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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Circular logic is what it is, it's not what faith consists of. God doesn't need reason or any understanding to exist.
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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Faith is belief for its own sake, no evidence required.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Too bad. Enjoy your day.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 03:41 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Someone who asks for proof of God never wants any.


By all means, please quote Pachomius‘s most compelling evidence his/her god exists.

All I see Is Pachomius posting a dogmatic definition of their god while hypocritically labeling others “religious”.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Pachomius

Then by you every "God" exists





There is only one god.


How in the context Pachomius posted this for any god to exist?



What about my concept of proof?
Proof in concept is the process by which one human being succeeds to convince another human being: that something is factually and truthfully in existence - in the world outside and independent of our mind and/or in our mind.



In the context of the above statement, any concept of god shared and mutually believed exists. Is that false in the context of logic of the post.


Perhaps, but there's only one god so you can 't miss.


So Jesus, Zeus, Thor, Hades, Ra, Isis, and/or Aztec gods requiring sacrifice are all the same god.

Funny you claim same god, while the pursuit of different gods lead to different customs and different rituals.

So no. All religion is not worshipping the same one god. And I would hope the one true god would find human sacrifice by forced murder, and the trampling on our given freewill by religious dogma abominations.
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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Pachomius

Then by you every "God" exists





There is only one god.


How in the context Pachomius posted this for any god to exist?



What about my concept of proof?
Proof in concept is the process by which one human being succeeds to convince another human being: that something is factually and truthfully in existence - in the world outside and independent of our mind and/or in our mind.



In the context of the above statement, any concept of god shared and mutually believed exists. Is that false in the context of logic of the post.


Perhaps, but there's only one god so you can 't miss.


From human sacrifice by murder, religious logic justifying slavery, to collective salvation, f’n groups have missed miserably.
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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 04:20 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux
What is a f'n group?



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Do you need any more proof of the god?



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Do you need any more proof of the god?


Please cite the evidence you already provided in this thread...



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I'll take that as a no.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:05 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Do you need any more proof of the god?


You could start with the Heaven’s Gate Cult.

Or Jim Jones and don’t drink the kool-aid.



November 18, 1978, in what became known as the Jonestown Massacre, Jones led more than 900 men, women and children to their deaths in a mass suicide via cyanide-laced punch (spawning the metaphor "Don't Drink the Kool-Aid").

www.biography.com...


How does that play into your comment:



Perhaps, but there's only one god so you can 't miss.


So people can miss in an epic, corrupt, perverted fashion that would do nothing to glorify a true god. Or at least not any god I would follow.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:07 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

I'll take that as a no.


Again. By all means cite in this thread where evidence other than faith is provided.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Do what they telt you to. You'll feel like a boss.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Do what they telt you to. You'll feel like a boss.



You are the one being evasive, and trying to distract with one liners.

Now. Can you answer a question with integrity and effort.

Again. By all means cite in this thread where evidence other than faith is provided.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

You must not be following.

There's nothing we can do for you.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

You must not be following.

There's nothing we can do for you.


Your the one being evasive, posting proven false truths, misquoting Jesus, and not provide proof of god other than your faith, and cannot take the time to use a paragraph or two to full develop an idea.

Again. Your a distraction that does nothing to help get closer to the truth.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Again. Nothing wrong with faith, but it is not proof of god actually existing.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I'm evasive, does that mean you know or are you just pretending?



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

I'm evasive, does that mean you know or are you just pretending?


Then quote the post where you answered to:

Again. By all means cite in this thread where evidence other than faith is provided.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 06:56 AM
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When faith is not evidence to you I fear there's not much if anything we can do for you.



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