I can't take this crap anymore. I need to speak my mind!

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Age is not the determining doctor it’s underlying health CPR on a frail old lady/man is horrible, like really horrible.

You can have a 20 year old with terminal cancer with a DNR but a fit and healthy 80 year old who is for full treatment up to level 3. It’s not about age it’s about the odds of survival.

This has nothing to do with socialism, am not interesting in a political debate I only ventured into this thread just to point out the errors in the OP.

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: chelsealad
a reply to: TheWhiteKnight

I agree.

The Gates thing is beyond belief.
First he says the world is over populated then wants to save everyone with a vaccine.

I have no sources but I read that he owns the patent to Covid-19 and also the vaccine?!?
Would love proper clarification on that.

No one has a patent on the virus or a vaccine. Wow.

there was a ATS post 7 days ago USA has a patent 2007.

found it! Link

a reply to: buddha

Just so we can try to have the best info possible:

Thats for SARS-CoV.

It is stated in that OP, and Im not saying this virus wasnt tampered with (at the very least), but there ya go.

ETA: Figure I should also note that I find the concept of patents in these regards.. Disturbing.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: buddha

Just so we can try to have the best info possible:

Thats for SARS-CoV.

It is stated in that OP, and Im not saying this virus wasnt tampered with (at the very least), but there ya go.

ETA: Figure I should also note that I find the concept of patents in these regards.. Disturbing.

oops sorry!
infomation over load.
thats part of the disinformation.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Perhaps the real ignorance is the lie of socialism that the State ( and therefore doctors who answer to the State) should decide who lives and dies, and that...

Oh, Lordie. I really think you need to start again with the research. Start with having a gander at the clinical, eithical and professional standards the professionals in the NHS need to adopt. At the minute your understanding of the issues is 1 out of 100.

a reply to: chelsealad

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. The is a FFO. They lie above almost everything. I saw photos of makeshift hospitals with 100s of beds EMPTY! This virus is only a problem with complex medical problems. Most people who have it doesn't even know it. The intent is global financial collapse to bring in digital currency and remove freedom. I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY. Pennsylvania is quarantined now all of May i heard but not verified.

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: chelsealad

Don`t let the pigs grind you down,

Make it happen folks.
the yellow jackets are back! WWG1WGA

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Age is not the determining doctor it’s underlying health CPR on a frail old lady/man is horrible, like really horrible.

You can have a 20 year old with terminal cancer with a DNR but a fit and healthy 80 year old who is for full treatment up to level 3. It’s not about age it’s about the odds of survival.

This has nothing to do with socialism, am not interesting in a political debate I only ventured into this thread just to point out the errors in the OP.

Oh still the State determining who gets to live or die based on their projected analysis of the probability (odds) of survival .... nice way to ration life saving measures. It’s thinking in terms of rationing services and not on the Hippocratic Oath... or do you understand that ???? And now I remember why I disagree with you most of the time.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Perhaps the real ignorance is the lie of socialism that the State ( and therefore doctors who answer to the State) should decide who lives and dies, and that...

Oh, Lordie. I really think you need to start again with the research. Start with having a gander at the clinical, eithical and professional standards the professionals in the NHS need to adopt. At the minute your understanding of the issues is 1 out of 100.

So you think that the professional standards of U.K. State weigh in more than Hippocratic Oath... can always tell the Statists around here .

originally posted by: Spacespider
Funny, I would have thought that ATS have been all for a "wait it out" tactic against this virus..
But I guess you guys would rather risk it all.

I'm sorry but come on now, even after a disease we are told is anything but new, with a death toll which is actually LOWWR than the death toll for Coronavirus which we experienced in each of the last handful of years (and that's lower even with this new order in place given to doctors from the federal and worldwide disease control and health organizations to classify virtually any non-car accident, non stage 4 cancer, or other well defined death as a Covid-19 death, long as it occurred in the last several weeks and was related to health and not random misfortune, a disease which is the very first ever to result in 24/7 coverage on every channel even though it is so unremarkable that you're better off with it than you are the common cold or the seasonal flu, the first which has led to astronomical death toll predictions with zero agreement from one scientist to the next and all prompted without anyone being able to show the mechanism by which the disease is so deadly, a disease for which the plan to combat it is the exact worldwide reorganisation of people and behavior to the T that people have been warning on ATS that we would see between 2012 and 2023, a disease which it is quite possible/likely that anyone can test positive for it as the idea of being positive is so broad it includes nearly all of us if you look at the language used, a disease which more than 9 out of 10 people must accept they are "sick"with, trust them... even though you're almost certain to feel nothing whatsoever, and a disease which like the war on drugs or war on terror, just coincidentally happens to be in fact a broadly defined spectrum where, as the tests are more or less meaningless, ticking a single box in a spectrum which could include all or any one of us so the government will make that call but a spectrum so broad an purposely defined with ambiguity that there is no way to ever obtain a real picture or determine when the threat is over and so the only solution is to suspend the Constitution and put the power to restructure and redefine an entirely new worldwide system od economics in the hands of the giant, already well known to be incredibly criminal, health organizations, federal governments, central banks, etc. who also must dictate how we now are alllowed to live our lives and what they forbid all because they are so dedicated to safety...you and other people can still...STILL be led to believe this is a health issue and not 100% political scamming and truly evil at that and the inevitable reset that everyone has warned about for a century!?!

In your eyes what, sure it looks exactly like the crazy conspiracy theorists warnings but like everything else corona related it just happens to be a damn strange coincidence but they are still wrong they only LOOK spot on correct? A lot of you are the same people who were throwing fits because trans people demanded a third bathroom be built in all buildings by law and you said why do that for what amounts to a million or two people in the US? But at the same time, we SHOULD suspend the archaic bill of rights and allow 24-7 intimate surveillance and tracking by the very entities which control the central banking system, the corrupt pharmaceutical and disease gods, and who cream their pants at the thought of a 95% reduction in population and an imposed 2 class system where the slave class and elite never need mingle as the slaves are restricted to their population zones and do it all for a number of people who barely compromise a single one percent of the TRANSGENDERS!?

There is no logic to your belief system meaning it is being programmed and implanted into you then. Why is it that every other past disease in history we can give exacts, precise numbers, had a black or white litmus test for those who have and those who haven't and why is it that just like the one plane disaster which out of nowhere was just baffling and full of coincidences and impossible to agree upon just happened to be 9/11? Why is it that after countless people in a courts custody have gone through unremarkable suicide watch stays for federal charges but it just so happens finally one slipped thru the cracks and it just happened to be the one who left the most unanswered imperative questions? Why is it that I can give one of these examples for everything under the sun and u will determine its government criminality but suddenly the disease that causes a worldwide economic sacrifice of absolute proportions is one that can't be felt can't be tested for reliably can't be predicted can't be graphed and thus must have every bit of its phantom characteristics determined by the government and told to us!? But THIS time it isnt fishy, just is as they say and they are only trying to help....my God I can't wrap my head around the level of self delusion....

Cuz it's bs duh

a reply to: chelsealad

I’ve heard it’s good to be “woke”.

Now you’re “Vid Woke”.

That’s the most important woke right now....

Well done, sir! Couldn’t agree more.

originally posted by: TheWhiteKnight
This entire thing is NWO/electric grid/vaccine and economic blackmail.

They are baiting Trump into downplaying the ‘virus’, whereupon they
will fiddle with the frequencies in the smart meter/grid wiring to further weaken and destroy
immune systems, because they can, and because, frankly, the concept of what they are
doing is simply too harrowing for average persons to contemplate or grasp.

5G is just another step in the transhumanist hell that has no end.
Without computer generated electrical impulses, scalar energies that interact
biologically, none of this would be possible. With what they interpret in their
experiments, the personal data, deleterious health effects etc, they fill their
political sails with wind, and this is exactly what we are hearing as cuomo, gates, fauci et al
lay out their plans. The effin nerve for them to lay out such economic prognostications
is proof of their awareness of what they do serve: Evil. That this ‘virus’ has been given carte blanc
to claim responsibility for mortality no matter what was the cause of death, is more evidence
of conspiracy, which includes doctors who cannot function without prednisone and antibiotics.


I have mentioned this in each of my incarnations: 3 dimensions subservient to 2 is what we
are facing, and it is beastly. My only comfort, my fort, is the certainty that God foresaw this, as ever.
Wrath awaits the abettors, and it will come as a shock to their fame intoxicated asses. But that
is pale in comparison to the designers desserts. That...is why hell is everlasting.

# 1101

I am so encouraged by intelligent persons such as yourself seeing clearly through the deadly charade being foisted upon the world. I first became aware of the global evil in the early `80's when I spent more than five years working for the evil globalist World Bank. as a computer engineer designing their systems in ALL their buildings/facilities I had complete access to every person and every corner of that vile organization. What I learned there basically forced a giant red ill down my throat and I've been a totally dedicated "conspiracy theorist" ever since, but back then I stood almost alone. I'm greatly encouraged to see so many waking up to their insidious plans. The greatest mistake one can make when researching those in power is to attribute normal human empathy and emotion to them. They have NONE of it. never forget this important fact.

Bea reply to: CriticalStinker

Besides a three way, what would be the advantage of an extra butthole?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So you think that the professional standards of U.K. State weigh in more than Hippocratic Oath... can always tell the Statists around here .

Oh dear. You are trying to read too much. The Hippocratic Oath is an ancient pledge which starts like this...

“I swear by Apollo the Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture.”

So while the sentiment is undoubtedly incorporated within the professional standards of clinicians and other healthcare staff, I really don't think making an oath to ancient Gods has much credence nowadays, do you? That said, the oath is symbolic of the intent and integral as a contextual baseline usually recited on a medical student’s graduation.

Regardless, parts of the Hippocratic Oath are not relevent to modern medicine today, such as a "not to use a knife". Fat lot of good that is for a surgeon.

Professional standards are more than a sentence recited at graduation.

BTW good professional standards have sod-all to so with statism. Have you not clocked that? Even American doctors have standards you know!

Trump and Boris have been a disaster.

Also:

"Nurses and Dr's are NOT overwhelmed nor are they finding it difficult to get PPE!"

This is LITERALLY fake news.
- mom is a district nurse
- sister is a healthcare assistant
- cousin is a GP
- best friend manages a care home

You are absolutely wrong. They are desperate for PPE and many are even relying on people 3d printing masks etc at home.

I can't believe this has 80+ stars.

This is you siding with the establishment over your own people. Oldskool Tory mindset.

Shame on you. I sincerely hope you don't end up in hospital, but if you did you would soon realise.

Oh and £35k average salary for a nurse?

Maybe the MEAN but not the MODAL average.

For you to even suggest that the average nurse earns 35k, and to imply they're being greedy is so utterly offensive and ignorant, and smacks of a little rich boy who has no clue.

Yes, I am triggered, you're god damn right I am. Not because I'm a snowflake, but because nurses are going through hell right now.

But as you clearly worship your corporate overlords before your own peers, there's little point pushing it further.

I am for my own people, not for the rich puppet masters at the top.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I agree with this.People are so shortsighted.

And the damage has been done

I love jigsaw puzzles. A few years back, I was given a jigsaw puzzle called "spilled paint". It was a jigsaw puzzle that came without any clues. None of pieces had straight edges. No picture, no dimensions, no corners. When I first got the puzzle, I thought it was impossible to complete, it wasn't.

That is what all of this looks like to me. A bunch of puzzle pieces that seem to fit together, but keep you from being able to construct the whole picture. In some cases, some of the pieces are hiding under other pieces, or have been removed from the board, leaving questions. Questions that if answered truthfully, will start to make the picture a bit easier to see.

A month ago I was sent a video of a poor Black neighborhood covered with Verizon vehicles, installing 5G towers throughout the 50+ block neighborhood. They stood out like sore thumbs, because it was in the middle of the lock down and everyone was told to "stay home".

Today I watched on TV a parade of wealthy people and military people go into one of the poorest of neighborhoods to provide testing (to save lives), and get them set up in the system, so they can get their unemployment money. This is the same neighborhood where they can't get them insulin or heart medicines (to save their lives), and where they never gave a damn about what happened there when it came to killing and other crimes, but here they come to save them. And we are supposed to believe it is purely from the goodness of their hearts.

I never saw the 5G connection to this until they started in on the "new normal" partnered with the "contact tracing" phase of the agenda. How else are they going to be able to effectively place electronic animal trackers on the humans around the whole planet, without a push back?

When you have people more afraid of dying than they are of living, they don't have to fight us. They have already set up the ladder and the five monkey trap has already been set.

This reminds me, my aunt works in a hospital in northern California. They had TWO cases of coronovirus and the media reported it as 20!

There is a lot of lying and bull# going on to keep people in a constant state if panic and compliance. Most of the sheeple will do and react as they are told to do.

a reply to: chelsealad

How long was the patient expected to last if they had not contracted Covid-19?
This is what is meant by weakened systems.
Covid is still the killer because this person probably wouldnt have died on this day from cancer.
Maybe they might have but...
Are you saying they did not have covid and the cause of death was a lie.
Thats a crime. Doctors have very very strict rules they need to abide by. They dont go around lying about the cause of death so I doubt you are saying that.