This makes no logical sense, somebody fixed this for Biden.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Annee
What it shows is how much people want to be rid of Trump.

That’s it.

Except they don't.

Despite the news coverage, Trump had a near 50% approval rating around the election. That was higher than ...anyone in a long time.

Also, Trump GAINED Black and Latino votes in all other major cities except the stolen swing states.

It's all a lie and I'm done with it.

Sorry, 80 million certified votes for Biden say the exact opposite.

And as far as polling goes? Trump barely rose above 45% for the whole four years.

Certified garbage!

That certification is bogus and you know it.

originally posted by: Never Despise
So much of the talk about this election has been speculative. "I just feel it in my bones that it had to be)couldn't have been such-and-such."

Well we can't trust our feelings, we can't trust the media and it seems we can't trust the numbers either. We have to admit the limits of our blindness.

Was there hanky-panky with the voting? In my opinion there is in every modern election and probably the old ones too. It's pretty much accepted by history that the elections of 1870 and 1874 were rigged. There is evidence that even St. Kennedy (who I personally admire) was being naughty in the election of 1960. As a Nixon confidante allegedly said at the time, "they stole it fair and square." Quite probably we've never lived in a non-crooked nation. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but like that guy's signature line reads, "deal with it."

I would have preferred Trump even though I think he is deeply flawed. But I approved of his mission. It didn't work out. I have moved on and I advise everyone else to do so too.

Its not a matter of people claiming that they "feel it in their bones" but rather the hundreds of sworn affidavits describing instances of fraud, the known instances where votes were altered by the machines, machines weighing the votes differently, people pulling hidden ballots out from underneath a covered table, voters laws being deliberately broken, etc. all in favor of one specific candidate--every single time. Top it off with the historic number of statistical improbabilities involved, and this goes beyond feelings. I's wager that people have been convicted of fraud on less evidence than this. There is no "moving on" from this. This is evidence that the system is broken. It isn't going to fix itself, particularly when the people breaking can keep doing so right in front of everyone and get away with it.

originally posted by: Annee
What it shows is how much people want to be rid of Trump.

That’s it.

In geometrically fewer regions of the country?

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: Annee

A "pandemic" which was planned and executed to take
out Trump because orange man bad.

Cracking a nut with a sledgehammer!

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Annee
What it shows is how much people want to be rid of Trump.

That’s it.

Except they don't.

Despite the news coverage, Trump had a near 50% approval rating around the election. That was higher than ...anyone in a long time.

Also, Trump GAINED Black and Latino votes in all other major cities except the stolen swing states.

It's all a lie and I'm done with it.

Sorry, 80 million certified votes for Biden say the exact opposite.

And as far as polling goes? Trump barely rose above 45% for the whole four years.

Certified garbage!

That certification is bogus and you know it.

So, I should believe you instead of fifty State Governors?

Nah.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Do those regions have anything in common?

Like say, most of the US population?

You know, the folks who vote?

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And an even more unpopular incumbent president.

And yet he received 10 million more votes than the first time around when he was running against Hilary?

By the way, when "gaming the system" is in the form of massive, systematic voter fraud, citing the popular vote doesn't prove anything.

originally posted by: timequake
Top it off with the historic number of statistical improbabilities involved, and this goes beyond feelings.

There is no statistical case. Which leaves feelings.

I’ve read a lot of comments in this thread and others that land doesn’t vote or variations of it.

Here’s how I see it.

The USA is made up of States. These States contribute in different ways to the Union as a whole.

Some States have large populations and some have small. Areas in those individual States have different populations.

The less populated areas have most of the land and resources, some is owned by large corporations from the cities but most is owned by the small populations that live there.

They feed the country, process it’s resources, pay taxes on the land, work the land, and so on. Yet they get little say on who will be President, how many taxes they will pay, how many trees they can harvest from their land, how much milk they can sell, etc.

This is why I believe the Electoral College is important but a bit outdated due to the size of concentrated populations in the cities. I don’t believe the Founders would, or could, have imagined their size!

The people with an experience of the land, what it can produce, how it will best contribute to the National GDP, and feed Americans need to be heard and respected again.

I don’t believe America can survive without them and should remember that they aren’t a bunch of uneducated hicks living in cabins. They are the lifeblood of your Nation and they deserve to be heard.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Annee
What it shows is how much people want to be rid of Trump.

That’s it.

but only in 477 counties. Apparently the rest of America wanted Trump. LOL.

This is your Electoral College at work. Don't you like the Electoral College any more?

The issue isn't the Electoral College. Pretty sure this has to do with the massive and systematic voter fraud that screwed the vote tallies. Please keep up.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Do those regions have anything in common?

Like say, most of the US population?

You know, the folks who vote?

Last I checked, voter turnout during presidential elections trends around 60-70%

In these specific regions* the voter turnout had to be 80-90% in Democrat-heavy areas, yet in other Democrat-heavy areas across the country they stayed at 60-70%. And in previous presidential election cycles, these regions were 60-70% turnout.

*EDIT: the regions the 4-5 states that shifted from Trump to Biden over the course of a week, that is.

So why don't *you* tell *me* what they have in common. I'm still scratching my head over the anomalies. My guess is they have the most lax absentee/mail-in ballot signature/validation procedures and heaviest ballot harvesting operations.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: timequake
Top it off with the historic number of statistical improbabilities involved, and this goes beyond feelings.

There is no statistical case. Which leaves feelings.

Well actually there are... and its cute that you left out that fact that the machines are actually switching votes. That is the opposite of "feelings".

originally posted by: Tempter


Despite the news coverage, Trump had a near 50% approval rating around the election. That was higher than ...anyone in a long time.

Winston Churchill had an approval rating of over 80% at the time of the May 1945 General Election.

He lost by a landslide - while Britain was still at war.

Sh!t happens.

Jesus wept, another moronic front page thread from people who think land votes.

You lost. Get over it.

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Jesus wept, another moronic front page thread from people who think land votes.

You lost. Get over it.

Just for the record, you're proud of the Biden win, correct?

a reply to: fencesitter85

What happens if all that useless land stops shipping it’s products to the cities?

It would balance the population inside and outside the cities in a month to six weeks.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Jesus wept, another moronic front page thread from people who think land votes.

You lost. Get over it.

Just for the record, you're proud of the Biden win, correct?

Biden is an awful candidate. But he's better than Trump. He can hopefully start repairing the destruction caused by Trump, and begin bringing down the incredible amount of debt Trump has added in such a short time.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Recent Presidential elections have trended closer to 55- 60% turnout. Because voting was made more accessible in this election due to the pandemic, it looks as though this one will come in above 60%, which would be one of the highest in history.

The vote totals shifted from Trump to Biden as the absentee votes were counted on Election night.

Trump, you may remember, discouraged his followers from voting by mail.

If you have a link to the data analysis you're summarizing, I'll be glad to look at it. Aside from that, all due respect, it's your claim to prove.

No, I don't have anything further to tell you (asterisk as needed.) The claim here is that Biden wouldn't have enough votes in 503 counties to win the election even when most of the counties Biden won are densely populated, and most of the 2000 counties or so that Trump won are rural and in many cases, basically unpopulated.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist ... but please, show us some evidence to sustain your claims. Because, alhtough your post is slighly more erudite than some here, there's really only your claims backing up your claims.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: fencesitter85

What happens if all that useless land stops shipping it’s products to the cities?

It would balance the population inside and outside the cities in a month to six weeks.

I'm not debating hypothetical scenarios. It's irrelevant to this discussion.

originally posted by: fencesitter85

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Jesus wept, another moronic front page thread from people who think land votes.

You lost. Get over it.

Just for the record, you're proud of the Biden win, correct?

Biden is an awful candidate. But he's better than Trump. He can hopefully start repairing the destruction caused by Trump, and begin bringing down the incredible amount of debt Trump has added in such a short time.

What destruction was caused by Trump?