NOT making an analogy. I was suggesting (as I did a few posts back) that elected fed officials be wired as described as part of they sacrifice to the public at large. I gave the advantages, if you want to go back to the previous post of mine before the one you responded to.

They are not in your bedroom?

Check the back of your air conditioner vent? or

The different smoke alarms set up throughout your home?

or worse yet,

your light bulbs, and any electrical device that has a red dot, or blu dot, even when you turn them off. haha welcome to 1984.

I'm appalled to see the police nowadays. Just look how they react like a 10 year old in situations that require a little brain activity. That second clip, just pushing they guy in the street. Like drones they all gather around him not knowing what he actually did. Yes fascism has arrived ladies and gentlemen. Face your government and take responsibility. Governments dumb down the people to gain total control and it's working.

Originally posted by truth_seeker3
OMG this is so creepy, hearing about this like right now. I just started reading George Orwells, 1984, a book about Big Brother, Written in 1984!

Actually, George Orwell wrote the book in 1948, it was his vision of the future.

*second line*

Disgusting pigs... your filth, get to know the bloody law before you step into peoples yards. Im so tempted to take a big f!@#$ camera and walk into a Police station, and start heckling the bastards... WE NEED TO STAND UP!!!!! Send more videos like this so people can see.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
By the way, in the opening video the officers with the blue bands on are the community officers

All those uniformed-community officers are legally capable of is to ask you to stop whatever it is you are doing...they have not been issued with any legally enforceable warrant-cards authorising detention/search, only to record and call for police back-up...just ignore them and their wannabe police powers

"What is now proved was once only imagined."
William Blake

In other words, you will (and others have been working on it) create your destiny by your fears and/or hopes. Good luck. I choose to dwell on the truth, hope, and ultimately freedom that I cannot attain for each of you, but rather for myself and only by my own will.

reply to post by citizen smith


Actually, the Community Officers can detain you for 30 minutes. If a regular Police Officer doesn't arrive in that time they have to let you go.

police.homeoffice.gov.uk...



[edit on 7/9/08 by Insomniac]