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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
my theories are based in the ages old works keel and vallee
originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: james1947
Are they really? Chopped liver or not, he better have the lab time and/or IR&D funds to show something for those theories, no? MIT should ring him up. MIT Lightcraft - Silent, Model Plane
Or maybe he should ring up CERN??
Billions of dollars spent attempting to get two lousy protons to annihilate each at speeds approaching the speed of light; the world’s foremost engineering university can’t even envision technology beyond drones, but there are ‘theories’ and ‘working on nano scales’ of technology that usurps all that with a little warp drive? Ok, if you say so, but everyone else says no.
The star map, I can’t speak to how well vetted it is, but you’re absolutely correct in your assertion about the maths and probablities...problem is, how does one make such a giant leap of faith using the same fundamental maths (simple, irrevocable probability distribution functions) regarding ‘warp drives’/superluminal/FTL/_insert favorite parlance_?
Maybe CERN is a big cover to destroy the earth and MIT is filled with a bunch of teachers and no doers, but it really doesn’t fit too well with the second law of thermodynamics or the ‘path of least resistance’ or the law of conservation and many other tenets of science that would be the case. 100% that isn’t the case — because of science.
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: AlFeynman
ETH: extraterrestrial hypothesys, the most common and seriously overated theory to explain UFO sightings
IDH: interdimensional hypothesys, see the work of jacques vallee and john keel
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
"Do you not see a rather serious problem with this instance? Just how-in-the-hell did those ET's build anything? How do they manipulate tools?"
amazing! you somehow missed the entire point of my thread, despite litterally shoving it in your face:
ETH DOESN'T EXPLAINS ALL CASES! (and thanks to the similarity between all them, IDH also applies to the ETH sounding ones too)
Do you not see a rather serious problem with this instance? Just how-in-the-hell did those ET's build anything? How do they manipulate tools?
This is actually funny because I was playing (seriously "playing") around with idea and devices like that some 60+ years ago.
So...who's this "everyone else"? Perhaps you should do some reading and at least begin to catch up. try starting here: www.space.com... www.askamathematician.com... an-light/ www.youtube.com... These links talk about the Alcubierre Drive, this theory has been developed to the point that nano scale warp bubbles can be created, and, best of all, the energy requirements have been reduced from "the observable Universe" to the size of a Viking probe, and that work was done by NASA. There is even a gentleman in Nebraska that is developing a "Warp Drive" using exotic materials (specially designed "circuit boards") who claims to get a (very) small amount of "movement"...his stuff need a lot of work... So, there probably isn't many "informed" Physicists that will make the claim that "warp drive" isn't possible. And, many will also tell you it isn't practical...yet.
The actual star in question is probably a bit younger than Earth
sure it is kiddo
ETT: Something new...An upgrade to ETH. We now have the Extraterrestrial Theory. The hypothesis has been given more evidence and gained a modicum of proof. When we don't confuse the paranormal, with the "advanced normal", we find that ETH (or ETT) explains everything quite nicely.
I will leave this to you for now...Although, you might want to actually render your own interpretation of IDH so that we all know where you are coming from in that regard. Personally, it seen that both are confusing paranormal with normal. They seem to want to put ET in the same "box" with Casper (the friendly Ghost), and other inhabitants of the Hendecad. They also seem to tend to ignore that Human perception of events and objects change with time, so much so that old tales of "little people", Elves, fairies, even Angles are probably just different ways Humans have mistaken Extraterrestrials. Anyway, I am truly curious about this IDH, but, retired or no (somehow, even in retirement; I have several projects to juggle), I don't seem to have the time to properly read several books to gain an understanding. SO...IF you could direct me to an overview, a white paper, or something online that I can knock out in about 30 mins I be appreciative.
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
the same scientists that tought that N-rays and poliwater were a real thing?
hmmmm.....
wait a minute... did you just debunk yourself? how can a civilization have technology better than us, when they are "new arrivals"?
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
"ETT: Something new...An upgrade to ETH. We now have the Extraterrestrial Theory. The hypothesis has been given more evidence and gained a modicum of proof. When we don't confuse the paranormal, with the "advanced normal", we find that ETH (or ETT) explains everything quite nicely."
sure it is kiddo
its a very complex theory that can't just be explained in "one paper", you need to research
"hmmmm" indeed, you appear to be more than a bit confused. N-rays were a "thing" an gone before the time of any of the scientists mentioned, and, "poliwater" is a brand of high density polyethylene pipe. So...you were saying?
No, I didn't "debunk" myself...it is perfectly reasonable for a 3 billion year old planet to have evolved as far, or even a bit farther than Earth. If you check out Earth's history, and all the near extinction level events that have occurred (and the frequency) you can begin to understand that Earth may be a bit retarded. Ya know, it might help if you studied the ETH a bit more closely. You know, learn about planetary evolution, stellar class, and other related stuff.
Well unless you have data/evidence to the contrary...I guess it remains a "proven" hypothesis.
Yes, I'm sure it is a complex subject, but, I've seen a short paragraph that is a rather simplistic overview, I'm sure some could do better in several pages (less than 10). Okay, firstly; it is not a theory, it is a hypothesis. Second; I've seen subjects far more complex than what the overview I saw alludes to dealt with adequately in a "white paper". And, I made the suggestion that you write a paper defining your interpretation of IDH, not for my benefit, but, rather yours. I find it quite helpful to actually write (articulate) my ideas, that way I can refine and understand them better myself. Just a suggestion... Yes, I've researched both Keel and Vallee. That "powerful entity" isn't from another reality, its from this one! There is a long standing tradition of studying this "powerful entity" that exists in every single society that has ever existed on Earth, much of that tradition still exists today in various schools of thought. None of them teach "alternate realities/dimensions", but, that may just be a matter of perception. Although, much of those ancient traditions can be seen in today's science...like the methodology (which your system seems to lack).
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
i already did, in fact until some times ago, i thought it was the correct explanation but then i saw all the stuff that din't fit and it fell in shambles