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Originally posted by silo13
Those pics of the Royal Clones are outrageous.
S&F anyway! Good luck on your thread!
peace
[edit on 26-10-2009 by silo13]
Originally posted by autowrench
Star and Flag for starting this thread, I think it's time we discussed this. The idea of human cloning has been around for some time now. I think it was the Raelians who brought cloning into popular culture...
Knowing this, and knowing how at least some of the Rich Elite Families operate, it just stands to intelligent reason and logic that the Elite have used their money to fund a cloning project. That is not even counting whether or not they had extraterrestrial help, it has been said many time that the small Greys had lost, or had never had, a reproductive process, and were trying to perfects one by using human subjects...
Originally posted by Asmus
...I tend to lean toward it being more of a reality than a theory however.. not only because of the information and discussion brought forth, but also because of what I hear/feel in a higher state of consciousness regarding greater reality and illusionary nature of this mandated reality that is seemingly forced into us, literally...
Originally posted by Asmus
Also, and this is something I have personally noted and wondered about for a year or so now: Obama to me feels/resembles a pharoah in some subtle way [...] he has never looked even remotely the african american man he has been made out to be to me...
Originally posted by Asmus
Looking at many of these people even from a non clones perspective (though I do believe many are)... Many of them do not look right. There is something "off" about many of our leaders.. look into their eyes, feel their eyes. You know if I could tell you specificaly what it is perhaps I would, but there is something simply that does not sit well there. Sometimes I ponder if holding a malevolant force withn them for extended periods of time would physicaly contort, manipulate, and alter them... reflecting on the outside what is contained on the inside. Perhaps then new hosts or "clones" are required to extend the parlor tricks...
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Ivan was only 3 years old when his father died. His uncle Yuri challenged his rights to the throne, was arrested and imprisoned in a dungeon. There he was left to starve. Ivan's mother, Jelena Glinsky, assumed power and was regent for five years. She had Ivan's other uncle killed, but a short time afterwards she suddenly died, almost surely poisoned. A week later her confidant, Prince Ivan Obolensky I, was arrested and beaten to death by his jailers. While his mother had been indifferent toward Ivan, Obolensky's sister, Agrafena, had been his beloved nurse. Now she was sent to a convent.
Not yet 8 years old, Ivan was an intelligent, sensitive boy and an insatiable reader. Without Agrafena to look after him, Ivan's loneliness deepened. The boyars alternately neglected or molested him; Ivan and his deaf-mute brother Yuri often went about hungry and threadbare. No one cared about his health or well being and Ivan became a beggar in his own palace. A rivalry between the Shuisky and the Belsky families escalated into a bloody feud. Armed men roamed the palace, seeking out enemies and frequently bursting into Ivan's quarters, where they shoved the Grand Prince aside, overturned the furniture and took whatever they wanted. Murders, beatings, verbal and physical abuse became commonplace in the palace. Unable to strike out at his tormentors, Ivan took out his frustrations on defenceless animals; he tore feathers off birds, pierced their eyes and slit open their bodies.
The ruthless Shuiskys gradually gained more power. In 1539 the Shuiskys led a raid on the palace, rounding up a number of Ivan's remaining confidants. They had the loyal Fyodor Mishurin skinned alive and left on public view in a Moscow square. On December 29, 1543, 13-year-old Ivan suddenly ordered the arrest of Prince Andrew Shuisky, who was reputed to be a cruel and corrupt person. He was thrown into an enclosure with a pack of starved hunting dogs. The rule of the boyars had ended.
By then, Ivan was already a disturbed young man and an accomplished drinker. He threw dogs and cats from the Kremlin walls to watch them suffer, and roamed the Moscow streets with a gang of young scoundrels, drinking, knocking down old people and raping women. He often disposed of rape victims by having them hanged, strangled, buried alive or thrown to the bears. He became an excellent horseman and was fond of hunting. Killing animals was not his only delight; Ivan also enjoyed robbing and beating up farmers.
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Current Theories about the Causes of Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia is a pervasive and mysterious mental disease. Even though over 2,000 articles on schizophrenia are published yearly (Gottesman, 1999) it is not known if schizophrenia has one major cause or an array of many causes (Torrey, 2001). To get a glimpse of the pervasity of this unsolved puzzle of a disease, it is important to consider the theories that are at the center of research today. The onset and course of schizophrenia are most likely the result of an interaction between genetic and environmental influences (Gottesman, 1999). The mystery is such that the answer might come in a combination of a couple of theories, a single one or even none of them. Below is a current description of the latest explanations of schizophrenia.
Current research suggests that schizophrenia can be caused by a genetic predisposition joined with environmental and psychosocial stressors. It is probable that there is an interaction between the level of predisposition, behavioral factors and environmental stressors. However, it is not known how the interaction happens.
One theory that is often mentioned is called the Developmental Theory. The Developmental Theory is based on pathophysiology and it includes an analysis of the process of the disease. This theory does not focus on the causes of the disease but when the disease begins. The Developmental Theory is based on the assertion that complications during the period of brain development might increase the risk of schizophrenia (Mednick, 1970).The complications might be caused by genes, infectious agents, alcohol, chemicals, medications, radiation, malnutrition or stressful experiences (Torrey, 2001). As a group these possible influences are called teratogens. During the first four months of development the embryo is vulnerable to teratogenic agents. The exposure of the embryo to certain teratogenic agents may result in death, cell damage or severe mental retardation (Newman, 1999).
The Genetic Theory and its variations play a major role in virtually every study on the origin of schizophrenia. It is not known if environmental factors combined with genetic factors lead to schizophrenia, or if genetic factors alone can cause it (Gottesman, 1999). Researchers agree that genes play some role in the development of schizophrenia and there is in fact enough evidence that shows that the risk of developing schizophrenia has some relation to the number of genes shared.
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...George W. Bush The President GW Bush seen publicly is a clone. It was only when he became governor of Texas that it occurred to the powers that be to have him cloned. By that time, alcohol had seriously compromised his physical and mental status, so the first clone could only be a poor specimen. Because the art and science of human—or even animal—cloning is far from perfected, there is deterioration with each successive clone, so a replacement cannot be in much better condition than the predecessor. And since the brain’s storage unit cannot be downloaded into a physically-ready clone until a new one is required, because all knowledge to that date must be included, by now there is little chance that Bush’s mental condition will improve. The fact that he has no soul may be contributing to his stated belief that he has been anointed by God to do what he’s doing, but basically, it is the personality that is quite authentically reproduced in clones that you are witnessing...
Matthew/Suzanne Ward
www.matthewbooks.com...
...President Bush and his look-alikes, the biological identical twins who were raised in secure settings as a back-up, have been assured since birth that they would rule the world during the end times. It is no accident that Herbert Bush headed the CIA in the 1970's, and was selected as Reagan's vice president. The Bush family had plans. The Bush clones, who were in fact identical twins as the zygote was split and implanted into Barbara and several surrogate mothers, show the serious intent, as should the brother in the public eye develop a fatal illness or go insane or refuse to be directed by the cabal planning to rule the world, they could substitute another brother. At present there are only two brothers alive and operational - one in the White House, and the other living with the Puppet Master...
ZetaTalk: Bush on the Bottle
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Why did the Zetas not tell us about the Bush clone until now?
As Nancy has explained, she was aware of this situation at least a couple years ago, due to out-of-body trips she was allowed to take with us. These were extensive, and involved becoming aware of devil worship practices, meetings inside the White House, and struggles between factions within the DOD. She was taken for discussions with the Puppet Master and his sons, who confirmed the situation with the clones (who are actually brothers), informing Nancy that there were 14 brothers altogether who were born. Thus, Nancy speaks of this not simply because we informed her via our telepathic communication. One of the brothers, who developed a health problem so does not have the physical appearance of the current clone acting as President, records the weekly radio show. There were 3 living clones who could act as President in 2000, but the one acting as the public face during the early years of the presidency was so damaged by coc aine and booze that he was considered out of control, and is secreted away, imprisoned, in case they need a body in which case he would be killed. Another clone was approached by the Puppet Master's agents and agreed to work with him. He is in Europe and could be substituted for the clone acting as the US President at any time. We came forth with this information at the present time as such an occurrence might happen, in our opinion, due to the collapse of the current clone acting as President in the public view. The clone working with the Puppet Master is, strictly speaking, not Service-to-Self, and would take orders from other than the crowd that took the White House by fraud in 2000 and 2004. Don't be shocked if a sudden change occurs! ...
ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live
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...Are the Bush twins/clones aware of each other? Who had the power to imprison the coked-up, boozing Version One, and which one had/is having the "affair" with Condi or Victor Ashe?
Obviously, the clones who were considered candidates for the inner circle are aware of each other. Some of them, due to accident, disease or personality problems that developed were rejected, and most of these were killed if they had even a clue as to the larger plan. Those who arrived at the year 2000 intact and in hand were very tightly under control, and not allowed free rein. Do the staff at the White House know? No, as only one clone at a time is allowed to be out and about. There are frequent conferences so all know what is happening, what has been said, the schedule for the next day and all. The current clone is much more comfortable with press conferences than the clone in place after the 2000 election. By the 2004 election, this first clone was in a type of prison, near Denver. He was the one who had an affair with Ashe. Laura Bush, of course, is much in the know about this, as she must appear with them all...
ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live
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Will Bush2 be teleported back at the end of his term to face karmic justice?
The Bush 2 clone was executed, gunshot to the head. He was not expecting this and felt no pain. Why was this done? It was felt there was a slight risk that he might escape, especially during Earth changes which could discombobulate the prison system where he would be held. If he escaped in Europe, this could potentially create a lack of confidence in government in the US, as it would be clear that doubles were being used. Bush 1 would be headed for a similar fate if his health were not so thoroughly destroyed. He is a drunk, and looks it...
ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live
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[All-caps in original]
...SOME VERSIONS OF THE ORIGINAL GEORGE BUSH ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS...THE ONE VERSION OF GEORGE BUSH IN PICTURE #2 HAS DIFFERENT NOSE AND EYES...
ANOTHER SHOCKING QUESTION THE WORLD NEEDS TO ASK IN ORDER TO BE FREE...
ARE US PRESIDENTS CLONED
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Carter had gone on a solo fishing expedition in his hometown of Plains, Georgia when the rabbit approached his boat, "hissing menacingly, its teeth flashing and nostrils flared and making straight for the president",[1] trying desperately to enter the boat, causing Carter to flail at the swimming creature with the oars from his boat.
Upon returning to his office, Carter found his staff disbelieving of his story, insisting that rabbits couldn't swim, or that they would never approach a person threateningly. The incident was captured on footage taken by a White House photographer.
Monster Rabbit Attack
The holographic computer brains of the robotoids include instabilities which were present in the real Carter brain in a way that exaggerates those instabilities. As a result, every so often a Carter robotoid does something so unpredictable that it is dangerous to the Russians.
An example was the famous so-called "killer-rabbit incident" of a few weeks ago. A Carter robotoid told the press in all seriousness that he and his family had been attacked by a swamp rabbit while fishing. Can you imagine? The Russians want to rid themselves of the nerve-racking problem of the unstable Carter robotoids.
Earlier this month, on September 15, an attempt was made to do just that. The alleged President Carter was entered in a foot race, of all things, in the Catoctin Mountains near Camp David. It was a strenuous six-mile course which included much uphill running. Carter robotoid No. 14 was programmed to run at maximum speed and not to let up for any reason.
The Russian strategy was simple: Runners who over-exert themselves and who do not stop and rest when danger signs appear can do themselves serious harm. Sudden overheating, dehydration, and heart failure can take place abruptly in extreme cases. Robotoids, as I have explained in past tapes, embody a crude facsimile of human metabolism, their hearts are relatively weak, and they live for only a few weeks or months, depending on the stress problems. They have no self-preservation instinct, so Carter robotoid No. 14 was programmed to run like the wind.
It was expected that suddenly without warning he would suffer complete heart failure, collapse, and die on the spot. If the robotoid died before aid could reach him, everyone would just accept it as a tragic accident, and the Russians would be rid of the problem of unstable Carter robotoids. But the day of the race dawned cooler than it had been expected by the planners.
Carter robotoid No. 14 did collapse, but did not expire instantly. His face turned a deathly greenish-gray, and he was moaning and incoherent; and yet when the Secret Service men picked him up, his legs kept running as programmed. Finally an ambulance arrived, but Carter robotoid No. 14 did not use it. Instead the robotoid was bundled off in a car to Camp David, and there robotoid No. 14 finally died-too late, and out of public view...
So after the race, Carter robotoid No. 15 showed up to reassure everyone. He looked nothing at all like the deathly figure who had collapsed just a short while earlier in the race. He looked like a new man, and in a sense he was. The contrast between the dying robotoid No. 14 and the fresh robotoid No. 15 is something you can see for yourself. Just get a copy of Sports Illustrated magazine for September 24, 1979. On pages 16 and 17 you will see the pictures of robotoid No. 14-stricken, stumbling, mouth agape. Then look at the fresh, smiling picture of robotoid No. 15 handing out trophies on page 19 only a short while later, and then ask yourself: Is this the same man?
The Cloning of Man
During April of 1979, for the period of a week and a half, President Carter and Vice President Mondale were out of public view. Now, if you will remember, Carter was looking very sick and apparently he was. He was dying of leukemia and cancer, as a result of material injected into his food by the CIA. He went to Georgia with his family for a ten-day scheduled vacation. Walter Mondale supposedly went to Iceland, Scandinavia and the Netherlands. In other words, they had a double for him. The real Walter Mondale was executed by Operation Deep Freeze on the evening of April 20, 1979 in New Richmond, Wisconsin. On April 21, 1979, President Carter and his family were executed. I know this sounds hard and unbelievable. [Editor note: Actually, Dr. Peter Beter, a man with a list of impressive credentials a mile long, maintained this fact adamantly, before he was killed. I have seen the material, and the documentation was
impressive].
They've all been replaced by clones. Jimmy Carter has had at least 18 clones since he was killed in 1979. The person we see, and the person who recently went to Korea in 1996, is not a real human being. He is what they call a synthetic.
... On Saturday April 21, Jimmy Carter flew secretly from Georgia
to Camp David unaware that Mondale was dead. After lunch he went
to Bethesda Naval Hospital for a checkup on his cancer and then
to the White House briefly. It was not until roughly 8:00 PM
that night that the real Jimmy Carter returned to Plains. There
about 10:30 PM Jimmy Carter, President of the United States, was
shot between the eyes, but incredibly he retained some signs of
life...
During the past several days Jimmy Carter No. 2 (that is,
Carter's "double") has been seen repeatedly in public--and what a
change! Jimmy Carter No. 2 looks and acts 10 years younger than
the real Carter did...
Thechange in appearance and behavior are so striking that something
had to be done to focus peoples' attention in a way that would
explain it all away--in other words, distraction. And so the new
Jimmy Carter, the "double", is receiving great publicity over the
fact that he parts his hair on the left; the old Carter, of
course, parted it on the right. So now anyone who looks at him
and thinks, "Carter sure looks different these days", will also
think, "I guess it's the hair that does it." ...
Dr. Peter David Beter - Audio Letter No. 45.
www.peterdavidbeter.com...
When an organic robotoid is made to simulate, for example, our late President Jimmy Carter, two major factors are involved. One is the genetic coding required to simulate Carter’s appearance, voice, fingerprints, and so on. The other is a holographic image of Carter’s brain. This image is a complete record of the neuron patterns which existed in Carter’s brain at the moment the hologram was made. Therefore it contains all of the memory and knowledge Carter had up to that moment.
When a Carter robotoid is made, the biological computer in its head is caused to form according to the holographic record of Carter’s brain. However, certain portions of the robotoid computer are caused to deviate from the holographic record. The end result is a biological computer which has to be programmed but which contains essentially all of Carter’s memory, involuntary mannerisms, and the like. As a result, a Carter robotoid will automatically do certain kinds of things without the need for specific programming. For example, a Carter robotoid will seem to recognize old friends. That’s because the computer memory of the robotoid reproduces Carter’s memory of that friend. The holographic process puts it there automatically without the Russian programmers even having to know it’s there...
Audio Letter #47
Dr. Peter Beter
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
...On October 9, 1979 Carter robotoid No. 18 was scheduled to hold a news conference. Three days earlier, Brezhnev No. 2 had made his proposals in East Berlin for military reduc tions in Europe. Robotoid No. 18 had been programmed to react positively to the proposals but instead your alleged President said, quote: “I think it’s an effort designed to disarm the willing ness or eagerness of our allies adequately to defend themselves.” The Rus sians were totally dumbfounded. This was a fresh robotoid, surely the re curring insta bility problem could not be showing up so rapidly. After the news conference, he was bundled off for ex amination and testing, and that produced the second big surprise. It was not robotoid No. 18 at all, but a total synthetic. The synthetic was then transported to Novosibirsk for fur ther study. There, robotoid scientists were able to establish an impor tant and unpleasant fact: the source of the genetic material used in generating the synthetic had been robotoid No. 18; and whereas the Russian robotoids vary somewhat from one to another, the synthetic was virtually identical in ap pearance to the missing robotoid No. 18. But an important favorable fact was also discovered—the synthetics are inferior mentally to the robotoids. It wasn’t clear at the time how fast the Bolsheviks would be able to deploy the synthetics, but the guerilla war between the Rothschild synthetics and the Russian robotoids was underway...
This is why this thread is posted in the "General Conspiracy Discussion" section of ATS, where it rightfully belongs.
Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
This is why this thread is posted in the "General Conspiracy Discussion" section of ATS, where it rightfully belongs.
I agree. Too bad someone decided to put it in skunk works. Whatever.