Experts warned for months: Vaccines could cause more dangerous COVID variants

PCR tests have not been discredited by the CDC.

Delta variant is detected by sequencing just like any other varient.

I think you may need to take a look at the sources you use and maybe come up with a better strategy for your research.



a reply to: Zanti Misfit

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Completely false. The CDC has not discredited anything. Stop watching bitchute and you'd be more informed.

a reply to: nonspecific
A PCR test can only tell if you are positive for Covid.
Further testing is required to see which variant it is.

Earlier this week, MaineHealth reported that additional testing on 49 positive COVID-19 samples from patients found that 18 were the delta variant.

MaineHealth Chief Health Improvement Officer Dr. Dora Anne Mills said the additional testing is expensive and was done for epidemiological purposes. She said the samples will undergo further genomic testing.

www.wmtw.com...

If you have a link that says other.......please post.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

The variant is detected, just not differentiated from other types of covid. The PCR test is doing what it's supposed to, telling if a person has covid or not.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Variant detected after additional testing.

If not please supply a link.

Why?

PCR tests for covid 19.

Random samples are then sent for sequencing to determine the percentage of different varients.

Why is this some kind of victory for you?



a reply to: Itisnowagain

a reply to: nonspecific
Just clarifying that further testing is required to determine variant.

If only random samples are sent off for further testing then there is no way that it can be known how many have which variant.

Of course you can't but with a decent sample you have a very probable idea.

If 20,000 random tests from across the spectrum go off to be sequenced and 19000 come back as delta then that's pretty convincing.

What benefit would sequencing every single test give us?


a reply to: Itisnowagain

a reply to: nonspecific
I have said my piece.

It now appears as if you looking to win something

It's not about winning anything

I just don't see how knowing the exact number of any given varient would be beneficial.

Sample testing and comparison against all other nations sample testing would give enough reliable data for any future courses of action unless I've missed something, that's why I asked



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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain arose in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public.

And covid started in a wet market and NOT in a lab...who knows the truth. It's whatever one wants to believe at this point. Run for your lives!

They can't even catch it due to different ACE2 receptors).

Covid can be transmitted by putting a pen in your mouth that somebody with covid has already chewed. If it can survive on a biro it sure can survive on a bat.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets


Experts warned for months vaccines could cause more dangerous COVID variants.

Weren't the people who said that holistic practitioners or something similar, rather than actual experts?

a reply to: AaarghZombies
Here read this:
Vaccines Are Pushing Pathogens to Evolve | Quanta Magazine
www.quantamagazine.org...

I have posted information for you about this already.

"If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines, then we really don’t understand natural selection."
Paul Ewald

Here is a wiki link for Paul Ewald.
Paul W. Ewald - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: nonspecific
A PCR test can only tell if you are positive for Covid.
Further testing is required to see which variant it is.

Earlier this week, MaineHealth reported that additional testing on 49 positive COVID-19 samples from patients found that 18 were the delta variant.

MaineHealth Chief Health Improvement Officer Dr. Dora Anne Mills said the additional testing is expensive and was done for epidemiological purposes. She said the samples will undergo further genomic testing.

www.wmtw.com...

If you have a link that says other.......please post.

Right. They are doing that further testing (genome sequencing) on the majority of positive tests.

No, COVID-19 Vaccines Do Not Cause New Coronavirus Variants

Dubious claims that vaccines are causing new variants of the novel coronavirus are spreading on social media.

These false reports have increased after French virologist Luc Montagnier was reported to have made the same claim in an interview.

However, scientific evidence shows the opposite is true.

Medical experts say virus mutations occur randomly and independently of vaccination.

In addition, vaccines can play a role in squashing the variants.

a reply to: GravitySucks
If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines, then we really don’t understand natural selection.

Paul Ewald

Are you suggesting that the virus will mutate differently when infecting someone who has had a vaccination than someone who has natural and immunity?


a reply to: Itisnowagain

a reply to: nonspecific
Not mutate differently but vax causes the hotter strains to live because the host would have died.
If the host is staying alive it can carry on carrying around the hot virus.

Did you read about Marek disease.....and the vaccine?
Could some vaccines make diseases more deadly? | Science | AAAS
www.sciencemag.org...

As Read first argued in a Nature paper 14 years ago, by keeping their hosts alive, such "imperfect" or "leaky" vaccines could give deadlier pathogens an edge, allowing them to spread when they would normally burn out quickly.

Over the past few decades, Marek's disease has become much more virulent—which some researchers believe is the result of vaccination.

I have several hundred chickens so I'm more than aware of mareks and how it works.

So we let the old folk die in case they live to pass on a mutant strain then?

Nice way to live your life


a reply to: Itisnowagain