Ryland: A transgender 6 yr old; lovable, or demon-possessed?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: thesaneone
(Sigh)

I wish the parents would have left her the way she was born and let her make the choice when she was old enough.

They haven't done anything physical to the child, but let him choose to be himself. They haven't done any surgery or anything.

Quite correct. As the family said in the vid, they thought that it was just a phase, but she became more and more insistent that she is a little boy as time passed, it did not subside. So, he is happy now and as the pictures show, he totally loves being a boy and doing boy's things.

His sexual orientation at this point is still moot. When he hits puberty he might realize he loves his boobs etc and turn into one of those fabulous elly mae clampett type straight girls and embrace his female gender, or he might realize he likes girls. Its too early to tell yet, the worst thing people can do right now is label and judge. Ryland is just a happy, if not slightly offbeat little boy right now.

originally posted by: [post=18001728]Alchemst7[/post

What if the transgender issue is a reincarnation memory of your past gender?

That is an interesting thought. Reincarnation is obviously outside the realm of christian belief in that we believe we go somewhere else (heaven) when we are reawakened.

However, interestingly enough I've had some colouful friends over the years, including gifted psychics. One of whom specialised in past life regression. She was very insistent that I had been a female in some of my past lives and that my soul was feminine, not masculine, hence why I am a gay male today.

I never really believed it to be honest, but if she were miraculously correct, then you might be right.

a reply to: markosity1973

She was very insistent that I had been a female in some of my past lives and that my soul was feminine, not masculine, hence why I am a gay male today.

I never really believed it to be honest, but if she were miraculously correct, then you might be right.

I don't see it as 'miraculous', but an outgrowth of the fact that we are all connected.

Some of us are more tuned in than others - and it's all good. We need each other, it helps to have others off of which to bounce things.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

In my view, it's not so much that god chose the 'right parents', but Ryland did....before incarnating. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I was just thinking about this. It is almost as if he wanted to have the experience of a transgendered life as so many now do, but without the back story that 95% of transgendered have to suffer through.

a reply to: awakendhybrid

My beliefs would posit that he came to the family of his birth for the benefit of ALL of them. (I believe we choose where/to whom to be born, either for us to learn, or them to learn, or all of us collectively to learn) I'm just really happy to see how the group has managed to work things through. A happy kid, with a little sister and happy parents.

If your talking about this in relation to past lives...
Ryland may have been judgemental of Transgender folk in a previous ride...
& sentenced on his former Judgement Day to live the life of those he judged!!!

May sound outlandish...
But I do believe those who judge others will return to walk in the shoes of the victimised!!!
I see this as the reason for the rise in in numbers in Ladies, Muslims, Ethnic minorities, Atheists & the LGBT communities!!!
All the while Racist, Mysoginistic, Homophobic, Fundamentally Religious White Men are lower in numbers...
& it serves them right!!!
And most of the ones left are all old & close to Death's Door!!!

The Goddess Is Great!!!

Let she/he who is without Sin, cast the first stone!!!
&...
Judge not, lest ye be Judged!!!


Peace everybody!!!

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Good on this kid and his parents.
Matt Moore needs to sit down and shut up.

Great story. Thanks for bringing it here. Much applause for those parents for standing behind their childs decision. Im sure if at any time ryland changes his mind, they will support that decision as well. I wish there were more of this to go around.

Matt Moore's opinion is far too common in my neck of the woods, leading me to believe there are more "ex-gays" in my community than one could shake a thing that rhymes with stick at.

This family's Decision will likely bring unwanted attention, but bringing their story out into the public eye will no doubt bring some comfort, help, awareness, and understanding to a great many people.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: jonnywhite
My opinion is .... I'm uncertain. While I don't have a religious view on it, I'm skeptical that society and environment and family has no influence on Ryland's choice to be a boy. Ryland was only 5 years old.

So what if the kids tell the parents to jump off a cliff? What if the doctor's agree? Can kids be wrong and doctor's still agree? I think it's possible. Sometimes even the wisest man can be led down the wrong road.

I'd be more understanding if they could use brain imaging to distinguish Ryland's gender. They can already use it to lend support to many other issues and being transgender is definitely an issue.

I just want more science. Remember.... it will be a lot harder for Ryland to change back to a girl later on if Ryland has any regrets.

Still I doubt Ryland will have any regrets. I think Ryland will grow up accepting himself. The question is whether others will accept Ryland. Growing up around people who don't accept him might be hard.

In either case, life is an experiment, not predestiny. We have to be tolerant. Keep your head up high until the Reaper calls for you. I wish all the best for Ryland and his parents, as well as for society and our transgenders.

Hey john,

I too want more science. In pretty much everything. So i looked up some articles on whether there are any physiological differences in people who identify as homo sexual or transgender. I was amazed at how many studies have been run, at great length, and detail.

Here is one that started in the early '90's. I found it pretty eye opening. I did expect their to be a way to tell. Something in the genes, or an anomaly in hormone levels, or something. But apperently with all of the tools of medical science, the only way to determine a persons sexual identity is to ask them. It is for all intents and purposes a decision. Now that doesn't rule out environmental and or social stimuli, but it's more knowledge than i had before.

Hope this helps. www.mygenes.co.nz...

Good on little Ryland!

I wish I had the bravery to be my true self at his age, then I wouldn't have to hide and be what society expects of me and many others in his situation

He's gonna go far in life

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Not long ago, I was supervisor to a male security officer who had monthly menstration-periods. With me having a medical background, he confided in me that he wore sanitary pads each month. I befriended him and listened to his problems which were immense. Especially mentally.

He tried to explain to his parents about this when he was in his 20's, and all but one of his sisters thought he was crazy. And in fact, he was institutionalized more than once. He had been having a multitude of issues while in the Navy. And trying to get help and live a nromal life was nearly impossible. He had way way too many mental issues over this. Especially during his "time of the month". Even the Emergency Rooms and urgent Care's he'd visit would sometimes toss him right out, not buying his story (they could have gave him an investigatory inspection!) His life by age 30 was incredibly harse, and he had said I was his only friend....I guess because I listened.

Once I left that position, I lost track of him. I hope he's ok wherever he is ...he was suicidal. This just shows another side of this story here, and that we dont choose how to be born...we just are...and try to make the best of it...however we can....this world can be a hard cruel one when no one tries to understand someone like him.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Confused is how i would put it, gay, straight or bisexual fair enough, but this is a child, let the poor we dude grow up and decide before removing or adding body parts!

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Wow, interesting. Did you find out what his anatomy was? Hermaphrodite, perhaps? Babies born with both sets of genitalia are really not as uncommon as people think. They're just kept hush-hush. (This I learned while working in a neo-natal unit and getting to know the nurses, who'd been there for 20-some years).

a reply to: andy06shake

They didn't remove anything but his hair. There was no mention of any surgical procedures, and I'm fairly sure they WILL let Ryland make the decision, at the appropriate time, with the guidance of counselors, doctors, and others.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I would like to think its reassuring that they do not wish to explore surgical procedures yet, that's not to say I agree with the term transgender being applied to children.

Far too early on in life for the little fellow to know what he is yet.

As to being Demon possessed, that I imagine is the worlds particular malady, not some confused little boys issue.

That just my opinion as a father of two.

a reply to: andy06shake

Far too early on in life for the little fellow to know what he is yet.

Did you notice in the video the parents learned from those who study this phenomenon that most kids know between the ages of 3-5?

That gave me pause. I think small children are very wise - it is social conditioning that 'wipes' their slates and reshapes their thinking.

Well considering demons don't exist, I'll go ahead and say lovable.

a reply to: andy06shake

I would like to think its reassuring that they do not wish to explore surgical procedures yet, that's not to say I agree with the term transgender being applied to children.

I looked up some info, and found this Fact Sheet:

Gender identity development occurs much earlier than the
development of sexual orientation. Children usually have a sense of
their gender identity between age 2 to 5 and they typically become
cognizant of their sexual orientation around age 9 or 10, although
this self-awareness is occurring at earlier ages, particularly as it is
a topic more widely discussed and available to younger children.
Transgender and gender diverse children may begin to play in a way
that is not expected for children of their sex from a very young age.
Gender diverse boys typically experience more negative reactions
from their parents and experience more victimization at school than
gender diverse girls. This is due to the great latitude given to girls
expressing masculine behaviors in a society that overvalues male
behaviors and undervalues female behaviors.

This is just how Ryland's story goes ^^

No gender-related medical interventions are necessary with
young children. The earliest a child should be referred for medical
treatment of gender dysphoria is just before the onset of puberty if
the child desires to go through a different puberty than their body
would ordinarily experience. Puberty blocking medication can be
used to put a temporary halt on puberty and not only allow a child
to stop an unwanted puberty but also to buy the child more time
to explore gender before moving into a time when the secondary
physical effects of the puberty associated with the assigned sex of
the child take effect. Providers can work to develop a network of
referrals including supportive and competent medical professionals,
community groups, parent support groups, and other professionals.

I'd say these parents have taken responsibility for assisting Ryland in a very appropriate way.
I congratulate them all.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
If your talking about this in relation to past lives...
Ryland may have been judgemental of Transgender folk in a previous ride...
& sentenced on his former Judgement Day to live the life of those he judged!!!

May sound outlandish...
But I do believe those who judge others will return to walk in the shoes of the victimised!!!


Peace everybody!!!

Then get a load of this kid. He must have been a gay person that tormented chritains......so God made him come back as a fundamentalist preacher. Oh the irony!

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: andy06shake

They didn't remove anything but his hair. There was no mention of any surgical procedures, and I'm fairly sure they WILL let Ryland make the decision, at the appropriate time, with the guidance of counselors, doctors, and others.

An appropriate time? Do you realize you have just undermined your entire "social conditioning" criticism with that comment?