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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: Xcathdra
West wants to isolate Russia, to divide it and allow its natural resources to be exploited by the business that dictates American foreign policy. Hence the reason for the US supported Maidan coup in Kiev.
This 411 to 10 vote margin is 98%, and it contrasts starkly against the 62% of Americans who, in the most recent poll, opposed sending U.S. arms to the Ukrainian Government; 30% favored sending those weapons. (8% had no opinion.) (The above link includes also that poll-result.) So, 67% of those who had an opinion (62% divided by 92% is 67%) shared the view of the 10 members (2%) of the U.S. House who voted against this measure. Only 33% of the surveyed Americans who had an opinion on it shared the view of the 411 House members (98%) who voted in favor of this measure.
originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Former congressman Ron Paul has lashed out at the resolution the House passed against Russia, branding it “one of the worst pieces of legislation ever.” It could even pave the way for a potential war with Russia, as it was with Iraq, he warns.
Resolution 758 strongly condemns the actions of Russia under Vladimir Putin, for what it describes as a policy of “aggression against neighboring countries,” in a motion that describes Moscow’s political and economic domination in the region.
However, Ron Paul says the bill was nothing but “16 pages of war propaganda that should have made even neocons blush.”
Speaking to RT, Paul added that the resolution was "part of the war propaganda machine."
"It’s this kind of stuff that stirs up trouble. I’d rather dissipate the problems and have our government tone the rhetoric down a little bit. This was terrible; this was just a very provocative resolution," he said.
rt.com...
Oh no! It's Ron Paul making too much damn sense again! We can't have that now, can we?
Well yes, we can. Even though our dumbass leaders in Congress overcame disputes about virtually everything else to vote in strong favor.
Recently Russia warned that there are consequences for provoking a nuclear power. And Russia seems to be backing up that warning recently also with increased, long range bombing training exercises in our own backyard.
What I am waiting for is for NATO to make that very wrong and provocative move of putting a substantial ground force to contest Russia's actions in Ukraine or elsewhere. Let it come as no surprise when they get wiped off the face of the earth with a tactical nuke. Russia has stated they will do this without hesitation if threatened, and they are not playing the conventional arms race game any longer.
Also, there is a lot more discussion in that video, so check it out. He points out so many more things, and especially how both the Reps and Dems foreign policy is so, so far from a more constitutional, non-interventionalist policy. Play with fire and you're going to get... nuked.
The Odessa fire
Media have published an audio recording, which may indicate a direct involvement of a colleague of ex-governor in Odessa Vladimir Nemirovsky to the tragedy of May 2nd. Nemirovsky headed the Odessa region at the time.
The recorded conversation allegedly took place on May 2 and presumably between the head of the department for cooperation with law enforcement agencies of the regional administration Igor Bolyanskim and coordinator of the self-defense "Euromaidan forces" Dmitry Gumenyuk. During the conversation Bolyansky asked Gumenyuk to divert his people to the Kulikovo Field, said the publication "Timer".
On November 27 the Primorsky District Court of Odessa began the proceeding of the criminal case on trumped-up charges of rioting on May 2 the people who have actually suffered. The Anti-Maidan people are accused in burning like-minded people - in other words themselves.
the number of Americans favoring military involvement rose to 9%, and only 19% thought the United States should take no action, whereas a solid 71% favored sanctions.
We found 36 invasions!
From Sarah Palin to John McCain, from the NYT to the BBC, - Google delivers over 1.3 million results.
Its so old and worn out, people are tuning out to the "boy who cried wolf."
It's only the past dozen years that really count.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: Xcathdra
West wants to isolate Russia, to divide it and allow its natural resources to be exploited by the business that dictates American foreign policy. Hence the reason for the US supported Maidan coup in Kiev.
Funny... you seem to think Ukraine is a part of Russia. You really need to brush up on your history. Oh, and Assad is a secularist in name only. He is an Alawite, and favors his fellow Alawites in governmental and military appointments. The Alawites are a minority in Syria, which is why he is unpopular with the Sunni majority. His goal seems to be to reduce the Sunni population so that the Alawites become the majority sect. Russia seems happy to help.
the third floor
originally posted by: rickymouse
We don't have to worry, congressmen probably have a big bunker under their office buildings on capital hill. Our leadership will survive a nuclear war.
Why don't we return to the actual topic of the thread?
The open part of the meeting was held in Ukrainian, but when the government passed to the closed part of its meeting Yatsenyuk had to speak different languages. At first he started speaking English and finally passed to Russian. Health Minister Alexander Kvitashvili, an ethnic Georgian, who lacks Ukrainian language skills made the premier take this step, the daily reported.
Lavrov: Why don’t the BBC and CNN show "Russian troops in Ukraine"?
Ukraine crisis: Russian mothers of killed and captured soldiers ask 'why are our sons fighting in Ukraine?'
Reckless Congress 'Declares War' on Russia
Was it written in the Budapest Memorandum that the US can overthrow a democratically elected government in Ukraine?
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or
political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind;
The Maidan Snipers Massacre (democratic revolution), the Odessa Massacre, the Mariupol Massacre, the Lugansk bombing, the MH17 downing, the use of cluster bombs, ballistic missiles, white phosphorus and heavy artillery are all US provocations.
How long will the ukrainians accept their old-new millionaire leaders? The last nail in the coffin of "independent ukraine" is the unconstitutional move of the chocolate king poroshenko to appoint foreigners as ukrainian ministers.
Ukrainian governemnt switches to Russian language for minister-foreigner's sake — media
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: maghun
Why don't we return to the actual topic of the thread? Ron Paul is no different than the isolationists who wanted Nazism and Communism to destroy each other in what you would call "the Great Patriotic War."
and the 3rd one Putin was doing when Yanukovych was in office
“Recall the phone exchange between the Ukraine ambassador and Victoria Nuland (Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs) that got leaked out, where she basically said ‘we want Yats in there.’ They like him because he’s pro Western,” says Vladimir Signorelli, president of boutique investment research firm Bretton Woods Research LLC in New Jersey. “Yatsenyuk is the the kind of technocrat you want if you want austerity, with the veneer of professionalism,” Signorelli said. “He’s the type of guy who can hobnob with the European elite. A Mario Monti type: unelected and willing to do the IMFs bidding,” he said.
without using Russian media
Relatives of MH17 crash victims, angered by what they see as Dutch mishandling of inquiries into the disaster, want a special U.N. envoy to launch an international investigation.
A letter sent to Prime Minister Mark Rutte on Friday, a copy of which was seen by Reuters, said Dutch officials had failed to build a case. They asked that inquiries by the Safety Board and prosecution service be handed over to the United Nations.
Rutte should "request the U.N. to appoint a special envoy to take over," said the letter written by Van der Goen Attorneys.
And you have a problem with that, why?