Why does no one care that the ISIS caliphate was destroyed?

originally posted by: makemap

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Tartuffe

It wasn't destroyed just fragmented , the territory is gone but the ideal remains.

The caliphate is destroyed. The people who lived under its tyranny are liberated. No cause for celebration?

ISIS is not dead because the West is protecting them. There are still terror attacks going on. Just like how Nazism is still alive. There is nothing to clebrate about it.

Can you point to the caliphate on the map?

a reply to: Tartuffe

It would never effect me without me going looking for it. Thats my whole point.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Tartuffe

It would never effect me without me going looking for it. Thats my whole point.

That's true of the truth in general. I suppose that is a good point as to why people are not celebrating the defeat of this century's greatest threat.

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Tartuffe

It wasn't destroyed just fragmented , the territory is gone but the ideal remains.

The caliphate is destroyed. The people who lived under its tyranny are liberated. No cause for celebration?

According to the fake news, fake politicians, or fake DoD reports?

I'm not saying they are lying, but...

If there's one thing I know about the American politburo it's that either party can stick lip stick on a pig and change its name to Rosey.

We'll know how defeated the Taliban, Al Qada, ISIL, and ISIS truly are by the name of what the fake news calls them next.

If within 5 years Libya is being overturned and toppled by a group the media calls "The Sons and Daughters of the 12th Imam", I'd say we didn't do a very good job weeding that nonsense out.

It'll be the same exact asynchronous decentralized army, but with a hipper new name; additionally, Trump will likely give them the same courtesy he gave fellow Republicans and give them funny nicknames for Americans to pay it no attention - other than to immaturely laugh it over or act over dramatically outraged on Twitter between shots of gluteous maximus to the lip. Second sentence.

Of course, that scenario is only if they are given a new name. If there's no new name, I can honestly say:

Congrats fellow country persons, we finally ended the War on Terror!

a reply to: Grimpachi

When you create the daesh, then yes that is mission accomplished.

a reply to: GenerationGap

I'd like to add that ISIS's mission was very much mission accomplished. Well, maybe the mission of the ISIS fighter on the ground wasn't accomplished, but there was always a zero percent chance of that ever happening.

iSIS were nothing more than a proxy army, the West's version of mercenaries, for the Russians by care of Iran.

Russia wanted a mercenary army to fight in Syria so Putin had an excuse to put Russian military infrastructure and equipment deeply into Syria that will be a generational main stay. As a bonus, the skirmish drove a wedge between NATO and the Turkey, with Turkey becoming more friendly with Russia. But that naturally happens when the well built out Russian army becomes a direct neighboring power.

So if anyone is saying mission accomplished it's Russia. The people of Syria, it'll take them a long time before they ever celebrate and congratulate themselves for the past decade. Any people seen celebrating the terror experienced in Syria are most likely being paid by Assad with Russian currency to do so.

That's the kind of propaganda dictators dig the most, yo.

a reply to: Tartuffe

One of many. We've been at war for almost two decades. The American people are used to the fact that there will always be more islamists to kill. We know our troops are the best in the world and we don't have to pretend their job is done to boost them up because we know they know they aren't done, yet. Now we have to deal with the evil at home.

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: makemap

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Tartuffe

It wasn't destroyed just fragmented , the territory is gone but the ideal remains.

The caliphate is destroyed. The people who lived under its tyranny are liberated. No cause for celebration?

ISIS is not dead because the West is protecting them. There are still terror attacks going on. Just like how Nazism is still alive. There is nothing to clebrate about it.

Can you point to the caliphate on the map?

What Caliphate? Too many brainwashed Muslims wants a caliphate.

Here are the latest ISIS attacks. ISIS never disbanded. They just lost the battles over huge territory.





Don't watch American news.

Heres one from Australia

When ever America says the war is finished. It is never finished. Wait for the Eastern Hemisphere news.

a reply to: makemap

So, you watch RT? Ok, credibility to you, zero. Stop watching and start reading. Scour up every piece of information you can find and make your own truth.

originally posted by: Tartuffe
It wasn’t so long ago that ISIS territory was dramatically expanding in an attempted realization of its world-wide caliphate.

Impelled by its hatred of non-believers and the modern world, ISIS was on a path to genocide and world domination. It murdered, raped and pillaged the people as it did the land. Whoever did survive lived under theocratic tyranny, was made a sex slave, or was subject to threat and persecution. It burned books, churches, mosques, libraries and museums. It tortured, beheaded, and desecrated its prisoners, which it filmed for use in its propaganda. It inspired the insane to commit acts of terror all over the globe. This reign of terror destabilized the region and helped spur the ongoing migrant crisis.

But a ragtag group of brave Freedom fighters backed by a coalition of states and mercenary volunteers dealt a fatal blow to the Islamic State death cult, which was finally driven out of Syria like it was in Iraq. The people of Syria and Iraq are, after so many years, liberated from the menace that has effectively ruined the lives of countless millions.

Given their aspirations, ISIS was (and still might be) an existential threat to the entire globe. The mass graves, the ruined cities, the diaspora attest to their wickedness. But in this case the forces of good defeated the forces of evil.

So where is the celebration?

No one cares and no one remembers simply because government and their media partners don't what them to remember you will learn this over time just by taking an interest in world events and events within the USA.

The public remembers only what the govt and their media partners want them to remember and only for as long as they want them to remember it. Ask any expert in the field of mind control, marketing, advertising, media studies, Agenda roll out etc.

Who doesnt miss when Obama would call them ISIL?

He wouldn't even say ISIS....

He would tell the public, I am going after ISIL.

This guys play on words was very important and dangerous.

He would send troops out to attack ISIL, a sub group of ISIS.

ISIS got a pass from Obama or was it Osama.
they must be distinctly related.

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Tartuffe

It wasn't destroyed just fragmented , the territory is gone but the ideal remains.

The caliphate is destroyed. The people who lived under its tyranny are liberated. No cause for celebration?

The answer is simple. Trump made it a priority and was a driving force in destroying the caliphate. Therefore the media and those on the left ignore it. They can't quite bring themselves to support ISIS, but I suspect they would like to but don't think it would be acceptable publicly. Their world is quite simple really - anything Trump is involved in is bad - and when their is a conflict in their thinking, they choose to ignore it.

It's no more complicated than that.

a reply to: Tartuffe

aye the calipahte cant exist without territory and they lost it from allied attacks and thankfully they have been thrown to the winds !

Hopefully they never succeed in capturing enough territory to claim a caliphate again!

a reply to: UKTruth

TRump destroyed the caliphate ?

news to me I thought it was Russia and their intense bombing campaigns where the US didnt succeed that had brough an end to their territorial claims , as far as I remember I thought that the allies had stopped their territorial control before Trump was even in office ?

Im speaking about the territory claimed by the caliphate in Iraq and Syria

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
it is not destroyed...


"But a ragtag group of brave Freedom fighters"


communists, socialists, anarchists, anti-fascists

You talking about Portland?

haha That’s a far better comeback than I could have dreamed up!

a reply to: Tartuffe

You mean the Saudi special forces guys were dispersed when they realized they were not going to achieve the goals set for them by Saudi kingdom.. their true goal was to secure Iraq oilfields for Saudi masters and in Syria their goal was regime change and to secure land for pipeline to turkey so Saudi oil would get to Europe much more cheaply than carrying it to Europe via super tankers.

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Tartuffe

You mean the Saudi special forces guys were dispersed when they realized they were not going to achieve the goals set for them by Saudi kingdom.. their true goal was to secure Iraq oilfields for Saudi masters and in Syria their goal was regime change and to secure land for pipeline to turkey so Saudi oil would get to Europe much more cheaply than carrying it to Europe via super tankers.

No, I mean the Islamic State.

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Tartuffe

It would never effect me without me going looking for it. Thats my whole point.

That's true of the truth in general. I suppose that is a good point as to why people are not celebrating the defeat of this century's greatest threat.

the greatest threat to life on earth right now isnt ISIS

its capitalism , ISIS doesnt destroy the environment on the grand scale ISIS are a drop in the ocean of humanities problems

we are the keepers of our garden and we have squandered it and let it fall into chaos

originally posted by: sapien82

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Tartuffe

It would never effect me without me going looking for it. Thats my whole point.

That's true of the truth in general. I suppose that is a good point as to why people are not celebrating the defeat of this century's greatest threat.

the greatest threat to life on earth right now isnt ISIS

its capitalism , ISIS doesnt destroy the environment on the grand scale ISIS are a drop in the ocean of humanities problems

we are the keepers of our garden and we have squandered it and let it fall into chaos

Capitalism? But in the capitalist framework our lifespans have increased while global poverty, disease and violence have decreased.

a reply to: Tartuffe

aye in the short term humans have increased their longevity but at an expense, but look at the impact of such on the planet !

the loss of habitats, the pollution of our ecosystems, the detriment to the food chain
the depletion of ozone layer !

its a fact , capitalism will kill our species and our planet !
just so a handful of people can have power and wealth in the present!