Israeli Naval Ship Bombs Palestinian Children on Gaza Beach - Killing Four

originally posted by: sputniksteve
I just can't even wrap my head around that claim.

It is very simple. Hamas terrorists have been attacking Israel with rockets for years. Israel is allowed to defend itself by attacking rocket launchers. Hamas terrorists are cowards, and fire these from places next to civilians, or use civilians as human shields. So when Israel defends itself by attacking rocket launchers some civilians may be killed. if they stayed away from the rocket launchers, and stayed away from the Hamas terrorists they would not get attacked.

You do not want to understand the facts, you just want to whine about Israel.

a reply to: hellobruce


Think about this as if it was 2 normal people, Bob(Israel) and John(Palestine) are neighbors, Bob is a big guy and should not be messed with whereas John is small and doesn't really know how to fight. One day Bob kicks through Johns fence and declares that Johns garden now belongs to him because of a magic 2000 year old book, John shocked and not knowing what to do hits Bob in the face. Bob, not really fazed by it, reacts by exploding into violence giving John the ass whooping of a lifetime, broken jaw, left in a wheelchair just basically a mess. But wait a minute Bob ain't finished yet he proceeds to stomp the snot outta Johns wife and kids, all the while Bobs family have whipped out deck chairs and popcorn and are cheering him on.

What would happen to Bob in a court of law? Would he be labeled as a psychopath?

originally posted by: sosobad
, Bob(Israel) and John(Palestine) are neighbors, Bob is a big guy and should not be messed with whereas John is small and doesn't really know how to fight. One day Bob kicks through Johns fence and declares that Johns garden now belongs to him,

Except of course Israel has not been in Gaza for years...

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: sosobad
, Bob(Israel) and John(Palestine) are neighbors, Bob is a big guy and should not be messed with whereas John is small and doesn't really know how to fight. One day Bob kicks through Johns fence and declares that Johns garden now belongs to him,

Except of course Israel has not been in Gaza for years...

Did I mention Gaza?



What should and would happen to Bob?

originally posted by: sosobad
Did I mention Gaza?

Well, this is what this is all about, the rocket attacks on Israel from Hamas terrorists in Gaza....

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: sosobad
Did I mention Gaza?

Well, this is what this is all about, the rocket attacks on Israel from Hamas terrorists in Gaza....

And why are those rockets coming from Gaza? You are avoiding answering the question I posted for obvious reasons.

originally posted by: sosobad
And why are those rockets coming from Gaza?

Gaza is governed by Hamas terrorists, and it is in their charter that they will destroy Israel. So they constantly attack Israel, and when Israel defends itself some people like to post defending Hamas terrorists.

Of course you will ignore this fact.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: sosobad
And why are those rockets coming from Gaza?

Gaza is governed by Hamas terrorists, and it is in their charter that they will destroy Israel. So they constantly attack Israel, and when Israel defends itself some people like to post defending Hamas terrorists.

Haha still not answering, your silence shows that even you don't believe the nonsense you spout off, cheers for showing me that

a reply to: hellobruce

All due to Hamas terrorists - I wonder how much they care about the death and destruction they caused.

What death and destruction? There have been three Israeli deaths, yet there have been over 300 Palestinian deaths and there has been very little destruction caused by Hamas rockets as compared to the destruction unleashed by Israeli airstrikes and ground assault.

originally posted by: Kram09
What death and destruction? There have been three Israeli deaths, yet there have been over 300 Palestinian deaths

So Hamas do not care about the 300 deaths their actions caused?

a reply to: hellobruce

So Hamas do not care about the 300 deaths their actions caused?

What are you smoking mate?

They were killed by Israelis.

How can 300 people be killed - a large number of them civilians - and somehow all the blame be on them?

originally posted by: Kram09
How can 300 people be killed - a large number of them civilians - and somehow all the blame be on them?

The blame is put on the Hamas terrorists - as they are the ones attacking Israel. If Hamas had not attacked Israel then no one would be dead - what part of that do you not want to understand?

a reply to: hellobruce

The blame is put on the Hamas terrorists - as they are the ones attacking Israel.

So that justifies the collective punishment of Palestinians? The wanton destruction and indiscriminate bombing, including of women and children as well as the destruction of numerous homes?

You mean Hamas attacking Israel after Israel has accused Hamas (without any proof I might add) of the murder of those three Israeli teenagers. Let's face it, the Israelis just seized upon their murders as an excuse to attack the Palestinians.

a reply to: sosobad

Was there not an attempt to live side by side, under Mandatory Palestine? Even when the Peel Commission suggested to create 2 states, after many revolts and terror attacks from both sides; with an international capital city, it was in terms of ground share, largely in favour of the Palestine people? From research the Jews actually wanted this, a legitimate sovereignty in their eyes. It's a shame that at the time, Palestine was lead by someone who wanted the complete removal of the population. After WWII, this idea for a Jewish state was obviously going to be promoted and expanded as an apology for the trouble. Point being, could this have been prevented before it started?

originally posted by: Kram09
You mean Hamas attacking Israel after Israel has accused Hamas

What about these in 2014??

In January, Palestinian Militants launched 22 rockets and four mortar shell at Israel in 19 separate attacks
In February, Palestinian Militants launched nine rockets at Israel in seven separate attacks
In March, Palestinians launched 65 rockets and mortar shell, in 23 attacks
In April, There were 19 rockets and 5 mortar shell in 14 attacks towards Israel
In May 4 rockets and 3 mortar shells were launched from Gaza in 5 attacks towards Israel
In June about 53 rockets and a mortar shell were launched from Gaza in about 17 attacks towards Israel
In July several hundred were fired So Israel is not allowed to defend itself against these attacks?

Or 2013 en.wikipedia.org...
2012 en.wikipedia.org...
2011 en.wikipedia.org...

etc etc.

a reply to: hellobruce

So that justifies the collective punishment of Palestinians? The wanton destruction and indiscriminate bombing, including of women and children as well as the destruction of numerous homes?

What about the rest of my comment above that you chose to ignore.

Do these rocket attacks justify the collective punishment of Palestinians?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Rosha
900 hundred thousand Palestinians are without water 58 thousand children in need of immediate psycho-social support having witnessed deaths, been injured themselves or made orphan.

All due to Hamas terrorists - I wonder how much they care about the death and destruction they caused..

Don't you think it is time they stopped attacking Israel and made peace - or do you want to see more dead people.

More twisted abuser logic.
I'm not entertaining your shilling anymore bruce. The truth is speaking for itself and the entire world knows exactly whats going on here. Keep singing louder and louder, the screams of murdered children only rise higher and higher. Israel is sick, it is lost, it has fallen to right wing agenda. It's loss, the worlds people, the authors and poets and thinkers and bloggers and anyone with half a conscience left, stand with the children of Gaza.

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: hellobruce

It's almost becoming comical how you can say that bullets and artillery shells shot out of Israeli rifles and cannons that in turn kill Palestinians, leave Hamas directly responsible for those deaths. I just can't even wrap my head around that claim. You are on a whole new level of "WTF" dude.

It's called delusional thinking, like when he said that Israel murdering 4 of my countrymen serving in a UN outpost was an accident. It was an intentional attack, just like when Israel intentionally bombed Syria and Iraq, and the USS Liberty. Israel's foreign policy is ultra-aggressive, hostile and reckless. And yet some people still want to pretend that IDF bunnies are driving around in cloud tanks shooting rainbows at dirty terrorists.

originally posted by: Vovin
It's called delusional thinking, like when he said that Israel murdering 4 of my countrymen serving in a UN outpost was an accident.

Where did I claim it was a accident? Why do you make crap up?

a reply to: hellobruce


You do realize Israel kills innocent children and women on purpose in order to antagonize and terrorize the Palestinian people which results in anguish that leads to bottle rockets (which do nothing) being launched into Israel?

Here's the link of the two teenagers having the life snuffed out of them because of the Israel sniper 's disgusting hate for Palestine. Go ahead and fight Hamas for political reasons but don't go kill children.

www.theguardian.com...

btw, I have tons of links of videos and photos of children being murdered systematically by IDF even when there is a peace truce. You do realize that the IDF kills children and women everyday? You do realize that the IDF does things to humiliate and demean ordinary innocent Palestinian people every day; not just when there is conflict?

Just imagine somebody s******** on you every day and then one day you cannot take it anymore and fight back but get your arse kicked even more; then somebody else comes along and says to you, "you shouldn't have thrown that punch, you deserved it!"

I am grateful that most the world does not see things the way you do. Imagine how much more fudged up it would be if they did...?