This Entire world is not what it seems folks, I was "approached"

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: SisterDelirium

but the shadow things in our old place bloodied my nose, bruised my leg, and threw a chest of drawers at my youngest...among other things. Never enough to do too much harm, but certainly not harmless. Believe me or not...don't care, I know what happened to us.

Oh I believe it, I too encountered the actions of these beings one time years ago, again like many have stated no intake of any substance that could alter the mind. Until you experience it you don't really believe it, then theory becomes reality. Only with the out loud verbal expression of God's real name and the faith that it will work do you defeat them and send them away.

That is a fallen angel, otherwise known as a demon, they are now restricted to the time space of our earths vicinity, as part of the end times prophesy.
They are not allowed to kill, but they are allowed to influence, injure and mess with people.
And they are really angry right now because they know they are about to go into a dimensional jail that is the spirits realms version of solitary confinement for a 1000 years. Human version would be you are in jail but you are restricted to the jail facility thats right now. Imagine being a being that did not need to eat or sleep, being restricted like that then leveling it up to total solitary confinement 24/7 for 1000 years they know that is coming and from their perspective of time it's only days away.

Oh and that place has nothing to do with hell, because that place as the the Catholics defined it, never existed nor will it.

Hell does indeed exist. I know it really does, and it is worse than any human description. Perhaps it is better to believe that doesn't though. It's a deception to believe it doesn't exist though.

a reply to: DannyBoy555

As mentioned they operate and communicate on rare but specific frequencies. Humans aware of these frequencies can also detect other humans on them. Just sixth sense stuff.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Hell does indeed exist. I know it really does, and it is worse than any human description. Perhaps it is better to believe that doesn't though. It's a deception to believe it doesn't exist though.

You have no idea about God's true sense of justice and love then, the ultimate punishment can at the maximum only be death and non-existence, for humans born imperfect and subject to sin and these creatures we are talking about against them and influencing them, nothing warrants having a person being in intense pain for all eternity.
If an imperfect less intelligent parent wouldn't do it to his kids neither would God.
Hell is another scare tactic invented by the ancient church to scare and control people, funny thing is the people who taught it themselves were doing such evil things it showed that they themselves didn't believe it but were just using it against the ignorant. But that doesn't mean there are no consequences to persistent lapses in morality where people don't even try to change, because there are, and will be. But I find people that still believe in hell to have a vindictive nature.

originally posted by: DannyBoy555
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You can be NSA director, you can be Rothschild owner of the federal reserve, you are still nothing, just a guy living in a box, like the rest of us.

It probably wouldn't kill us to err on the side of caution and be good people instead of evil.

After dumping "religion", I became aware that we're all equal. Living in a box, but the entity that put us here loves all of us the same. That's why I have as much respect for the guy selling peanuts on the street corner, as the President of the United States. If they were standing side-by-side, I'd treat them both the same.

originally posted by: DannyBoy555
I don't use drugs, never did, not even pot.

I don't use medical drugs, rarely did things like antibiotics.

I drink rarely and not to get drunk.

I am not a crazy person either

I wanted to dabble in meditation but never had the time because of work and socialising, well recently I did try few forms of meditation both active and passive with eyes open and closed and so on.

I got approached TWICE at different locations as i prepared to meditate by what can only be described as shadow person.

It would walk over to me from a distance of say 15 yards and as it would stop moving it would dissolve and disappear but I got the distinct impression it was there just that it cloaked itself.

I never got impression of malevolence, just curiosity to see what is this human up to. I got approached twice but I got the feeling it was not a single entity.

Are we being studied ?
Are we being managed ?
Why the secrecy ?

I don't have evidence, I don't have pictures, I have no reason to make this up, I know what I saw TWICE

This makes me realise that we don't know jack about the reality we live in.

There is something out there, call it spirits, call it agent smith from the Matrix, call it djinn like Muslims do. We don't know jack.

It's like we live in a box, and these beings are outside of the box looking at us living in a box.

Oddly enough it makes me slightly happy knowing there is something out there more powerful and knowing than the US government and their alphabet agencies.

You can be NSA director, you can be Rothschild owner of the federal reserve, you are still nothing, just a guy living in a box, like the rest of us.

What's outside of the box

I think we have to pass on to find out.

It probably wouldn't kill us to err on the side of caution and be good people instead of evil.

Have come to the same conclusions myself, having myself "experienced" these shadow entities, and much more. I know that:

1. They could see us fully whereas we only see them as shadows.
2. They could interact with furniture from our "realm."
3. They are intelligent and react to us in real time.
4. Most important and sinister of all, they are obviously hiding from us.

This last is the clincher. Why are they hiding? Are they afraid of us? I don't think so. It is fairly obvious that they have the upper hand here. Which leads me to only one conclusion -- they are hiding from us because there is an aspect to our reality that we are not supposed to know. This triggers a TON of questions. Who is behind this? What are they hiding? What are we really? I think, whoever they are, they have established various failsafes to ensure that we never find out, or at least not in our terms.

I had a lucid experience with a shadow person. The others were in the dream world, many shadow "things" in the dream world. The one I still remember very vividly I was actually sleeping, about 16 years old, and I woke up out of a dead sleep, the kind of waking up that you just jolt awake, with hair standing up on the back of your neck. I looked up and saw a shadow figure hovering over me in the dark. I've never sat up so fast in my life! I nearly knocked my lamp over trying to turn it on, but of course the figure was gone. (don't think they like light very much)

Another very interesting experience my son had when he was about 3 still gives me shivers to this day. For a little background he had a speech delay and he didn't even talk at that age, he used isolated words, but not strung along in a sentence etc. He still struggles with speech to this day, which makes the entire thing even more bizarre. We were all asleep, at that time we had our son sleeping on a mattress on the floor beside us. All sleeping soundly, the bedroom door was shut. Out of nowhere our 3 year old sits up straight as an arrow and says in a fearful, but matter of fact voice, "Mommy, they are coming for us". First I was trying to process the fact that he just spit out that sentence, and then to proceed to ask him more. "Who hunny, who is coming for us?" "Mommy they are coming for us, under the door, the green it's coming for us"

Let's just say it was a very uneasy time to go back to sleep. The next day his speech went back to its usual self and I tried to get more out of him but that was that.

a reply to: DannyBoy555

Yeah shadow people are generally regarded as bad dudes. Be careful, you don't want them to start feeling comfortable around you.

a reply to: DannyBoy555

Try laying down on a soft bed and meditate, Try to feel your surroundings, motion of bed etc, Try to "notice" the little feet walking around. (Become aware, but stay still.)

I stopped meditating for a reason and turned away from such practices a few years back.

originally posted by: Shuye
At first I thought it was another newcomer hoax thread but it was a very interesting read...

I never got approached, but some of my friends did... and "they" are driving one of my friend's mom quite mad (literally)

I like the box metaphor you have used... Just like we look on fish living in two dimensions, I believe we are watched by beings of higher dimensions which we cannot sense with this body... some say they are spirits waiting to come back to a new body, but whatever their motives they definitely exist... Some can perceive them and most others don't.

How odd you mentioned this today! I JUST walked my son, a 14 year old HS freshman, through a thought experiment using a piece of paper and the 2-Dimensional man.

How coincidental.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: DannyBoy555

Now thats rather disturbing

Edit wrong thread. Trying to post on Hilary thread.

Wanted to add my 2 cents.

Shadow People are something that has fascinated me and my group of friends in the past year (we like to openly discuss the paranormal) and I've had my own experiences with them like others. I had massively life changing experiences on Psychedelics around 5 years ago - sort a 'renewal out of destruction' scenario, yet the most pressing aspect was becoming aware of the 'other', the non visible entities that exist in our reality, I believe I've been deep enough that these days I just notice them almost constantly, like they know I know but I don't care and ignore them.

This one time though earlier in the year really sticks out, I was at a friends house with 3 other really close friends and we had all taken a relaxed dose of L S D and we're deep into chats about the 'other' as we searched for unknown truths by putting all of our understandings out there (Done this a lot of the years) and shadow people became a hot topic. We all agreed they we're out they're and there was this energy of collectively rising above 'it'. We made some interesting links between 'Gargoyles' being intrinsically linked to their existence - the 'watchers' so to speak.

I was in deep conversation with 1 of my friends across the table whilst the other 2 were in their own as well, I'm talking like the type of conversation that has gone back and forth continually for over 30 mins when all of a sudden, all 4 of us seemingly stopped our next word and turned to a spot of the garden to see what appeared to be a figure move quickly across the back fence from a part which was in the light to the dark. I had one really skeptic friend there and thats the first time he admitted in himself I think, what was more intriguing is the manner in which we all stopped and looked.
It was almost like for 1 instance of a second we we're collectively a fraction of a second ahead of it its awareness and it slipped up, and our natural instincts alerted all of us to a presence the second it was there.

A wise friend said of the shadow people 'They've been there as long as we have'.

I've also heard about the brimmed hat man from an acquaintance who mentioned he'd seen him in his doorway before. Also, I'm fairly sure I've got clear photo evidence of a 'shadow person' that comes from another close friend, only like 50 people have probably seen this photo in total, but if you guys wan't to see I'll dig it up! Its really interesting.

I like shadow people they give the best hugs at night

Do we know what frequency they exist on? I'm about to buy an infra-red lense for my camera

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Instead, I think you quit and let them win.

I think you're probably right about that. I am excited to approach this realm again now that I have a bit more life XP and know more what to expect.

I am really curious what technique of meditation the OP was using. I really want to learn how to meditate so I can transcend this reality and get back on my path to enlightenment.

The power of the mind is epic, perhaps yor sub-conscience is trying to communicate something?

Personally I believe we're blocked to the things we don't believe, so no shadow people in my world

a reply to: DannyBoy555

Can you describe this shadow figure?

Like in full detail every single part of this figure? How did it walk and or move? Did it react to weather? Light? Did it cast a shadow? How tall was it? Did it appear to be human or animal? Did it have any particularly odd forms or identifiable marks on it at all? Did this shadow figure appear mist like or fog like? Was it transparent or translucent? If you could touch it what do you think it would have felt like? Was there any sound? Words? Noises? Where did it originate from like behind a wall or out of a car.

Details?

i think shadow people are the greys. They cloak themselves by clouding minds with their telepathic abilities. The more aware ones "third eye" is, the less completely they can cloud ones mind. Meditation helps to focus this part of the brain.

Thats my hypothesis anyhow.

I find posts like this...with this kind of information such a welcome change from the usual political threads. I personally am not sure what is true. We may simply be animals that are born, die and everything ceases at that point. We may be simple. But I also see it is possible that we are sharing reality with other creatures which we aren't continually aware of. I wouldn't be surprised if government is aware of them and is suppressing the information "for our safety". It is almost a 50/50 coin flip that our reality is simple...or complex.

For the complex reality, the farthest I've gotten is this. Our reality could be a combination of our dimension and another dimension that occasionally "touch". We are not formally aware of this, but the creatures in the other dimension are aware of this...as are our governments to some degree. When these different realities "touch", we can glimpse beings that are not from our place...our world or our time. We see ghosts, spirits or shadow people. And likely there are those from the other side that explore us and our world. There is something about this situation that scares our governments...and our religions. It could be that there is actual danger or it could be that they don't want to lose power. I'm not sure.

I've come to this belief (of which I'm only about 60% convinced) by a very simple manner. I look at all the weirdness in the world, all the religions, spooky, magical and unknown things and ask myself one simple question. What single explanation would cover all these items? Yes...aliens may be aliens. Yes...ghosts may be the spirit of the dead. And yes...red eyed monsters may exist. But it (to me) makes so much more sense that we are simply glimpsing into another world (or multiple worlds) filled with creatures different from ourselves.

Anyway...thanks for this thread. It is always good to remember what ATS was, instead of the political battlefield it has become.

originally posted by: Reverbs
I think I was being recruited to open gateways specifically..
It's all so way over my head..
I played some cards I thought were aces and they weren't even 2s..
good thing I didn't go all in.

and specifically I remember this being a point.. About people who are not afraid.. Worded as those who are "not superstitious" to me.

Claimed to want peace and a merging of the worlds.. Whatever that means.

The demonic entity will 'suggest' to your thoughts that you are pulling aces whilst they exploit your mind to open up the portal, thereby allowing their conrads access to this real world.

The mortals who are not afraid are the ones who have witnessed multiple hells. This way, the evil that naturally radiates from these negative entities is nothing compared to the 'feelings' of hell itself.

Lets just say, the word 'infinity' becomes reality in hell. There are no physical limitations down there. Physical fear and torture on this world is paradise compared to the infinite pain down there.

They want to co-exist among humans. The problem is many of them will return to their customary ways of making humans suffer followed by them 'feeding' off the misery. Ibir means 'Cross-Over' hence Nibiru is what this world is about to merge with.

The TV Series 'Defiance' shows this world merging with blond, pale face, pointy ear people. In other words, the 'elder', 'elves', Nordics, fallen watchers want to coexist with humans whilst Yahushua terminates their home world.