Secretly Recorded - Pharma Officials Gravely Concerned About Covid-19 Vaccines LT Dangers.

a reply to: incoserv

This post contributes nothing to the thread.

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: shaemac

OMG. STOPPPPPPPPPPPP. I have never seen such level of either ignorance or purposeful trolling or.....gaslighting.
Oh wait. Yes, I have. The entire Biden administration.

lol, can you prove otherwise?

Fear mongering?

Prove what otherwise?
No. Fearmongering is this: GET THIS INJECTION OR YOU AND EVERYONE WILL DIE OF A VIRUS WITH 99.8-9% SURVIVIAL RATE........

^^^^^THAT is fearmongering.

but we wont mandate you to change your lifestyle habits that is what will actually kill you. We wont mandate you get your fat ass off the couch and exercise and eat right and stop smoking and drinking etc etc etc.

Please prove that there will long term negative side effects of the vaccine. Your opinion is the minority when compared to the wider scientific/medical community, so thus you are required to provide evidence.

a reply to: MDDoxs

Yes, all those that have their pockets full with pharma billions in profits yep money talks and bull crap walks,

The American way, trust us those that are making money of you.

After all they can no be sue for anything they do.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: MDDoxs

Yes, all those that have their pockets full with pharma billions in profits yep money talks and bull crap walks,

The American way, trust us those that are making money of you.

After all they can no be sue for anything they do.

Hello Marg, thank you for the comment.

I agree, we should be wary of the motivations of people that are making money off a particular situation. That being said, we are not solely relying on the opinions of these individuals/companies, rather we also have the wider scientific/medical community involved...globally. The global majority has set the standard.

Now, to use your example, I would argue that there are also individuals looking to profit off this pandemic that are against vaccines and would rather peddle alternative medicine solutions to making their profit. Would agree that this also happens?

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: shaemac

OMG. STOPPPPPPPPPPPP. I have never seen such level of either ignorance or purposeful trolling or.....gaslighting.
Oh wait. Yes, I have. The entire Biden administration.

lol, can you prove otherwise?

Fear mongering?

without a time machine? nope. Just like he can't prove what he said. The only way to know if the vaccines have any long term effects, is for time to pass and for "mystery illnesses" to infect the vaxxed, and not the unvaxxed. (if there are any of us left to be used as data points)

a reply to: MDDoxs

The consensus of the majority in the scientific/medical community

...matters not one thin bit.

Science is not a democracy! Why can people not get that? At one time, the "scientific consensus" was that the Earth was flat! Was it flat? No... it didn't suddenly one day blow up like a balloon to go from being flat to round because enough scientists agreed it was round to form a "consensus." It was always round! Even when the "scientific consensus" said it wasn't!

I'm not trying to be mean here, but seriously... that idea that science is a democracy is a certain indicator that nothing whatsoever that follows is worth replying to.

Feel free to try again.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: shaemac

OMG. STOPPPPPPPPPPPP. I have never seen such level of either ignorance or purposeful trolling or.....gaslighting.
Oh wait. Yes, I have. The entire Biden administration.

lol, can you prove otherwise?

Fear mongering?

Prove what otherwise?
No. Fearmongering is this: GET THIS INJECTION OR YOU AND EVERYONE WILL DIE OF A VIRUS WITH 99.8-9% SURVIVIAL RATE........

^^^^^THAT is fearmongering.

but we wont mandate you to change your lifestyle habits that is what will actually kill you. We wont mandate you get your fat ass off the couch and exercise and eat right and stop smoking and drinking etc etc etc.

Please prove that there will long term negative side effects of the vaccine. Your opinion is the minority when compared to the wider scientific/medical community, so thus you are required to provide evidence.

LMAO
Do you not understand the term "long term side effect"??? This EXPERIMENTAL injection is not even 2 years old. NOBODY knows what will happen long term yet. In 20-30-50 years, THEN we may know.


My opinion is not in the minority.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

This might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen

a reply to: MDDoxs

Umm, almost three quarter of a million, that is 750K if you cant do math, have died in the US from C19. Thats the population of a decent sized city...dead. These deaths are also ontop of everything else killing the average American.

That is an old statistic from July of 2020, nice job realizing that!

Super brain over here!

The point of the meme for me and why I shared it, is the % of survival rate.

Let me help you with some math.

43,615,631 is the current number of cases in America
700,924 deaths
1.6% or 98.4% recovery.

232,426,039 case worldwide
4,758,486 deaths
2% or 98% recovery

Perhaps we should be using Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Azythromicin, Zinc, Vitamin D&C and other proven therapeutics to help the vulnerable who never should have died in the first place.

Also I wonder what percentage of those deaths happened because of the regimen received at the hospital?

Ventilators are like shoving a pillow over a patients head and is the standard form of treatment.

Western medicine does its best to stay in the top three causes of death each year.

Thanks again Captain Obvious

lulz

a reply to: network dude

That's the reason for soo much push for untested vaccines, if everybody have the same symptoms then pharma can get away and keep banking their profits.

I will never get the crap, never, I can not get a nagging feeling about that crap.

Still I am no officially the only unvaxed in my family, not because they did it voluntarily but because they were forced or lose their jobs, including my husband.

I will be the one to be compared too and gladly too.

a reply to: elementalgrove

When the covid started, more people were killed by ventilators and still been killed by them, even my daughter tells me that no many will come out of a ventilators alive if they have been on them for more than a week.

Intubation was the standard of treatment when covid started.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: elementalgrove

When the covid started, more people were killed by ventilators and still been killed by them, even my daughter tells me that no many will come out of a ventilators alive if they have been on them for more than a week.

Intubation was the standard of treatment when covid started.

It still is a standard, they have no treatment for covid, they act like all you can do it get the vaccine otherwise you have to come into the hospital with late stage symptoms and they finish the job for you and get paid for another covid death.

Evil SOB's

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
All that your doing here is looking for reason to avoid getting a shot

No one needs a reason to avoid a shot... either you decide to take it, or you decide not to take it.

Simple - except for those who believe they have some kind of right to force others to stick needles in their arms against their will.

and are grasping at straws.

Amazing how even direct evidence is not just ignored but declared 'grasping at straws' by closet fascists.

Fear of the unknown is just desperation.

Depends... define 'unknown'.

The liberal media has filled your head with fear.

You got that backwards friend. You are the one who allowed the MSM to fill your heart and head with so much fear of a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate (99.7 for those at most risk) that you decided to inject yourself with something that could have devastating, long term consequences.

The truth is that the technology in the vax isn't new. It's a decade old,

Yes, it is, and the only major tests that were done resulted in all of the test animals dying when exposed to the virus in the wild.

and the long term effects are well known.

By all means - elucidate. Show the long term animal safety studies. Please.

But you can't because they don't exist.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Big pharma is... Well... Its big.

Yes. .. and every single big pharma company has a long and sordid history of lying to the public, via falsification of research and safety studies - as well as a long and sordid history of having to pull drugs off the market and pay out huge fines (but nowhere near what they should have been forced to pay to those they murdered and/or permanently damaged) after the massive side effects could no longer be ignored.

originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: shaemac

OMG. STOPPPPPPPPPPPP. I have never seen such level of either ignorance or purposeful trolling or.....gaslighting.
Oh wait. Yes, I have. The entire Biden administration.

lol, can you prove otherwise?

Fear mongering?

Prove what otherwise?
No. Fearmongering is this: GET THIS INJECTION OR YOU AND EVERYONE WILL DIE OF A VIRUS WITH 99.8-9% SURVIVIAL RATE........

^^^^^THAT is fearmongering.

but we wont mandate you to change your lifestyle habits that is what will actually kill you. We wont mandate you get your fat ass off the couch and exercise and eat right and stop smoking and drinking etc etc etc.

Please prove that there will long term negative side effects of the vaccine. Your opinion is the minority when compared to the wider scientific/medical community, so thus you are required to provide evidence.

Proof will be here soon enough. Today we should listen to the whistleblowers, provided we care in the least.

www.greenmedinfo.com...

a reply to: AaarghZombies

You forget your six month boostershots. That btw took a big blow not so long ago. Probably there are no longterm safety concerns. Hopefully. My whole family is vaccinaed with mnra ... but I hope Valneva or giant Sanofi will come with a vaccine platform that is about a hundred times more tested on humans. I don't feel comfortable with wat is going on with mrna vaccines. Biontech is apparently starting to tumble on the stock market. Though I pray to God that mrna will be the beginning of a new era for eliminating lethal illnesses ... my gut feeling could be better. I'm not a visionair but the big picture including massive censorship, supply shortages, chaos in the Uk, that strange bitcoin (which I don't understand), the banking system I don't trust anymore (not only me), interests that are much lower than inflation, Chinese economy without power supply ... you name it ... but don't forget a world without real leaders ...
I once made a site. It's in Dutch (but also a lot in English). And I admit: it is not the best place here to make you click on it. But did you ever hear of the Georgia guidestones? I bet many of you did. www.evawaseerst.be...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
It's very short. In fact it's empty, because it has no long term side effects.

Or... it's empty because no long term animal safety studies have been done.

How do you propose I prove that something does not exist, isn't the fact that it's not there proof enough?

They are called randomized placebo controlled interventional studies.

The fact that you would ask such a question automatically and absolutely precludes you from speaking on this subject further with anything other than 'I feelz' type commentary.

Here are all of the long term side effects from drinking a single glass of clean water... Did you see it?

Show me one single long term side effect from ANY component of the vax, ever, in any product or experiment.

I can't prove a negative,

No one can, but you can do the required long term animal safety trials, and do everything possible to see if there are any.

can you prove harm?

Yes. Go read VAERS - unless of course you are saying that every single report contained in VAERS is a lie, in which case your TDS is just too strong, and the only thing that comes to mind is that thing Mr. T used to say:

I was senior sys admin at Shire Pharma for about a year. I worked in the actual plant where they made adderall. Most of the people I worked with were all about money, they would make jokes about making meth for kids. Fully aware of the realities, but it was funny to them. I actually did call the cops on one of the marketing guys after finding kiddie porn on his work laptop. So yes, there are pedophiles in that industry. No flat earthers that i'm aware of though.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Please post a link to the long term effects then.

I would like to see a link showing how many big pharma employees are flat earthers.
The member said that too.

You want me to dox them?

I do believe he wants you to put up or STFU because, as it stands right now, I've read one full page of you talking out of your ass absent any degree of backup evidence whatsoever and I can only assume others are just as amused and unimpressed by your contributions as I have been.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: carewemust

So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal. Some of them are flat earthers too, there are even some pedophiles in big pharma. They're not that hard to find.

It's like rocket scientists who believe in flying saucers, biologists who are also creationists, or computer programmers who think Alexa isn't spying on them. Smart people can be wrong some times.

In situations like this the majority is usually right. When 99.99 percent of scientists say the shot is safe then it probably is, and that 0.01 percent is just a lunatic fringe that goes squatching at the weekend

Or are you, and those who went full tilt toward the vax, feeling you must justify your choices til the end?

These doctors and scientists coming forward or being caught on camera are just the tip of the iceberg when so much censorship is in place.

Do you feel comfortable with the vax if that 99.99% who are saying its safe contains an unknown number who are afraid to speak out? Or have spoken out only to have their social media accounts shut down? We don't know the number that are speaking against it. That in itself is a problem.

Nobody is wrong for having gotten the vax but neither are those who chose to wait and see.