Pulled a knife on a guy who tried to light me on fire tonight...

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: XxKonspiracyxX

Did you miss the part about a giant fight breaking out over this guy's behavior?

I think everybody missed it because all you said was people were yelling about it.

He also didn't seem to care when I told him to go away and leave me alone,

That’s new.

My bartender can handle the ass-woopins.

Your story indicates otherwise, especially with your most recent additions to the original story.

Read my latest reply and understand the situation. He wouldn't get off me. In order to get the bartender, he needed to be removed - so I removed him.

I'm in a clearer state of mind now, and if anyone has any questions about what happened, go ahead and ask. I realize I didn't give all the details last night because my anxiety had my hands shaking and my mind cluttered. But I'm past that now, so if anyone wants any extra details or clarifying information, ask away.

a reply to: Boadicea

Even if I am being difficult.

You are, but I still love ya

a reply to: XxKonspiracyxX

I'm real glad to hear that. I figured you were still pretty worked up about it last night, and my heart went out to you. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I'm impressed too!

Take good care of yourself

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: XxKonspiracyxX

Did you miss the part about a giant fight breaking out over this guy's behavior?

I think everybody missed it because all you said was people were yelling about it.

He also didn't seem to care when I told him to go away and leave me alone,

That’s new.

My bartender can handle the ass-woopins.

Your story indicates otherwise, especially with your most recent additions to the original story.

Read my latest reply and understand the situation. He wouldn't get off me. In order to get the bartender, he needed to be removed - so I removed him.

I did, hence why I said it’s new information.

Your bartender still sucks at running the place if the guy was doing that to other girls and trying to fight people.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Boadicea

You are, but I still love ya

Right back atcha my friend!!! And on the plus side, I haven't gone full woad yet

BTW, I sent you a PM...

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX
I'm in a clearer state of mind now, and if anyone has any questions about what happened, go ahead and ask. I realize I didn't give all the details last night because my anxiety had my hands shaking and my mind cluttered. But I'm past that now, so if anyone wants any extra details or clarifying information, ask away.

You got skepticism coming at you in spades for a reason. You wrote yourself as a Samurai Susan with your chest all puffed out and not saying a word before going for the metal to brandish. You wrote it, it's your words.
Then you left it exactly as you wrote it to fester away for almost 18 hours. Because that's not suspicious at all when making this kind of claim.

Like a s# writer, you left massive plotholes the size of Alaska that just plain don't add up, for people to pick up on, and now you're getting pissy because they were pointed out and people don't believe you? Like very late addendums to CYA are going to help any.

IMO, nothing went down as you claim, if at all. If this was a thought experiment, you failed. If it's an outright lie, you're a very questionable person scraping bottom.

Let me clear a few things up now...

The usual bartender for Fridays is on vacation. The bar's owner was working last night, awesome dude. The reason he didn't throw the pervert out beforehand was because there was a big debate about whether or not anything actually happened. One of the girls' boyfriends saw him grope her, and the girl swore up and down that it didn't happen (I guess because she liked it? I don't understand some of these people). EDIT: This was the reason for the massive argument that took place on the back porch.

The reason I do my writing at this bar is because I'm homeless and have no consistent transportation to any other places. I have some money coming in sometime in the semi-near future, and I plan to get an RV with that money. But until that money comes, I have to continue living this way. That's why I write at my bar, and that's why I carry protection.

The guy's physical actions toward me consisted of attempted groping (he was drunk and couldn't really aim his hands though) and laying on my chest. He also wanted me to read my book to him for some reason, and I asked him to leave me alone, but he wouldn't budge. I wanted to go get my bartender, but he wouldn't get off me and I also didn't want to leave my laptop sitting outside unattended, so yes, I guided him away from my belongings and into my bartender's direct line of sight. Then I told the bartender, and he escorted the drunk guy off the property.

Sigh... there we go.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX
I'm in a clearer state of mind now, and if anyone has any questions about what happened, go ahead and ask. I realize I didn't give all the details last night because my anxiety had my hands shaking and my mind cluttered. But I'm past that now, so if anyone wants any extra details or clarifying information, ask away.

You got skepticism coming at you in spades for a reason. You wrote yourself as a Samurai Susan with your chest all puffed out and not saying a word before going for the metal to brandish. You wrote it, it's your words.
Then you left it exactly as you wrote it to fester away for almost 18 hours. Because that's not suspicious at all when making this kind of claim.

Like a s# writer, you left massive plotholes the size of Alaska that just plain don't add up, for people to pick up on, and now you're getting pissy because they were pointed out and people don't believe you? Like very late addendums to CYA are going to help any.

IMO, nothing went down as you claim, if at all. If this was a thought experiment, you failed. If it's an outright lie, you're a very questionable person scraping bottom.

Lol.. My reviewers would disagree with you about my writing. If you wanna insult me, try harder.

I just posted an update that rectifies everything you whined about here. Read and be enlightened.

Oh... also, I don't know how relevant this is, but the guy ended up coming back briefly. After my bartender led him away, he wandered back to the porch a few minutes later and kept trying to apologize to me.

I told him it's fine, we're good, just go home and sleep it off. I must've said that like ten times because he hardly understood basic English at this point. Afterward, he wandered up the hill toward the apartments and stayed gone for the night.

Happy ending... I guess?

originally posted by: TheBlackDog
Maybe you shouldn't go to bars on a Friday night to be left alone to concentrate, especially since your anxiety it through the roof already.

And stop wearing a dress, you're only asking for it. And hide your boobs. And don't use your eyes.

In fact, here, wear this full body covering, don't go outside, and only speak to direct family members.

Are we doing this right, guys?

originally posted by: rickymouse
You shouldn't pull a knife at that point, a good swift kick to his balls would have been much better, but then make sure you get the knife open in case he decided to come after you. I have seen events like that, but usually a guy at the event would step in and get a guy like that away from the women he was offending when I was young. My question is why are good guys not protecting the women anymore?

I have personally stopped events like that numerous times in the past. More than twenty times but less than fifty when I was young. When a guy stands up, other guys then help that guy to get the person away from causing harm.

Lol!!

Don't instantly protect yourself, you silly girl.

Kick him in the balls first, then get ready to stab him. That's the best way!

Seems a lot of people are siding with the guy here. Strangely, I'm not. No excuse for this pos.

See a woman stand up for herself, and people instantly assume she asked for it... sad.

a reply to: Boadicea

I'd imagine Shamrock not liking it if a big ugly hairy bloke came over, wrapped his arms around him in a loving embrace, his breath toxic with alcohol and cigarette smoke, his long wiry beard full of cheezle crumbs, and sniffed his hair saying "Hey man, I'm not gay but I'm really into you, bro."

But if he didn't like it, well then he should have just stayed at home.

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX
Oh... also, I don't know how relevant this is, but the guy ended up coming back briefly. After my bartender led him away, he wandered back to the porch a few minutes later and kept trying to apologize to me.

I told him it's fine, we're good, just go home and sleep it off. I must've said that like ten times because he hardly understood basic English at this point. Afterward, he wandered up the hill toward the apartments and stayed gone for the night.

Happy ending... I guess?

Yes, it's very relevant.

You made out that you hated this guy, you were really upset and finished your post with "I really hate people sometimes... "

Yet, in reality it was left as, "it's fine, we're good"

Now i'm not saying this incident didn't happen and you weren't upset at it, but it seems to me that, at the very least, you have used quite a bit of creative licence in your original post.

Sorry, but don't see how it can be viewed any other way...

Happy ending... I guess?

No, not for the people that have been discussing back and forth here all day in your absence and missing how the situation actually finished....

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Boadicea

Exactly, any normal bloke would have punched his lights out at this point, which would have been assault. She merely pointed and said words, and yet the man-boobs on this site find this unacceptable and start insults.


SMH

Yup. And we both know they'd be howling like banshees if it were their girlfriend or mother or sister it happened to. But somehow when a woman is put in a vulnerable and dangerous position by a sex offender, she's in the wrong for protecting herself. I don't know what some people are thinking, but that can behavior escalates quickly and dangerously. Just like it did. He didn't even back off when she did act in her own defense, but became even more aggressive. As if he had some right to enjoy her body. Ugh. Just so freaking creepy.

She did the right thing. It could have been so much worse.

I hope she comes back. She sure didn't need or deserve this crap on ATS. The abuse at the bar wasn't enough. Nope. The misogynists here had to pile on.

Good job, dudes

The guy is a sex offender now...like really. For crying out loud enough already. Why is this woman in a bar and drawing knives on people,why the # are you defending such reckless behavior.

Actually, this only happened to me after he tried to feel up on the other girls in the bar and got reprimanded for it. Did you miss the part about a giant fight breaking out over this guy's behavior? He was putting his hands on girls all night. He also didn't seem to care when I told him to go away and leave me alone, and he was trying to pick a fight with the other girls' father, too.

You can call it reckless, but he deserved it. Quite honestly, he was harassing everyone in the place and he deserves worse, but believe it or not, I'm not that violent a soul. My bartender can handle the ass-woopins.

Can you explain to me why the bar staff didn't handle this violent sex offender and left him to freely molest women in the establishment?

a reply to: Diaspar

Yes, it's very relevant.

You made out that you hated this guy, you were really upset and finished your post with "I really hate people sometimes... "

Yet, in reality it was left as, "it's fine, we're good"

Now i'm not saying this incident didn't happen and you weren't upset at it, but it seems to me that, at the very least, you have used quite a bit of creative licence in your original post.

Sorry, but don't see how it can be viewed any other way...

Yes, it ended off on relatively civil terms. Does that mean I should be happy about the events that transpired beforehand? I was bordering on a panic attack and his presence was making it worse. I wanted him to go home. Everyone did.

No, not for the people that have been discussing back and forth here all day in your absence and missing how the situation actually finished....

Well, forgive me for not living my entire life on the ATS forums. I don't have regular internet access around the clock, especially the way I'm living now. I was pissed and I ranted in the rant forums. If you don't want to argue about it, there's a very simple solution; don't reply. Go watch TV. Badda-boom-ba, problem solved.

a reply to: gallop

Your point is very well taken... but oh noes! I wouldn't wish that on anyone!!!

But I do think -- generally speaking -- that most men do not know or understand the instinctive fear women learn from having such encounters. And I don't want them to know. But we have no choice. Women have no way of knowing if a man is socially awkward, or rude and obnoxious but basically harmless, or if they are violent predators who are just looking for any opportunity to force themselves on a woman.

And women also know that no matter what we do or don't do, someone will find a way to blame us. So what's a woman to do? I know! I know!

Take care of herself first and worry about the haters later. Anyone who would fault a woman for protecting herself doesn't have her best interests at heart anyway.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Boadicea

Exactly, any normal bloke would have punched his lights out at this point, which would have been assault. She merely pointed and said words, and yet the man-boobs on this site find this unacceptable and start insults.


SMH

Yup. And we both know they'd be howling like banshees if it were their girlfriend or mother or sister it happened to. But somehow when a woman is put in a vulnerable and dangerous position by a sex offender, she's in the wrong for protecting herself. I don't know what some people are thinking, but that can behavior escalates quickly and dangerously. Just like it did. He didn't even back off when she did act in her own defense, but became even more aggressive. As if he had some right to enjoy her body. Ugh. Just so freaking creepy.

She did the right thing. It could have been so much worse.

I hope she comes back. She sure didn't need or deserve this crap on ATS. The abuse at the bar wasn't enough. Nope. The misogynists here had to pile on.

Good job, dudes

The guy is a sex offender now...like really. For crying out loud enough already. Why is this woman in a bar and drawing knives on people,why the # are you defending such reckless behavior.

Actually, this only happened to me after he tried to feel up on the other girls in the bar and got reprimanded for it. Did you miss the part about a giant fight breaking out over this guy's behavior? He was putting his hands on girls all night. He also didn't seem to care when I told him to go away and leave me alone, and he was trying to pick a fight with the other girls' father, too.

You can call it reckless, but he deserved it. Quite honestly, he was harassing everyone in the place and he deserves worse, but believe it or not, I'm not that violent a soul. My bartender can handle the ass-woopins.

Can you explain to me why the bar staff didn't handle this violent sex offender and left him to freely molest women in the establishment?

See update above.

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: XxKonspiracyxX

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Boadicea

Exactly, any normal bloke would have punched his lights out at this point, which would have been assault. She merely pointed and said words, and yet the man-boobs on this site find this unacceptable and start insults.


SMH

Yup. And we both know they'd be howling like banshees if it were their girlfriend or mother or sister it happened to. But somehow when a woman is put in a vulnerable and dangerous position by a sex offender, she's in the wrong for protecting herself. I don't know what some people are thinking, but that can behavior escalates quickly and dangerously. Just like it did. He didn't even back off when she did act in her own defense, but became even more aggressive. As if he had some right to enjoy her body. Ugh. Just so freaking creepy.

She did the right thing. It could have been so much worse.

I hope she comes back. She sure didn't need or deserve this crap on ATS. The abuse at the bar wasn't enough. Nope. The misogynists here had to pile on.

Good job, dudes

The guy is a sex offender now...like really. For crying out loud enough already. Why is this woman in a bar and drawing knives on people,why the # are you defending such reckless behavior.

Actually, this only happened to me after he tried to feel up on the other girls in the bar and got reprimanded for it. Did you miss the part about a giant fight breaking out over this guy's behavior? He was putting his hands on girls all night. He also didn't seem to care when I told him to go away and leave me alone, and he was trying to pick a fight with the other girls' father, too.

You can call it reckless, but he deserved it. Quite honestly, he was harassing everyone in the place and he deserves worse, but believe it or not, I'm not that violent a soul. My bartender can handle the ass-woopins.

Can you explain to me why the bar staff didn't handle this violent sex offender and left him to freely molest women in the establishment?

See update above.

I'm not going to read the thread again, if you want to explain why the bar staff let this alleged violent sex offender roam the bar I'm all ears.

a reply to: XxKonspiracyxX

You can clearly see in my earlier post:

Now i'm not saying this incident didn't happen and you weren't upset at it

So saying in reply to me

Does that mean I should be happy about the events that transpired beforehand?

means you didn't read it or you ignored it.

Well, forgive me for not living my entire life on the ATS forums.

Actually you are doing just that by making this post in the first place and looking for responses
You had enough time to make the original thread, it would not have been hard to write these last few lines:

Oh... also, I don't know how relevant this is, but the guy ended up coming back briefly. After my bartender led him away, he wandered back to the porch a few minutes later and kept trying to apologize to me. I told him it's fine, we're good, just go home and sleep it off. I must've said that like ten times because he hardly understood basic English at this point. Afterward, he wandered up the hill toward the apartments and stayed gone for the night.

and leave people with your full version of the incident, not the creative licence three quarters version you originally posted.

It is just as i posted earlier today in this thread:

There's always 3 sides to a story.

In this case, i) the OP's side, ii) the guy and iii) the truth.