Russian Victory Day 2022: Military parade held in Moscow as Putin's speech to follow (Live)

Not a surprise that Putin blamed everyone else for HIS war in Ukraine.

and the main reason for Russians invasion changed yet again. This time they invaded for the People of Donbas and Russian national security.

Putin says the soldiers fighting in Donbas are emulating the hero's of WWII. I am thinking he is referring to when the USSR was an ally of Nazi Germany and the people in Donbas (Russians btw as Putin claims) are emulating the soviet soldiers who invaded Poland along with Nazi Germany.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Now, how do you think russia will find the influx of troops it desperately needs in Ukraine if a general mobilization is off the table?

I can hear Frau Farbissina shouting,

"SEND IN THE CENTRAL AFRICANS!"



Cheers

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: turretless
I understand your frustration.

You opened the topic and gathered here to savor the announcement of a general mobilization, but this did not happen.

Your media has once again deceived you.

What deception?

russia's own situation and comments led to media speculation, which is how it's supposed to work.



Now, how do you think russia will find the influx of troops it desperately needs in Ukraine if a general mobilization is off the table?

What do you suppose that the entire Russian army is fighting in Ukraine?!

No, but a very significant portion of their combat ready troops and equipment are, and russia needs most of what's left in other areas.

Have you not noticed the great lengths russia has been going to in order to get even replacements for their existing losses?

a reply to: turretless

Most of it. Of course they can't leave the rest of their empire totally undefended.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: turretless

Most of it. Of course they can't leave the rest of their empire totally undefended.

Lest they wish to enjoy the fatal embrace of other, eh, 'philosophies'.

Cheers

originally posted by: Xcathdra

the main reason for Russians invasion changed yet again.

Do you think RT told putin that nobody here believed any of his previous 'reasons'?

Victory Parade on Red Square

May 9, 2022 11:00 Red Square, Moscow

Overall, 11,000 personnel and 131 units of military equipment were engaged in the parade.

President of Russia Vladimir Putin:
.............................
Therefore, despite all controversies in international relations, Russia has always advocated the establishment of an equal and indivisible security system which is critically needed for the entire international community.

Last December we proposed signing a treaty on security guarantees. Russia urged the West to hold an honest dialogue in search for meaningful and compromising solutions, and to take account of each other’s interests. All in vain. NATO countries did not want to heed us, which means they had totally different plans. And we saw it.

Another punitive operation in Donbass, an invasion of our historic lands, including Crimea, was openly in the making. Kiev declared that it could attain nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc launched an active military build-up on the territories adjacent to us.

Thus, an absolutely unacceptable threat to us was steadily being created right on our borders. There was every indication that a clash with neo-Nazis and Banderites backed by the United States and their minions was unavoidable.

Let me repeat, we saw the military infrastructure being built up, hundreds of foreign advisors starting work, and regular supplies of cutting-edge weaponry being delivered from NATO countries. The threat grew every day.
.........................

en.kremlin.ru...

originally posted by: Xcathdra
There will be parades in Mariupol, Donetsk/Luhansk (somewhere in there) and several other Russian cities. Belgorad however will not have any parades. The Russian MoD announced that the air parade portion has been canceled due to bad weather. All links provided are live...


* - RT News Coverage of Parade (Live) not available on YouTube


The Telegraph

South China Morning Post

Euronews

DW News

Skynews

CGTN

Reuters

a reply to: turretless

Yeah Ukraine made the comments about nukes after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Why should Ukraine be forced to demilitarize? They had no plans to invade Russia however Russia did have plans to invade Ukraine.

The neo-nazi bs needs to stop. The lie is old and debunked in the manner Russia is attempting to use. Again Russia is the one using the Nazi playbook.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

Yeah Ukraine made the comments about nukes after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Why should Ukraine be forced to demilitarize? They had no plans to invade Russia however Russia did have plans to invade Ukraine.

The neo-nazi bs needs to stop. The lie is old and debunked in the manner Russia is attempting to use. Again Russia is the one using the Nazi playbook.

Ukraine had plans for an invasion in March and the corresponding orders were found in Ukrainian documents that were discovered by the advancing Russian troops - www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: turretless

bull#... it came from the russian mod and in case you dont know russia has no credibility. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia however, again, russia was going to continue invading Ukraine. Since you and russia are incapable of understanding this, donbas is a part of Uklraine.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

bull#... it came from the russian mod and in case you dont know russia has no credibility. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia however, again, russia was going to continue invading Ukraine. Since you and russia are incapable of understanding this, donbas is a part of Uklraine.

We have nothing to talk about if any evidence of Russia is rejected by you.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

Yeah Ukraine made the comments about nukes after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Why should Ukraine be forced to demilitarize? They had no plans to invade Russia however Russia did have plans to invade Ukraine.

The neo-nazi bs needs to stop. The lie is old and debunked in the manner Russia is attempting to use. Again Russia is the one using the Nazi playbook.

Ukraine had plans for an invasion in March and the corresponding orders were found in Ukrainian documents that were discovered by the advancing Russian troops - www.abovetopsecret.com...

Were these the same russian troops that found all those weapons labs?



So you think that Ukraine, already well aware of the massive russian military force on their border, was planning that exact moment to retake the Ukrainian territory that russia had been occupying for 8 years?

While most of the world was trying to talk russia out of invading again?



Are you interested in purchasing an interest in NY bridges or ocean front property in Arizona?




Did russia at least fake a signature from a non retired Ukrainian General this time?

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

bull#... it came from the russian mod and in case you dont know russia has no credibility. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia however, again, russia was going to continue invading Ukraine. Since you and russia are incapable of understanding this, donbas is a part of Uklraine.

We have nothing to talk about if any evidence of Russia is rejected by you.

I'd personally love to see any such evidence, but it's pretty clear you don't know what the word means.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

bull#... it came from the russian mod and in case you dont know russia has no credibility. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia however, again, russia was going to continue invading Ukraine. Since you and russia are incapable of understanding this, donbas is a part of Uklraine.

We have nothing to talk about if any evidence of Russia is rejected by you.

Yeah the problem is Russia is NOT providing evidence (and neither are you).

a reply to: turretless

If Ukraine was going to invade in March, how come they didn't begin mobilization until late February?

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: turretless

If Ukraine was going to invade in March, how come they didn't begin mobilization until late February?

Where have you been all this time?

The mobilization was announced in February.



Ukrainian president announces general mobilization of all conscripts and reservists to last 90 days

Feb 25, 2022

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday ordered a general military mobilization throughout the country...

www.businessinsider.com...

a reply to: turretless

You are aware that Russia's invasion began on February 24th, right? You pretty much just destroyed your own claims by showing that Ukraine's military was not mobilized until Russia invaded.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: turretless

You are aware that Russia's invasion began on February 24th, right? You pretty much just destroyed your own claims by showing that Ukraine's military was not mobilized until Russia invaded.

Then explain why the orders for the offensive in March were made in the Ukrainian army.

All the russian military people there, all that hardware there.

That was the perfect opportunity to end the russian madness in one go. Drop a MOAB or cruise missile on that lot and all is good again.

Who's bomb was it? Who cares, they would have got what they deserve


.