obama words;what he really thinks of white folks

Originally posted by lee anoma
Stop whining and trying to REWRITE and CENSOR history.

Don't attack them just because they work for the Ministry of Truth. Minitrue is a job, just like any other.

I think it's obvious tha Obama is ungood, and speaking out about racism is doubleplusungood. "Getting over it," (and by getting over it, they mean forgetting about past and current injustices despite the only historical record shows you must fight for such things) is doubleplusgood.

Everyone will learn this way in time.

The Guy flat out said "i don't trust white people"

How can he be president, we are a member of NATO

The majority of America by far including Hispanics is Not Black

He doesn't Trust America...

and I'm sorry the crap in the past that caused this,...sucks, but maybe what is needed is... a different Black guy, a guy who hasn't turned Socialist in rebellion from Capitalism and democracy so a self fulfilling prophecy of what this will all be doesn't need to happen

Maybe we need a less angry guy

reply to post by bramski


Ha, he condemd him, only after he was called to the floor for hating on whitey, otherwise he would still be there planning on taking whitey down.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by CaptGizmo

 

Have you read the book most of these pieces come from? I didn't think so. He was talking about when he was a teenager talking to a group of his buddies while playing basketball. His friend first said, "That’s just how white folks will do you"

And it was there that I would meet Ray and the other blacks close to my age who had begun to trickle into the islands, teenagers whose
confusion and anger would help shape my own.

“That’s just how white folks will do you,” one of them might say when we were alone. Everybody would chuckle and shake their heads, and my mind would run down a ledger of slights: the first boy, in seventh grade, who called me a coon; his tears of surprise-“Why’dya do that?”-when I gave him a bloody nose. The tennis pro who told me during a tournament that I shouldn’t touch the schedule of matches pinned up to the bulletin board because my color might rub off; his thin-lipped, red-faced smile-“Can’t you take a joke?”-when I threatened to report him. The older woman in my
grandparents’ apartment building who became agitated when I got on the elevator behind her and ran out to tell the manager that I was following her; her refusal to apologize when she was told that I lived in the building. Our assistant basketball coach, a young, wiry man from New York with a nice jumper, who, after a pick-up game with some talkative black men, had muttered within earshot of me and three of my teammates that we shouldn’t have lost to a bunch of 'n-word's; and who, when I told him-with a fury that surprised even me-to shut up, had calmly explained the apparently obvious fact that “there are black people, and there are 'n-word's. Those guys were 'n-word's.”

That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn.

"Dreams From my Father" - Barack Obama 2004

Just because someone talks about white folks and black folks doesn't mean they're racist. Remember, Barack Obama's mother is white.

Believe whatever you want. Bathe in your ignorance. Enjoy the tepid stench of not knowing anything about the CONTEXT of these comments. And then vote for 8 more years of George W. Bush.


[edit on 2-9-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

Interesting story. I love how he says we we're playing a pickup game against a bunch of "talkative" black men. So basically these black guys were talking crap, and they were probably in most peoples books, even most black peoples books "ni&*ers".

Just like there are white people who are jerks, or whatever, there are blacks who are jerks. I don't agree with the guy called them the "n" word. But hey he was prolly a racist, that does not make all white people racist.

It's time to look past skin color, and look at people as humans as someone posted before.

I mean sheesh we are nearly in the year 2010.

And people are still talking about slavery? Come on....equal rights, affirmative action ect. I'm not saying it heals scars, but please, lets all try to get along and move along.

Obama is not helping himself with most of the comments he makes concerning race imo.

Peace to everyone of every color.

It would appear that you Americans have a bad couple of months ahead of you. Its a case of damned if you do, damned if you dont!. Vote Obama in and you're voting in a black racist (didn't know they existed!) Don't vote for him and you'll be accused of racism and areas of your cities populated by black people will feel let down and may riot!
The real sad aspect about this though is the fact that with the world rapidly going to hell in a hand cart, the question of who leads America still comes down to colour. . . Thats a shame.

Originally posted by Sheeper
I believe his wife is more racist though, I hate that lady with so much fury.


God dang, we are truly getting dumber and dumber.


[edit on 3-9-2008 by Sheeper]

It cannot be denied that in the last hundred years nearly every country in the world has been invaded and stripped of it's resources by Europeans and the descendants of Europeans. In our major cities in the U.S. the police use fear and terror tactics to keep urban populations on edge. Rights are taken away, cameras watch our every move. Any excuse is good to lock you up and have you work for 20 cents a day on commisary. Slavery made this country and has always been here, except now the prison system accepts all colors, including caucasians. The old way of thinking is dissapating, the young people of European ancestry are saying no to the thoughts of their forefather's. Once this paradigm shift is complete then true power is available. The ruling class practices divide and conquer, and in the words of mlk jr. "if we do not stand together as brothers we shall perish together like fools" The first step to recovery is admitting there is a problem.

It cannot be denied that in the last hundred years or so nearly every country in the world has been invaded and stripped of resources by Europeans and their descendants. The police in the U.S. use fear and terror to keep us on edge.Rights are taken away, cameras watch our every move. Slavery built this country and is still present. Its called the prison system, where you work for 20 cents a day on commisary. Except it accepts caucasians as well now. The young of European ancestry are waking though, throwing off the modes of thinking of their forefathers. When this is complete then the paradigm will shift. In the words of M.L.K jr. " if we do not stand together as brothers we shall perish together as fools". The ruling class has always used divide and conquer methods of control. The world cannot sustain such a large human population by nature, the elite know this. They don't want us around either. What if nature uses the elite to reduce populations? Somewhat like using wolves to control deer populations. Anyway, no matter your race the ruling class doesn't really give a twit about you. Power is the objective, and if you don't have it even if your white as the driven snow your in the same boat as the "minorities". Well maybe not as bad. I think the "minorities" boat has severe leakage issues

sorry did'nt mean a double post I I thought the first one didn't go through

This whole debate of keeping race out of politics is becoming more comical by the day when you still have people voting for Obama because he is "black".

Now, decisive voting is something that a "majority" of America is not too keen on, so these sort of actions will still prosper. Now, I'm not excluding the citizens who are voting for McCain because he is "white", and believe me, there are people out there that will do that. What I'm saying is that this is the first time in history in which the factor of race does play into the presidency card and the minds of simple, stupid, and biased individuals who will vote! I know there were previous presidential candidates who were of the minority status, but none have ever come as close as Obama has.

I don't like Obama or McCain, but for the people who are trying to paint Obama as some sort of "racist" to try to advocate that you should vote for "McCain" instead should take a look at BOTH of the mainstream presidential candidates backgrounds and policies! Anything look familiar?

reply to post by lee anoma


How can you call discussing this issue a waste of time? I was told once something very wise, I was told that there are
"lovers of truth, and then there are those who choose to be deceived."
This Obama is racist wrapped in the cloak of political correctness. We all need to discuss his personal views, because one day soon we may all be under his thumb of control, and it will be too late to do anything about it.

Originally posted by RFBurns
As I said in the other thread....


When this world of people begin to see their fellow human beings as "human beings" and not white, black, brown, red, whatever...then and only then will the human race be truely grown up.

So....go grow up and get over this nonsense of race BS..this is the year 2008 moving into 2009 for pete's sake.

Its not the 1960's anymore!!!

Cheers!!!

I agree with you, but playing the race card gets some elected.

reply to post by sickofitall2012


why should "whitey" or anyone else have advantages in this country? We should all be on an even plane.

Why is it when people are of mixed race they always claim the opposite of white. This guy is white too right?

Anyway, so if he is racist, looks like us whitey's get our turn. I mean how many racist white presidents have we had. And besides, you all act as if when he becomes president he is going to put us all into white slavery???? Trust me the old white men will still run this country, just as they always have.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by CaptGizmo

 

What scares me is all of those people in that church cheering and agreeing with that crazy man. I cannot conceive having a president that agrees with Rev. Wright.

What has Rev Wright said that is not true? He is over the top for the most part but he makes very relevant points. Our leaders have been letting minorities and the lower classes down for ages so they can pursue their own economic and religous interests. Thats what it is all about. Every man is equal in God's eyes (unless you are a republican christian).

reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity


If you think that that is all that the good Rev.Wright has said then you should listen to some of his other speeches.The man is a racist along with Rush Limbol, KKK, Jesse Jackson, Malcom-x. I did not put Al Sharpton in there because I think he is all about money and flash.More like an opportunist but not racist.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


as a woman, i have a list too. it ain't no prettier than his. so what do you say we just all toss in our gripes, back date it as far in history as the crimes against people of our same bracket, were prepetrated, add up the figures and see who wins?

[edit on 3-9-2008 by undo]

reply to post by siahchi


and again i say, as a woman, my list is longer and i can back date it to our earliest ancestors. i demand reparations.

Reverend Wright and those like him simply lack the ability to take responsibility for their own lives and actions. Nobody in the last 40 years has been holding them back but themselves. They simply want a handout, not a hand. They honestly believe society owes them a living, and respect for their poor life choices. Unfortunately, nobody owes you anything, and respect has to be earned not given.

If they want a better home, they should get a job, if they want a better car, they should get a job, if they want a better education, they should get off their butts and apply for admission like everyone else. That's what the rest of the country does..

yeah, i was sitting around with the gals in high school, in our journalism class. our teacher was a hippie of the highest order, and frequently came to school dressed in pajamas. anyway, out of nowhere comes this tall, slender basketball hero. he stares directly at my breasts, and says, "you're nothing but a big dumb blonde", then he grins slyly, chuckles to himself and sits down in a nearby chair.

it wasn't that i wasn't blonde, or that i wasn't chesty, rather it was the obvious case of projection he was suffering from, that evoked an almost indescribable reaction. a sort of primal anger welled up inside me. he looked back over his shoulder, perhaps to revel in his misogynist triumph, just in time to get hit in the face by my copy of ELLE (a french, high fashion magazine). frowning and rubbing his nose he said, "why'd you do that you stupid bitch?" (dramatic license applied) he really didn't get it. perhaps it really wasn't his fault. perhaps, his parents had taught him to behave this way, i theorized.

in order to support my elderly parents in my father's last days from a 5 year bout with prostate cancer, i went to work in a factory. the men did not want women in their factory, as these were the beginnings of equal opportunity employment. one gentleman made that perfectly clear, when he applied tape to 2 pallet tags and proceeded to tape them to my nipples.

it seemed the curse of the breasts was following me around. they weren't abnormally large, just a pleasant 36c. why the fascination with them and the very odd tendency to think they had the right to touch them, make fun of them and tape things to the protruding parts of them, i will never know.

did i mention it was an union factory, the supervisor of which was none to happy to learn a man old enough to be grandfather, had just sexually accosted an 18 year old female (my age at the time) for no other reason than he felt compelled to do so and had found the shocked expression on my face to be quite humorous?

but that was just the beginning of trouble. it would get increasingly worse.

the incident with the gentlemen who felt it necessary to sniff everywhere i sat, while making suggestive moaning sounds, being a prime example.

clearly, being an unmarried and quite inexperienced young lady, this kind of bizarre harrassment was beyond the pale of shock treatment to my naive sensibilities. in short, i was horrified. my stomach turned, followed by anger that flared up from the unnecessary trauma this treatment was doing to my self-image and understanding of the dynamic between men and women in adult life. i was livid. "ewww gross," was all i could muster as i backed away from him as if he were covered in dung. "prude!" he exclaimed and marched out of the lunchroom in a huff.

later, he organized his revenge for my harsh remark (?!). he made arrangements to have the centerfold for hustler magazine, clearly the ludest and most outrageous pornography magazine of the time, to be pinned on my work station, while i was away eating my lunch on another day. this time, however, i had a little guardian angel. a single male in the factory, who was my friend, treated me normally, and didn't seem fixated on my body parts. he saw the deed as it unfolded. waited until the perps were out of sight, and quietly removed it from my station.

however, these little spots of light were few and far between when it came to interactions in the world of grown people, particularly, grown men.

i went home one day and pleaded with my parents, "please, can i quit this horrible job?" but it could not be so. dad was on chemotherapy and within weeks of dying and mom had enough stress on her as it was. she was his caretaker and could not both work and care for him. so, back to the factory i would go, dreading what new scheme would be dreamed up to victimize my tits (excuse the crassness, it just seemed fitting for the occassion) and my frail and quickly failing self esteem.

it grew more aggressive as time went on. one fellow dropped a bra on my head from a 14ft foot platform, apparently he was certain i had never seen one before (i wore one every day!). another, dropped a 110 lb roll of steel on my foot... oops...causing me to yank all 110 lbs up into the air in one swift move, nearly wrenching evrey muscle in my back. ah yes, the joys of womanhood.

to bring this to a close, however prematurely, this is but a drop in a bucket, no, an endless sea of the things women have endured for thousands of years. and i wasn't particularly attractive, just an average looking woman with average sized breasts. i could only imagine what other women were enduring or had endured, who were markedly more beautiful or bustier or both.

eh, guess it's not as dramatic as mr. obama's. but there's alot more where that came from. thousands of years of the most horrific stories of the ugly, cruel, spiteful, disgusting, ridiculous, violent, psychotic things that have been done to women for no better reason than they could. and it crossed all racial boundaries, all financial brackets, and all religious brackets.

so yeah, we ladies, we win the po po pitiful me, if ya really think about it.

[edit on 3-9-2008 by undo]