Prince Andrew Fails to Get Law Suit Dismissed

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Just been striped of most of his titles by the looks of things by the Queen.

Bet he's sweating a fair bit now!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

He will be needing a national insurance number next.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

He will be needing a national insurance number next.

Is Mr Andrew Albert Christian Edward Windsor known to HMRC?



Computer says "no".

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
So, he's being sued in the US over allegations of sex trafficking whatnot linked to Epstein And Ghastly Ghislaine scandal.

NY Judge has tossed his application to dismiss.

Where does he go now? No good options:

BBC News - Prince Andrew to face civil sex assault case after US ruling
www.bbc.co.uk...

I hear his military medals of bravery were taken away from him today.

They're just "things". The BRAVE ACTS remain.

a reply to: carewemust

Dont think it matters how brave one has been if your a stoat the ba carewemust.

He should stand trial for his actions regarding sex with underage girls just like any other beast imho.

a reply to: carewemust

I think you are officially losing the plot

its another double post with zero context

what the hell are you talking about?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
So, he's being sued in the US over allegations of sex trafficking whatnot linked to Epstein And Ghastly Ghislaine scandal.

NY Judge has tossed his application to dismiss.

Where does he go now? No good options:

BBC News - Prince Andrew to face civil sex assault case after US ruling
www.bbc.co.uk...

I hear his military medals of bravery were taken away from him today.

They're just "things". The BRAVE ACTS remain.

Care to share these acts of "Bravery"?.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The only things I want to know are:
will he take one for the team?
will he throw the rest under the bus too?
will he kill himself like epstien didn't?

I have a hard time accepting a high profile target like this going down without an arm flailing "They did it too" last gasp defense.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Its a civil law case Vroomfondel the only thing its going to cost him in the long run is cash monies.

If he ever were to be prosecuted in a criminal court of law i suppose it not beyond the realm of possibility that he may have an accident along similar lines to Princess Diana.

a reply to: andy06shake

I understand that this is just a civil suit. However, he will be forced to defend himself against the same allegations that would be made in a criminal case. This civil suit may well be the proving grounds for future criminal cases for a number of high profile figures.

If a morlok can win over an eloi in a civil suit, anything is possible...

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
However, he will be forced to defend himself against the same allegations that would be made in a criminal case.

He could opt to no-show and get a default judgement against him.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Major difference between civil and criminal law cases is the burden of proof.

And the fact of the matter seems to be the evidence dont seem to be up to much cop in some regards.

Then there is the fact that Prince Pedo is apt to have the best defence lawyers money can buy.

Not that i don't share your sentiments Vroomfondel, i hope he's prosecuted to the full extent of the law and they crucify him in any court he happens to land.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
However, he will be forced to defend himself against the same allegations that would be made in a criminal case.

He could opt to no-show and get a default judgement against him.

He could, but that would all but guarantee more suits going forward. Which, in turn, could still lead to criminal charges. If people are just settling without even defending themselves, it starts to look like the charges are all correct.

a reply to: andy06shake

The burden of proof is different. But, if its put in front of a jury, that jury is still basically deciding if he is innocent or guilty, then awarding compensation instead of jail time based on severity. The question is, would the same jury hearing the same evidence or testimony find him guilty in one venue and innocent in the other? First-hand testimony from the victim will most definitely be allowed where some other forms of evidence may not.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
He could, but that would all but guarantee more suits going forward.

I would wager everything I have that he is not coming to the US to testify. He will either settle out of court (despite the plaintiff stating at this time they won't) or end up with a default.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
The burden of proof is different.

Could you explain that?

Thanks in advance.

Civil cases, all down to balance of probabilities.

If certain info comes out in a civil case, could it trigger criminal proceedings?

In a global, digital world, why would any party have to appear in person? Video link, digital meeting space and all that.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Like others suggest through Vroomfondel the chances of him turning up in person to give evidence in a US court is pretty much slim and none.

Its not like extradition is on the cards where civil law suits are concerned.

originally posted by: ArMaP
Could you explain that?

Thanks in advance.

In the United States a criminal case must be proved 'beyond a reasonable doubt' while civil cases use 'preponderance of evidence' which is a lower threshold.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Thanks, I didn't know that.