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Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

When faith is not evidence to you I fear there's not much if anything we can do for you.


Faith is not evidence, it’s your personal experience.

And my faith is not your faith. So faith is personal “evidence”. If you believe in your concept of your god that is your faith. Now what evidence can you provide, as an example, that humankind was created by your god. And not bioengineered by extraterrestrials.

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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:13 AM
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Faith is personal evidence and there is only one god.

What is your personal experience? Did some priest bother you?
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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Your being evasive again. And trying to change the subject to a BS scenario that you have no evidence of, and that never happened.

Your implication is a lie, and a distraction.

Now:

And my faith is not your faith. So faith is personal “evidence”. If you believe in your concept of your god that is your faith. Now what evidence can you provide, as an example, that humankind was created by your god. And not bioengineered by extraterrestrials.


In your false claim everyone worship is to one god.

The whole argument.




There is only one god.

How in the context Pachomius posted this for any god to exist?



What about my concept of proof?
Proof in concept is the process by which one human being succeeds to convince another human being: that something is factually and truthfully in existence - in the world outside and independent of our mind and/or in our mind.



In the context of the above statement, any concept of god shared and mutually believed exists. Is that false in the context of logic of the post.

Perhaps, but there's only one god so you can 't miss.

So Jesus, Zeus, Thor, Hades, Ra, Isis, and/or Aztec gods requiring sacrifice are all the same god.

Funny you claim same god, while the pursuit of different gods lead to different customs and different rituals.

So no. All religion is not worshipping the same one god. And I would hope the one true god would find human sacrifice by forced murder, and the trampling on our given freewill by religious dogma abominations.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Do you need any more proof of the god?

You could start with the Heaven’s Gate Cult.

Or Jim Jones and don’t drink the kool-aid.



November 18, 1978, in what became known as the Jonestown Massacre, Jones led more than 900 men, women and children to their deaths in a mass suicide via cyanide-laced punch (spawning the metaphor "Don't Drink the Kool-Aid").

www.biography.com...


How does that play into your comment:



Perhaps, but there's only one god so you can 't miss.


So people can miss in an epic, corrupt, perverted fashion that would do nothing to glorify a true god. Or at least not any god I would follow.


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If you had substance, you wouldn’t need to result to personal attacks based in implication and lies.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I'm not bothered, really. Enjoy your faith.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

I'm not bothered, really. Enjoy your faith.


Than why make an off topic personal attack that has nothing to do with this thread based on lies. Just to change the subject.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Please cite this attack you're talking about.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 08:54 AM
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Sorry for these false accusations out6of9balance.

It's ok neutronflux, enjoy your fate.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Please cite this attack you're talking about.


Are you that delusional.
This

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux


What is your personal experience? Did some priest bother you?


Totally off topic, totally baseless, and nothing to do with this thread.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Simple questions can be hard for you, you know.

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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Simple questions can be hard for you, you know.


Your the one that is evasive. Not me.

Now. How does you asking


Did some priest bother you?


Get anybody any closer to the truth of “ Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.”

Just another question you will ignore, be evasive about, and ending with you trying to pass up ownership of/change the subject of.
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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

We wandered off discussing personal experience.

Don 't be mad bro.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

It’s just more of you spreading BS that distracts from the actual topic.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

BS is subjective



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

BS is subjective


So is faith

But in your case. It’s quite clear and repugnant.

Now...

Faith is not evidence, it’s your personal experience.

And my faith is not your faith. So faith is personal “evidence”. If you believe in your concept of your god that is your faith. Now what evidence can you provide, as an example, that humankind was created by your god. And not bioengineered by extraterrestrials.

Or you going to change the subject again.


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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:09 PM
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You keep changing the truth, no wonder you're getting nowhere.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

You keep changing the truth, no wonder you're getting nowhere.


Again.

How does you asking


Did some priest bother you?


Get anybody any closer to the truth of “ Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.”

Then by all, means cite and quote actual evidence of god existing from this thread. I see proof of lots of trolls though. Might be time to stop feeding their appetite for attention.




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posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

You're alone in this, there's nothing we can do for you.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance



You must not be following.

There's nothing we can do for you.

I just finally found the words to offer my theory and posted it on the Archeotheology thread:

I've read some silly popular notions before. One Biggy is that all paths lead up the same mountain. That always struck me as being wrong, based upon what people standing on mountain tops said. Now if there were only one mountain then the people would be describing the same scene. But they describe scenes totally different.

My theory is that there may be one truly awesome scene to be seen. Of the many mountains, some offer a way better chance to see that view. Some mountains are so far away that people may miss the view.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe that could help.
Worth a shot at least.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:50 PM
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The main takeaway here is that there is no actual definition of god except for a poetic description that is pure hypothesis and not based on any reliable data. Pachomius is doing his or her not very best to get around that by devising a semantic argument that only approaches the ontology of the matter by proving via plain rhetoric we must assume a basic understanding without explicitly demonstrating this entity or creature in any substantial manner. Lazy, unproductive and dishonest.



posted on Aug, 5 2020 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Now here I was having a very joyful day.

then: Jim Jones

I was a voting delegate in the joint assembly that had his name officially removed from the Directory. A whole lot of good that did for anyone. A prime example of virtue signaling.

Now I feel like changing my name to: DayLateDollarShort.



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