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Trends are so important in modeling viruses. And there is something off about one very important part of these trends. I’ll let you pick it out. But note that China only had that one large jump in February, on the 12th. Was it because someone slipped up and counted the Asumptomatic for one day?
originally posted by: ThouArtGod
Under its newest COVID-19 prevention guidelines, China does not include in its overall daily count for total and for new cases those who retest positive after being released from medical care. China also does not include asymptomatic cases in case counts.
"I have no idea why the authorities choose not to count [asymptomatic] cases in the official case count. I am baffled," said one of the Wuhan doctors who had a second positive test after recovering.
The source is NPR, so the facts should at least be correct.
SO this is insane. When the world is discussing how we can test those who may already have had this and are now immune... When countries are desperate for information so that they can scientifically plan for outbreaks... when those on all sides are using collated information to push their narrative/advocate for courses of action...
China goes and admits that they have been withholding information all along, especially critical information that is extremely pertinent to modeling, planning, and in the end, saving lives/economies (separate, but not mutually exclusive). I have speculated since the beginning that China was, or must, be lying about its infection rates and here is real proof. I wonder if this guy will wake up dead tomorrow... or find himself working in a concentration camp as a "doctor".
For the drones who are now failing to comprehend the thread...
This is not fake news. It is not about the failure rate of the testing method (although that is quite interesting!) It is about the fact that China is NOT reporting those who test positive, but are asymptomatic. If I need to explain why that is maddeningly huge, please ask below!
originally posted by: ThouArtGod
a reply to: putnam6
I went to my only local chinese food shop two days ago... they have closed for the time being. But then again, my town has increased the state and federal restrictions, closing all public points of interest. This includes 17 businesses on the short boardwalk alone.
on a side note- I stopped by to see the Lin's, (the family that owns the restaurant) last week, and offered them anything they need in light of all that is happening. They turned down the offer, but said they'd call if they need anything. I hope they haven't left town permanently, as I would miss them. Their daughter and mine (4 yrs old) laugh and play every time I go over there.
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: Snarl
Dropping a nuke on Wuhan would not be unwarranted.
Would send a clear message that biological warfare will be met with unrepentant death and destruction.
Let's see if the President and his staff have the cajones. More Americans will die from this than 9-11.
Yeah, let's kill millions of innocent men, women and children! Does that turn you on!?
That's what happens in war. They started it. Look at what they've done.
Wait'll it starts getting reported on your island.
originally posted by: OldLightHouse
a reply to: ThouArtGod
I've never seen the government not counting asymptomatic people in the official numbers (the first I hear of that)...
Look, I don't like to give the Chinese governments compliments, because I think they are horrible... but I do have to give credit where credit is due - their handling of this crisis was supreme in every way (in a cold non-humanitarian, lets stop this damn virus kinda way - it was harsh but if you look at the rest of the world it was clearly necessary).
The Chinese takes this virus damn seriously, more so than any other government and I can tell you they are not taking any chances. Whether they include the asymptomatic people in their official numbers I'm not sure (I think they do, but can't be sure), but I do know is that they don't ignore asymptomatic people - they isolate and treat everyone, even if you are just suspected of having it or having had (even distant) contact with someone that might have it. They closely monitor the entire nation's temperatures on a daily basis (you can't go anywhere without having your temperature checked) and they are extremely determined not to allow a second wave to stifle the economy. IMO, the safest place on earth right now from the virus.
I'm in Chengdu. No new infections here for about 3 weeks now. Life is returning to normal. Everyone always said that the real proof that everything is really under control would be when China announces that schools are to open - and in fact China just announced that schools are set to open on the 13th of April in our province...
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: ThouArtGod
a reply to: Jay-morris
This is my last attempt at this.
They are NOT reporting POSITIVE TESTS, if the people who TEST POSITIVE are not presenting symptoms. This is HUGE, HUGE, HUGE.
I have explained why. If you refuse to read what I am writing, it is either willful ignorance, or you are trolling me for fun.
If this is the case, , then why are we seeing a reduce in China regarding the virus? If what you are saying it true, then that would sweep across China very quickly.
So, why are will seeing cases fall dramatically in china?
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: Snarl
Dropping a nuke on Wuhan would not be unwarranted.
Would send a clear message that biological warfare will be met with unrepentant death and destruction.
Let's see if the President and his staff have the cajones. More Americans will die from this than 9-11.
Yeah, let's kill millions of innocent men, women and children! Does that turn you on!?
China has already done that to install their current government.
Between 45 and 55 million innocent people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China to accomplish that.
Does that turn you on?
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: Snarl
Dropping a nuke on Wuhan would not be unwarranted.
Would send a clear message that biological warfare will be met with unrepentant death and destruction.
Let's see if the President and his staff have the cajones. More Americans will die from this than 9-11.
Yeah, let's kill millions of innocent men, women and children! Does that turn you on!?
That's what happens in war. They started it. Look at what they've done.
Wait'll it starts getting reported on your island.
It's already in the UK! Do your answer is to kill millions of innocent men, women and children!?
Funny thst the people who say such things will never actually fight in a war! Stick to playing COD on your console!
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: ThouArtGod
a reply to: Jay-morris
This is my last attempt at this.
They are NOT reporting POSITIVE TESTS, if the people who TEST POSITIVE are not presenting symptoms. This is HUGE, HUGE, HUGE.
I have explained why. If you refuse to read what I am writing, it is either willful ignorance, or you are trolling me for fun.
If this is the case, , then why are we seeing a reduce in China regarding the virus? If what you are saying it true, then that would sweep across China very quickly.
So, why are will seeing cases fall dramatically in china?
Because the Chinese govt are dirt bag Communists and lie about their numbers.
China needs to be sanctioned. All companies should pull out and we should leave that entire country on their own.