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originally posted by: fencesitter85
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: fencesitter85
Jesus wept, another moronic front page thread from people who think land votes.
You lost. Get over it.
Just for the record, you're proud of the Biden win, correct?
Biden is an awful candidate. But he's better than Trump. He can hopefully start repairing the destruction caused by Trump, and begin bringing down the incredible amount of debt Trump has added in such a short time.
originally posted by: macaronicaesar
They want him gone so bad that despite the vote flipping he still had the largest gains from an incumbent ever, sure thing. You want him gone, 80 million did not vote for Biden, not even close. The truth will set you free.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Annee
What it shows is how much people want to be rid of Trump.
That’s it.
No it doesn't.
A week long election proves how much of a lie that is.
Your fantasy.
Trump lost because more people voted against him than for him.
They want him gone.
originally posted by: sprockets2000
a reply to: Gryphon66
How so because he doesn’t lift his pinkie when he drinks wine? People say things like what you said when they have nothing of actual substance to add
originally posted by: sprockets2000
a reply to: Annee
. . . at least Trump only answers to the people which is why they hated him so badly he can veto a bill like this cause he doesn’t owe anything to anyone on the down low
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Gryphon66
Trump has weakened our decades old relationships with our allies, with NATO and with the European Union
No! He asked them to “ pay their fair share” instead of taking advantage of us. I feel sorry for people who don’t understand that.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter
Sure, here you go:
The Wisconsin Supreme Court said Monday that it is up to each individual voter to determine for themselves whether they are “indefinitely confined” and therefore able to request and submit an absentee ballot without showing photo identification.
WUWM Milwaukee 12/14/20
Oh look, you're misrepresenting the situation in Wisconsin. What a shock. There is no abuse of any Wisconsin law.
That's the election right there? Wisconsin has 10 Electoral votes. Give them to Trump ... Biden still wins.
But you're lying about the outcome ... so Trump doesn't even get those votes.
You're so desperate to undo the will of Americans to put your guy in power. Well, sorry, the Constitution is still in place.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter
Your claim is that the Wisconsin Supreme Court required that unsigned absentee ballots that were submitted should be counted?
No. Two counties stated that any elector (voter) could claim "indefinitely confined" status because of the Governor's stay-at-home order and were in turn required by the Court to clarify that was not the case, however, they did rule that the individual elector is the one who makes that determination..
Here's a link the Wisconsin SC's order.
Read it for yourself.
I have informed Dane County Municipal Clerks that during
this emergency and based on the Governors Stay at Home
order I am declaring all Dane County voters may indicate
as needed that they are indefinitely confined due to
illness. This declaration will make it easier for Dane
County voters to participate in this election by mail in
these difficult times. I urge all voters who request a
ballot and have trouble presenting a[] valid ID to
indicate that they are indefinitely confined.
People are reluctant to check the box that says they are
indefinitely confined but this is a pandemic. This
feature in our law is here to help preserve everyone's
right to vote.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter
Can you show us where the Wisconsin Supreme Court approved the certification of unsigned absentee ballots?
That's your claim but that's not what your quote shows us.
The statement doesn't say you can send in your ballot unsigned. It says you can decide if you are indefinitely confined.
The Wisconsin SC agreed.
There's nothing hard to understand here. You either don't understand or you're misrepresenting the matter.
In the 2016 presidential election only about 7 percent of absentee ballots were from indefinitely confined voters but since then, there's been a big jump.
In April, more than 160,000 voters were indefinitely confined, 14 percent. For the November 2020 General Election, 215,333 absentee ballots were returned by voters who certified they were indefinitely confined, 11 percent, according to WEC.
Republican lawmakers are now debating making changes to this law because they claim, without evidence, voters may have bypassed state law requiring proof of an ID to cast a ballot.