Trump Vs Biden Predictions

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: MykeNukem

Trump will legitimately win, but the Dems will cheat and keep counting votes until he loses...

that to me opens up a whole new can of worms thats probably slightly off topic but I would have a few questions.

Firstly why you believe that and what sources are backing up your opinion?

Secondly voter fraud is very rare so what makes you think its going to happen in 2020?

Voter fraud in America is rare to you because of your news sources.

I believe it is happening because the DNC has already war gamed it out.

Which is why Hillary told Biden publicly to never concede.

Which is why Biden has well over 600 lawyers already deployed.

Which is why mail in ballots are now the norm (thanks Pelosi).

Face it, the DNC has made several swing districts a mirror of Broward Country in Florida.

You know, the epicenter of voter fraud in America.

They are already pointing out that Trump will win originally, but counting all the mail in ballots will give Biden the win.

And possibly make Pelosi the acting President for a time...

The fix is already in.

Which personally I am just fine with because a Biden win will give American citizens its first real taste of Democratic Socialism.

I think that Progressive voters need to get the President they deserve.

Then try to live with the consequence of that.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
if the data and expert opinion that has underpinned my prediction that Joe Biden will win then so be it.

How can you have any faith in the "data" and "expert opinion" after last election when the polls said Hillary had a 99% chance to win and all the experts were certain Trump would have no chance? I was convinced Trump would win last election, not because I paid attention to the polls and "experts", but because I watched what was actually happening in reality.
Trump beat Hillary, and you think Biden stands a chance? The people who voted for Trump last election are still voting for Trump... But a lot of former Democrat voters are getting real fed up with the Democratic party and voting Trump this election too.
The media isn't reality.

I think many Democrats saw what happened to SF, Seattle, Portland and the BLM / Anitifa coonery and they are secretly voting for Trump.

You really have to look at what you actually see happening not the propaganda being pushed by MSM.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think it will be close but if I had to pick right now I'd pick a Trump win. My reasoning is mainly anecdotal. I play golf twice a week with a group of about 20 guys - all white males between the ages of 40-70 (which is a large voting block). Of those 20 I'd say 1 is openly a Biden supporter, 1 is openly a Trump supporter and the other 18 of us keep our mouths shut. Of those 18, I would bet at least 16 of us will be Trump voters. I think there are loads of people just like our group.

Nobody wants to admit or say out loud that they are voting for Trump - - it's not worth the social backlash. Keep your mouth shut, cast your vote next Tuesday and grab your popcorn.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Anecdotal info?? As a gambler with some serious money on this election anecdotes, don't cut it; And neither does your trump bubble.

Real numbers, statistics from a reliable source or GTFO.

originally posted by: acparker7
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think it will be close but if I had to pick right now I'd pick a Trump win. My reasoning is mainly anecdotal. I play golf twice a week with a group of about 20 guys - all white males between the ages of 40-70 (which is a large voting block). Of those 20 I'd say 1 is openly a Biden supporter, 1 is openly a Trump supporter and the other 18 of us keep our mouths shut. Of those 18, I would bet at least 16 of us will be Trump voters. I think there are loads of people just like our group.

Nobody wants to admit or say out loud that they are voting for Trump - - it's not worth the social backlash. Keep your mouth shut, cast your vote next Tuesday and grab your popcorn.

The same reason why you don't see any Trump signs on my lawn.
I don't want my stuff vandalized. A vocal minority has shown that they will vandalize property and assault people that back Trump.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Ask. I have lots of people who are all over the spectrum as friends. Green Party. Libertarians. Dems. Republicans.

I have had more people who were Democrats tell me they are voting for Trump than friends who still voting for Biden. Long time Democrats who just do not like the future the left is showing which is nothing except I hate Trump.

The majority of people vote on issues not the candidate. They could give two #s as long as taxes are low and jobs are there.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: acparker7
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think it will be close but if I had to pick right now I'd pick a Trump win. My reasoning is mainly anecdotal. I play golf twice a week with a group of about 20 guys - all white males between the ages of 40-70 (which is a large voting block). Of those 20 I'd say 1 is openly a Biden supporter, 1 is openly a Trump supporter and the other 18 of us keep our mouths shut. Of those 18, I would bet at least 16 of us will be Trump voters. I think there are loads of people just like our group.

Nobody wants to admit or say out loud that they are voting for Trump - - it's not worth the social backlash. Keep your mouth shut, cast your vote next Tuesday and grab your popcorn.

The same reason why you don't see any Trump signs on my lawn.
I don't want my stuff vandalized. A vocal minority has shown that they will vandalize property and assault people that back Trump.

It works both ways....

www.baynews9.com...#
www.cbs58.com...
www.parkrecord.com...
pittsburgh.cbslocal.com...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Anecdotal info?? As a gambler with some serious money on this election anecdotes, don't cut it; And neither does your trump bubble.

Real numbers, statistics from a reliable source or GTFO.

Out of curiosity then, as someone who has actually money invested in the outcome what way did you bet and why?

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Like you I have no numbers to back this up but I think that overall Trump should expect to do worse with minorities for the simple reason that he has been very much against groups like BLM and ANTIFA. Now rightly or wrongly thats up to debate but if your a young black voter Trump doesn't look all that attractive.

I am sure he will get votes from minorities I just don't expect it to be at 2016 levels.

My professional opinion: Both Trump and Biden should go to hell because of their lies and deceit. Plan on both of them having management jobs in hell when we eventually wind up there.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not going to claim to be an expert on every state in the union but I will say that any electoral map that only has indiana leaning towards trump can't be taken seriously.

I really only changed the colours to represent a win so the total counts would be reflected.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Anecdotal info?? As a gambler with some serious money on this election anecdotes, don't cut it; And neither does your trump bubble.

Real numbers, statistics from a reliable source or GTFO.

Out of curiosity then, as someone who has actually money invested in the outcome what way did you bet and why?

I don't have any money invested in the outcome. Whomever wins the election, We lose. I will bet on that.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Anecdotal info?? As a gambler with some serious money on this election anecdotes, don't cut it; And neither does your trump bubble.

Real numbers, statistics from a reliable source or GTFO.

Out of curiosity then, as someone who has actually money invested in the outcome what way did you bet and why?

I don't have any money invested in the outcome. Whomever wins the election, We lose. I will bet on that.

To be totally clear I think both are awful candidates.

Prediction

Trump will win in a historically large landslide, on election night.

Regardless of how large the percentage of lead that Trump has, the media will refuse to "call it" in several "key" states (guessing FL, PA, WI, OH and MI on my short list) stating that there are still votes out to be counted (even if the votes left to be counted all went to Biden and still would not cover the percentage gap). Dems will start filing lawsuits on Nov. 4 claiming voter suppression and failures in USPS etc.

I'll do what I did in 2016. I'll wait until next weekend and look at the most recent state polls. Then I'll shift a percentage of Biden's approval to Trump.

In 2016 I moved 1% of Hillary to Trump and was eerily accurate.



I'm not sure how far to shift Biden to Trump yet. I think it's more than 1% but I still need to look more into the silent pollster effect.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: acparker7
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think it will be close but if I had to pick right now I'd pick a Trump win. My reasoning is mainly anecdotal. I play golf twice a week with a group of about 20 guys - all white males between the ages of 40-70 (which is a large voting block). Of those 20 I'd say 1 is openly a Biden supporter, 1 is openly a Trump supporter and the other 18 of us keep our mouths shut. Of those 18, I would bet at least 16 of us will be Trump voters. I think there are loads of people just like our group.

Nobody wants to admit or say out loud that they are voting for Trump - - it's not worth the social backlash. Keep your mouth shut, cast your vote next Tuesday and grab your popcorn.

The same reason why you don't see any Trump signs on my lawn.
I don't want my stuff vandalized. A vocal minority has shown that they will vandalize property and assault people that back Trump.

It works both ways....

www.baynews9.com...#
www.cbs58.com...
www.parkrecord.com...
pittsburgh.cbslocal.com...

There are those stray cases, but you don't see too many news stories about people getting punched in the head because they were wearing a Biden hat.

a reply to: panoz77

Trump will win in a historically large landslide, on election nigh.

I highly doubt that, I think if he wins it will be by a tiny margin.

I think its more likely to be a contested vote than Trump winning and then who knows what will happen.

Its interesting that quite a lot of people who predict Trump will win also believe that there will be loads of voter fraud and or some other kind of manipulation of the results. I am curious then, if your electoral system is so broken why didn't Trump fix it and secondly, if it is so broken will you accept either result?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I guess that's possible but it looks like Biden is definitely going to take some votes off Trump.

Do not know how can you think that since Trump clearly has MORE Latino and black voters than last time. He also has the Vietnamese, Cubans and Puerto Ricans on his side.

Got a link to back up your assertions?

Trump is doing well with black males... no hard numbers but if you look outside of your bubble, plenty of anecdotal info.

Anecdotal info?? As a gambler with some serious money on this election anecdotes, don't cut it; And neither does your trump bubble.

Real numbers, statistics from a reliable source or GTFO.

Out of curiosity then, as someone who has actually money invested in the outcome what way did you bet and why?

I play the odds and as any handicapper knows odds can change in a heartbeat. I will change my wager on how the odds stack up before "post time" Ideology has no place in the equation when you have money invested.

I learned a valuable lesson with a substantial loss last time. I prefer holdem and the track and avoid sports betting and truth be known I should also avoid politics as well; but as Amarillo Slim once said..."if you can't spot the chump at the table....it's you"