Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill

originally posted by: Tardacus
The saudis are real scared now,that Trump guy that might get elected as president has them scared as well as the fact that america is now the number 2 oil exporter in the world.The saudis are scared that they no longer can use oil to hold the america by the balls, and then theres the threat of Trump getting elected.The #z getting real now.

why should they be scared of trump ?

We know that the government had something to do with the Saudi's and that the Saudi's had something to do with 911. Why else would the Federal Government cover this up as will as secret flights of Saudi's out of the country during the "No Fly" restriction after 911.

Here is just one of those cover-ups.

www.sptimes.com...

a reply to: syrinx high priest

Because Trump has stated he would release the 911 documents. To find out who was behind 911. Trump stated "We may find out it was the Saudi's".

Trump isn't a bought off whore like the rest of them given billions by the Saudi's.

a reply to: Profusion



Ditch the bill. Simply released that missing chapter on their involvement.

If they want to play "chicken," let's....

When Obama and Ryan are on the same page

does that prove that the politicians are working for the people

Or

That both establishments are against the people? Then the only candidate outside of the establishment appears to be Trump. Don't confuse Sanders raw deal becomes he's anti establishment. It's just is Clinton IS the establishment. If Clinton wasn't running, don't think for a second that the Democratic Party would be lined up behind Sanders. If Sanders was out of the establishment loop, he wouldn't have had so many democratic Chairmanships

Not that saudi involvement in 9/11 is new to anyone, what is new is that the saudis plead guilty by trying to blackmail te US in order not to pass a bill that makes it possible to prosecute those involved.
And why would Obama try to block it? is he not the president of all those US citizens who lost their loved ones during 9/11?

a reply to: earthling42

Obama and most of the candidates are going to continue doing heroic deeds in the middle east at the expense of others lives. But they won't be going after the actual perpetrators. The ones in the suppressed documents? The ones bribing them? Blackmailing?

"Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets"

Really...? I might not know how all the particulars work, but it seems to me that it might be a herculean task selling the Assets and not loosing their rears with the likely bargain basement prices they would be offered. Seems a lot of assets and debt in the US is simply Fiat Money anyway.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Siddharta
a reply to: luthier

You should think about your position in life again. Maybe you could be a nice guy and helpful to others.
Right now you seem to defend your position as - a very bad person, I may not call by it's name because of the rules of this board. Keep trying to find the truth!

Oh I have. Maybe you should get from behind your computer and travel some to get a clue before you start making judgements about people yourself.

I spent 6 months in India when I was 19. Went to Bihar while I was there though you probably need to open an atlas to figure out why I even mentioned this.

When I was in college for my philosophy degree I was a division 1 NCAA wrestler and was an alternate on the US judo team. I went to Russia, Turkey, and Abu Dhabi for judo and BJJ.
The last 15 years I have been a coach for kids and adults judo and wrestling. I teach wrestling afterscool, purposely at one of the crappiest schools in South Carolina for free. Where I also teach antibullying tacticts. Thats just for charity. I am a sound engineer and guitar maker for a living.

So try again bud. Maybe read up in your avatar or try Jainism if that's not working for you.

Saudi Arabia is a filthy nasty place as far as people go. Seeing as I saw first hand what women have to do when they compete even in Abu Dhabi I can tell you your idealism is what gets women raped in Europe. Some people just suck. Saudi Arabia is full of those people.

pwned

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: StallionDuck

Question:

How would Saudi benefit from 9/11?

If anyone has any info on why Saud would do this, I'm interested.


1st answer - Money

2nd answer - Willingness to do it.

Yeah, somehow I don't think it works that way in the real world. It's not that simple. Show me the money.... That would be them benefiting and there is no link to mad amounts of money. They already have untold billions. It would require much more than they already have to make it worth their wild.

Show me something serious and real. If it was just about money and willingness, more people would be robbing banks.

Um, look what the US has done to the ME since 9-11. If you don't think saudi is benefitting from all of their oil competitors, especially Hussein's Iraq, being destabilized or sanctioned I would suggest looking more into it.

President Saddam Hussein of Iraq today openly threatened to use force against Arab oil-exporting nations if they did not curb their excess production, which he said had weakened oil prices and hurt the Iraqi economy.

link

originally posted by: pikestaff

originally posted by: StallionDuck
Question:

How would Saudi benefit from 9/11?

Terrorist cells would have their own twisted purpose but why would a country get involved? What was their MO? Surely they would have to have some kind of motivating factor.

Very easily, when the airline's stocks plummeted after 9 11, those in the know were ready to buy and buy and buy, a month later, stocks back to normal, so sell a few stocks per week, it has been estimated that the Bin ladens made $20 million, Allah only knows what the saudi's made.

So...you are suggesting that they orchastrated 9-11 in order to make a paltry few million in profits when they have billions in the bank?

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: luthier

Listen. I hate stupid people. When I see stupid things I get all in a tizzy so please forgive me for saying,

You know what's funny, just not funny haha?

Your average Saudi citizen would say they're secular in nature.

You know what else is funny? Ask any Jew in Israel about Judaism versus Islam, you know what they say? They're secular in nature. ....

That's how I know you are full of #.

I know your full of # because you have never travelled to a place where the people are definitely not secular. No most Saudis are not secular. Your absolutley ignorant to reality.

This has nothing to do with Islam. This is nasty wahibis.

Like I said Jordan, Syria hell Lebanon Turkey Indonesia they all have normal moderate people. Saudis actually are mostly barabaric. It's not just the government. The citizens themselves are brutal.

I guess you would rather be ignorant and believe everybody is good.

Maybe look up some amnesty, human. Rights watch or anything that has to do with Saudi culture. Better yet get on a plane and get back to me.

Utter utter utter utter bullsh*t. You are telling me that most of the populace there is barbaric? Somehow there is a country where most people have turned out that way?

Well..you are wrong. How do I know? I lived there for 12 years. And the majority of the people there where exactly as most are in the middle east, which is generous to a fault, friendly and very welcoming.

The house of Saudi are relics and asses though.

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: luthier

Listen. I hate stupid people. When I see stupid things I get all in a tizzy so please forgive me for saying,

You know what's funny, just not funny haha?

Your average Saudi citizen would say they're secular in nature.

You know what else is funny? Ask any Jew in Israel about Judaism versus Islam, you know what they say? They're secular in nature. ....

That's how I know you are full of #.

I know your full of # because you have never travelled to a place where the people are definitely not secular. No most Saudis are not secular. Your absolutley ignorant to reality.

This has nothing to do with Islam. This is nasty wahibis.

Like I said Jordan, Syria hell Lebanon Turkey Indonesia they all have normal moderate people. Saudis actually are mostly barabaric. It's not just the government. The citizens themselves are brutal.

I guess you would rather be ignorant and believe everybody is good.

Maybe look up some amnesty, human. Rights watch or anything that has to do with Saudi culture. Better yet get on a plane and get back to me.

Utter utter utter utter bullsh*t. You are telling me that most of the populace there is barbaric? Somehow there is a country where most people have turned out that way?

Well..you are wrong. How do I know? I lived there for 12 years. And the majority of the people there where exactly as most are in the middle east, which is generous to a fault, friendly and very welcoming.

The house of Saudi are relics and asses though.

Are you female?

If your from the West you lived in your own little world in a seperate part of the country. You most likely had escorts take you around. I have a friend who is a teacher there. He can't stand it. His wife was not even allowed to come over with him.

Yes they are generous. But don't follow the rules and you end up whipped for having wine.
It's also not just the government that stones woman it's villagers.

When I was in Dubai and Abu Dhabi with a whole CO Ed team we had to be extremely careful of the woman. That is even more modern than Saudi Arabia.

The time has come for bitter things. . .

Is this the same Saudi Arabia that spends MILLIONS of dollars sending missionaries around the world to spread wahhabism and salafism ? Saudi Arabia is DIRECTLY responsible for the ideology that created so many terrorists worldwide. Radical and Political Islamism of the salafist flavor to counter the Muslim Brotherhood version that they are both competing with and both have their hand in created Al qaeda as a result. Saudi Arabia was giving millions of dollars to al qaeda right before Sept 11 happened. They only quit because George W Bush made it clear, you're either with us, or against us.....They got the memo but too late.

a reply to: RetsuUnohana

You're either with us or your with the terrorists

a reply to: Thenail

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia does the Harlem Shake.

"Con los terroristas" but in dirkadir.

Ofcourse the Saudis were involved in 9/11 hence why they are having a little tantrum about this bill.

The Royal Family and Saudi gov has been protected for long enough, its about time they are held responsible for all the terrorism financing, human right violations and International laws they continue to break.

Obama block...ofcourse because he is a paid off pawn with no balls.

Will the truth ever come out... I hope so but highly doubt it.

Funny really.., I thought the US governments policy was not too negotiate with terrorists..... HA.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: luthier

Listen. I hate stupid people. When I see stupid things I get all in a tizzy so please forgive me for saying,

You know what's funny, just not funny haha?

Your average Saudi citizen would say they're secular in nature.

You know what else is funny? Ask any Jew in Israel about Judaism versus Islam, you know what they say? They're secular in nature. ....

That's how I know you are full of #.

I know your full of # because you have never travelled to a place where the people are definitely not secular. No most Saudis are not secular. Your absolutley ignorant to reality.

This has nothing to do with Islam. This is nasty wahibis.

Like I said Jordan, Syria hell Lebanon Turkey Indonesia they all have normal moderate people. Saudis actually are mostly barabaric. It's not just the government. The citizens themselves are brutal.

I guess you would rather be ignorant and believe everybody is good.

Maybe look up some amnesty, human. Rights watch or anything that has to do with Saudi culture. Better yet get on a plane and get back to me.

Utter utter utter utter bullsh*t. You are telling me that most of the populace there is barbaric? Somehow there is a country where most people have turned out that way?

Well..you are wrong. How do I know? I lived there for 12 years. And the majority of the people there where exactly as most are in the middle east, which is generous to a fault, friendly and very welcoming.

The house of Saudi are relics and asses though.

Are you female?

If your from the West you lived in your own little world in a seperate part of the country. You most likely had escorts take you around. I have a friend who is a teacher there. He can't stand it. His wife was not even allowed to come over with him.

Yes they are generous. But don't follow the rules and you end up whipped for having wine.
It's also not just the government that stones woman it's villagers.

When I was in Dubai and Abu Dhabi with a whole CO Ed team we had to be extremely careful of the woman. That is even more modern than Saudi Arabia.

No. I'm not female and we didn't live on the compounds if that is what you are talking about. No escorts either and as for the whipping...that's not done by the general population which is who im defending.

Stop spreading lies and hatred please. I

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