Russian Victory Day 2022: Military parade held in Moscow as Putin's speech to follow (Live)

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: LABTECH767

Ah You mean that same Ukraine currently has Neo Nazis Far Right soldiers within their national guard? and that Zalinski who has likely billions more?

Have you looked up the results from the last Ukrainian election yet?

Did the far right (not even a nazi) candidate get more than 2% of the vote?

Why keep repeating russian lies about Ukrainian nazis?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

Ukraine wouldn't be today if it wasnt for the Russian assistance to the so called allies that became weak if not in their woke social issues.

In what possible way did modern russia ever help the west?

Other than selling natural resources and letting the entire german army invade russia of course.

The Russian ambassador to Poland, against the advice of Polish authorities, went to the Soviet war cemetery to lay flowers. Protestors surrounded the Russians and took the flowers from them. Then the Russian got covered in red paint.

Why on earth would Russia think that laying flowers at a cemetery commemorating the lives of soviet soldiers who were allies with the Nazis and helped invade Poland be ok???

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

Ukraine wouldn't be today if it wasnt for the Russian assistance to the so called allies that became weak if not in their woke social issues.

In what possible way did modern russia ever help the west?

Other than selling natural resources and letting the entire german army invade russia of course.

They didn't and if it were not for the US and the lend lease act Russia would not have been able to hold the Nazis off. So I guess the US did make a mistake in that regard. Russia / USSR should have been left to their own fate with the Nazis.

Putin sure recovered from his delicate/serious surgery quickly!

Gave a speech and noone talked about how "sickly" he looks.

www.reuters.com...

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

Ukraine wouldn't be today if it wasnt for the Russian assistance to the so called allies that became weak if not in their woke social issues.

In what possible way did modern russia ever help the west?

Other than selling natural resources and letting the entire german army invade russia of course.

They didn't and if it were not for the US and the lend lease act Russia would not have been able to hold the Nazis off. So I guess the US did make a mistake in that regard. Russia / USSR should have been left to their own fate with the Nazis.

Nah, we didn't want to travel that far to defeat germany, our navy was already busy with Japan at the time, so helping russia survive made it much easier for us.

russia also (almost) fit the definition of non threatening country invaded by a bully, and we just can't seem to avoid helping countries in that situation.

I do think that giving russia the ability to advance beyond the russian border was a horrible mistake though, and directly led to both the cold war and russia's current invasion of Ukraine, among many other things.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

I do think that giving russia the ability to advance beyond the russian border was a horrible mistake though, and directly led to both the cold war and russia's current invasion of Ukraine, among many other things.

The mistake was not turning Patton loose at the end, and then there wouldn't be any problems now.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

I do think that giving russia the ability to advance beyond the russian border was a horrible mistake though, and directly led to both the cold war and russia's current invasion of Ukraine, among many other things.

The mistake was not turning Patton loose at the end, and then there wouldn't be any problems now.

I agree that was also a mistake, but Patton was wanting to correct that original mistake, not making the original mistake.

Many such mistakes have been made as a result of that original mistake, and they played a big role in shaping many of the most serious challenges the world has faced for the last 75 years, and will likely continue to cause global challenges for centuries to come.

and today we learned that the air parade, which was canceled due to bad weather, was actually canceled because of sabotage at the air base (Perm).

Between Ukraine, a pissed of Russian intelligence Agency, pissed off Russian military members and pissed off Russian oligarchs....

a reply to: Xcathdra


I watched a lot of the parade livestreamed on “The Russian dude” YouTube channel.
Great insight, and translation.
He mentioned many times during the show that “something” wasn’t right. And that it was very small compared to other years , which makes sense.

Myself had Anwars Theme by Buck Dharma, playing in the background.

a reply to: spacedoubt

Russia's scaled-down Victory Day parade puts focus on military's significant losses in Ukraine, reports say

Russia has scaled down its May 9 Victory Day military parade by almost 35%, according to Forbes.

The annual parade through Red Square, which marks the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany in 1945, is usually a showpiece of Russian military power.

But Forbes reported that this year's slimmed-down affair, due to take place on Monday, will more likely highlight the country's military weakness in Ukraine.

There will be only 129 military vehicles and 10,000 personnel, compared to about 191 military vehicles and about 12,000 military personnel in 2021, according to information published by Russia's Defense Ministry, per The Moscow Times.

click link for article

a reply to: Xcathdra

i found out why they didn't have a fly by, the gps kept on saying reloading, and the pilots didn't know where in the hell they were.

Wrecked Russian fighter jets are being found with rudimentary GPS receivers "taped to the dashboards" in Ukraine because their inbuilt navigation systems are so bad, the UK's defense secretary, Ben Wallace, said.

Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' UK defense minister says

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Ha Ha!

"In 100 m, turn left....."

'"Drop bomb on school".

OK so it probably works but not as well as a REAL drone.

Somehow I believe this is Genuine and the Orlon really is this bad.

They do have some good stuff but it is not anywhere near as good as in the west or even in China.

One reason we in the west should be concerned is that this may lead to conflict with China OR China may choose to increase over time there influence within Russia and in the end take it over that way, it has everything they want and NEED except of course those pesky non Chinese future ethnic minority Russians whom can then expect no better treatment than any other Chinese ethnic minority or for that matter the Tibetan's.

Meanwhile China is pondering whether to use the distraction to invade Taiwan OR to wait and see if the opportunity arises to give it a killer move to take over Russia.

In a prophecy not that long ago a Christian mystic said that there WOULD be a limited nuclear war and much of Europe would be destroyed but Russia would end up fighting an invading Chinese army and the Chinese would be doing so many bad things to the Russians that eventually despite anger from Germany still being hot toward the Russians at this time the world would eventually end up aiding the Russians against China but that Russia like Europe would be pretty much wrecked and so too by that point would China, the US would mostly come out of it unscathed except for a few city's and Poland would become the new capital of Europe and much of the former Russian territory.

originally posted by: LABTECH767

OK so it probably works but not as well as a REAL drone.

You are a strange person. You are trying to expose "secret facts" that can be read even in Russian Wikipedia - ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10

Civilian components are widely used for Orlan-10, which made it possible to drastically reduce its cost and produce more than 1000-1500 copies. The production of Orlan-10 is 200-300 copies annually.

Orlan-10 uses civilian imported components that have sharply fallen in price in recent years. In addition to the low price, they are also not regulated by the legislation on the circulation of military technologies like ITAR. All electronics and engines of the Orlan-10 are imported components, but the UAV designers made a "decoupling from suppliers", i.e. no imported part is critical and can be replaced with an analogue. For this reason, the study of the downed Orlan-10 each time demonstrates new configurations of microcircuits, optics and even engines.

Domestic in Orlan-10 is a rather complex software, taking into account a large number of options for Orlan-10 equipment with various equipment, as well as a huge number of options for imported components. Moreover, for many components, like the engine, the diagnostic mode of serviceability is maintained right in flight using special sensors. In addition, the drone software supports a rather complex orthomosaic mode glued from individual images. Russian-made is also Orlan-10 composite wings made of carbon fiber, which provides them with radio transparency. This stealth technology is "know-how" because It is usually difficult to use composite wings on UAVs due to the problem of icing and the complexity of mounting the anti-icing protection of the wing. For low-flying UAVs, this problem is critical, so Orlan-10 analogues are quite rare in the world. The fact is that when precipitation hits the wings of the UAV at a negative temperature, they instantly freeze, lose lift and stall the UAV. Heating even metal wings is not effective enough in case of direct precipitation, in addition, the UAV, by heating the wings, unmasks itself in the infrared range. Orlan-10 does not use a heated metal wing, but a special polymer foil on composite radio-transparent wings. In case of icing, the film separates from the wing along with the ice crust.

a reply to: turretless


Is russia currently able to import any of those orlan parts?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Once again for strange people:

In addition to the low price, they are also not regulated by the legislation on the circulation of military technologies like ITAR.

This means that these devices are freely available worldwide.

If they are not sold to Russia, then India, Argentina, Thailand (or any other country) will buy them and then sell them to Russia.

a reply to: turretless
I am coming at it from a western perspective.

Now the military in my country even sometimes still have electronics based around ancient 74 series chips (hardened VLSI microchips that are pretty much immune to emp but are like 40 year old technology) and old 386 based systems as well, not because they are cheapskates but because if something work's then it work's (And you can hit some of these with a sledge hammer and they will keep on working though they also have modern high tech stuff that will probably fry in an EMP as well so?) so I get that and understand it.

But in our modern high tech world it is still jarring to see a superpowers modern weapons using such low technology components (not that the EOS series of cameras are low tech they are actually among the best civilian cameras in there price range).

But in hindsight I think if we looked at some of the gear that almost every army has some of it is pretty ancient but NOT redundant, battlefield laptop's for instance are built to be rugged not super high tech just high tech enough to get the job done.

Still it does seem ludicrous to see this as a military aircraft but hey if it works and yes if it keep's costs down then fine I suppose, shame it is being used in this manner though.

But sometimes you don't need high tech you just need to swarm an object, on the other side of the pond (and likely stolen and also being developed by the Chinese) Swarm drones are the next big thing for everything from attack to defence and with them getting ever smaller they may someday even replace the gun, a solder throws up a handful of tiny but deadly hunter killer swarm drones that seek out enemy unit's, can clear buildings and open areas alike OR an aircraft releases them like intelligent chaff and they actually intercept the incoming missiles.

In the face of this drive to create ever more deadly and advanced drone technology (I believe it is dangerous to take the life and death decision out of a human beings hands - if that human being is sane that is because a machine has no empathy and can not show mercy and can make mistakes as it is as flawed as it's creator) to see someone, a world power or former world power anyway make use of such simplistic devices is odd to our view but actually when considered if it work's then it makes sense but let's be fair it is hardly what you would call quality craftsmanship.

originally posted by: turretless
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Once again for strange people:

In addition to the low price, they are also not regulated by the legislation on the circulation of military technologies like ITAR.

This means that these devices are freely available worldwide.

If they are not sold to Russia, then India, Argentina, Thailand (or any other country) will buy them and then sell them to Russia.

Yes, everyone knows russia will try to find ways around sanctions, and that we will prevent as much of it as possible.

It's one of the many reasons that russian planes and ships are no longer allowed in so many countries, their russian government owners had been involved in russian smuggling for the past 8 years.

Russia has to find another way now.



Perhaps you should watch a little of your own russian 'news' talk shows, those famous putin puppets are complaining every day about the shortages caused from lack of these simple foreign components, and have been arguing that russia needs to go back to a soviet style government so that russian slave labor can produce those components inside of russia.