The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones, page 2

If we are confronted with Clones, who is manipulating them? Could a President be manipulated by Aliens? While this is less plausible than human controllers for quite a number of possible reasons, it might better explain why the fact that there are Clone leaders out there is kept hushed up. Because it is only the tip of the Iceberg, the other implications being more serious yet.

Of course we cannot assume this based upon any reliable tangible evidence from scientifically validated empirical sources. But were it the case, erasing evidence and purging the news and media of references would be a matter of routine for those seeking to conceal it, were it a fact.

This possibility would have, as secondary implication, that Aliens would be a threat to the normal conduct of human affairs and it would demonstrate that they could infiltrate any other part of society, and not only the more obvious power nexus of political office.

To tacitly occupy strategic positions in our planet, they would need to have complicities among people or organizations which consider themselves above the law, and who have no problem with operating in secrecy or withholding information from the public. Those who come to mind are the Intelligence Community with its excuse of spying under cover of secrecy, and Military Agencies who obey orders regardless of their legality under national security dispositions .

So technically, even if there is no proof of this fact, if Alien entities had been in contact with our governments, it would be possible for them under certain constraints to exercise a presence without our knowledge. Thus, we cannot totally discount such an eventuality.

Despite the logic of entertaining such a possibility, who on Earth would speculate that Aliens might already be here? Might they be in a position to find out, with access to information we do not have? Let us consider what some have to say who may know more about this that we are officially told.

President Truman


President Eisenhower


President Reagan


Canadian Defense Minister



The clues in President Sarkozy's father's artwork would not mean much on their own. But if we pause to consider the converging statements of a number of others with access to military and intelligence reports, and weigh the possibility of controlled doubles being placed in public office, we shall find more unanswered questions than solutions.

Shall we consider a recent "bug" of the Sarkozy Clone which repeated a speech word for word, with identical theatrics, last February and this October? Some may think it was just pulling a used refrain from a drawer and tossing it out there assuming it would be of no consequence. But when seeing them simultaneously it appears enough like a skipped record disfunction of a clone than an absence of rhetoric. Journalists cannot explain how he has the same intonation and identical gestures, stating that the two speeches dated eight months apart can practically be superposed simultaneously.

President Sarkozy's cloned speeches



If this president is a clone, then what about the others?

Reagan is said to have been replaced. He had publicly alluded, a few months after his attempted assassination, to an Alien presence among us. In that event he seemed genuinely sincere and quite human. Later he appeared glazed over as if he was changed. Had clone replacement already become a routine practice?

Note how in 1989 he looks like a wind-up doll




One clue is this so-called "mishap" broadcast on National Public Radio on August 11th, 1984. Could this be one of those notorious clone dysfunctions?

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

President Reagan in 1984



Reagan Clone photographed during that broadcast






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Faulcon

Your perspective is very interesting because it does not conform to traditional approaches to what is behind our experience of reality, yet in so doing it does not contradict them. Let us first review the usual propositions.


What we see is all there is to be seen.

Scientists today agree that we are very restricted in our perceptions of reality, arguing whether the universe has eleven or twelve dimensions. Yet we are convinced that our assumptions built within the limits of a partial perception of 4 dimensions are solid, accurate and complete.

Even though our understanding of reality shifts gradually, from decade to decade with new knowledge, and sometimes suddenly with important discoveries, we still consider our take on reality to be exact and lasting.

There is usually more to the story than what we may discover. Here is an example of how we refabricate our grasp of reality by shifing paradigms.

Truth, Lies and Perception

Google Video Link

Aliens are from other planets?

We tend to consider Aliens to either be figments of our imagination, or else as strictly physical entities, such as the "little green men from Mars", who invariably come from other planets. This is why we call them Aliens, meaning that they are another species from our Earth. Envisaging that we coexist simultaneously and cross paths in places we cannot see or hear is probably more alarming yet than thinking that they have to travel incalculable distances to come here from far, far away. Was that a dream, or was an alien really tugging at your covers last night? Not good. However, there are eyewitness accounts, even from authoritative military sources, which state that they can enter and leave our dimension or density.

Ancient Aliens



Aliens are from another dimension?

Your theory presents distinct advantages to physical approaches. When physicists weigh in about the possibility of Alien life forms, a number of them suggest that there is greater likelihood of Earth being visited by beings from other dimensions that from physical space, which we call the astronomical cosmos. One would assume the contrary, so we must pause to consider if this is because they may have inside information to which we are not privy, or because their theoretical models allow for this possibility in much higher probability than in the traditional interpretation of interstellar travel?

In such a case, Aliens visiting or colonizing Earth would not be physical entities with corporal bodies as we usually imagine them. If so, it could explain why they might want to extend their will to our physical dimension using cloned entities, be they in Grey or human form. It could also explain why humanity has been haunted or possessed since the beginning of history, by non human entities which we call "demons" and which may happen to just be the old fashioned word for Aliens?

Demon Possession by Alien Entities
Invasive Demonic Spirits


Alien Greys are clones?

Traditional "Alien lore", can be amply read about here in the ATS Alien and UFO sections. It often refers to the "small greys" as cloned entities who work as servants for other Aliens species. Given that we are currently taking note of the distinct possibility that people are today being cloned, this may affect our interpretation of the use of our own clones, those which hit closer to home within our presidential palaces.

Genetic Grey Clones-Nazi Technology?

Cloned Greys


Human clones and Greys work for the same masters?

Are human clones can be entirely autonomous, determining for themselves their every thought and each of their actions? The impression is that somebody or something else is in charge, piloting them, sending precise instructions, manipulating their behavior, dictating their thoughts. What bothers us is not so much that clones could exist and have some utility, but the fact that we aren't being told there are robotic civil servants in our highest public offices.

Also it could concern us that we have no idea who is pulling their strings. Could it be that the same ones who cloned the Greys cloned our Presidents? It is not yet settled whether those behind the Grey clones and human clones are humans or Alien entities. We must find more clues before establishing which may be true, and must keep our mind open in either direction before eliminating one of these options. Furthermore, who is to say that there isn't a "War of the Clones" with some controlled by humans and others by Aliens? We had less trouble when we considered Dr. Beter's interpretation of Russian Robotoids rivalled by Rothschild Synthetics.

Doubles, Robotoids and Replicas


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Advances in Human Cloning technology?

If recent model clones such as Presidents Obama and Sarkozy are any example, we can notice that certain considerable improvements to clones have been made since the earlier units used to replace Jimmy Carter or even George W. Bush. Are they "genuine" clones instead of robotoids or synthetics, making them higher quality units? Or is it the fact that they were made using proven DNA of widely recognized leaders which grants them a better "cover" thans to their genetically inherited human charisma?

This might explain why clones are today carbon copies of former dead rulers who had proven characteristics deemed essential the grant clones under the radar Stealth Performance. Such bravado and poise in assuming a leadership role help populations view such clones as legitimate leaders endowed with the relevant character.

Human Cloning Technology Goes Mainstream



Aliens are cloning our Presidents?

If dimensional beings can clone Greys, who is to say they can't clone humans? Given the testimony about abductions by Greys, who attack and kidnap innocent victims to remove genetic samples from their bodies and engage in reproductive experiments with abductees, such a possibility comes to light. If so they would have a hand in quite a number of our governing bodies, controlling human affairs and becoming an invading force colonizing planet Earth.

Small Grey indoors behind Bush Clone


Grey reflected to the right of Bush Clone?

Bush Speech September 13th, 2007

Humans are cloning our Presidents?

However, if humans on their own have developed cloning technology through secret developments in covert laboratories, it is possible that the Greys are experimental clones engineered by humans. This could help create a mass hysteria of an alien invasion to use to take power by martial law, or more modestly serve as a cover for unethical experimentation with the ultimate "deniability": "We couldn't have done that, we don't have the technology, it's those Aliens!"

Cloned presidents may also be the product of reverse engineering of Greys, which were designed by Aliens. Applying a similar technology to humans, we may have cloned our presidents for a wide variety of reasons.

Either of these interpretations would place the blame on secret societies who control the Military-Industrial complex and its research efforts. They would thus be those piloting the robotoids, clones or synthetics replacing our presidents, political leaders and others with measurable influence over society.

Synthetic Biological Robotoids


Alien invasion using clones?

Some may think that Aliens from other planets are invading Earth using human clones. Yet this is not entirely logical. If they had the technology to get here, wouldn't they have the technology to defeat us and colonize Earth? This leaves a second hypothesis which, while less seductive because not as physically tangible, is nonetheless better suited to explaining what otherwise remain inexplicable series of events.

This hypothesis presupposes that Aliens are ethereal spirit beings, better named "demons", who are trying to extend their Empire from the original dimension, which we traditionally call Hell, to our own dimension here on Earth. They have been trying to move into our territory for much of our known history, using various devices to invade us.

Using invasive telepathic powers to tempt us to behave destructively, they seek to establish a context of havoc where they can more easily enter our bodies and replace our souls with their own consciousness. A generalized state of chaos favoring their invasion is called Helter Skelter which probably corresponds to some sort of electromagnetic dimensional portal opening our physical dimension to hordes of invading demons.

The human struggle against the Devil or Lucifer is the battle for our souls which has been evoked by many religions for thousands of years. This battle waged individually within our own conscience has taken on such proportions as to be called a War. It may be considerably more real and of greater geostrategic importance than first appears. It deserve to no longer be relegated to the dusty shelves of theosophical libraries and put back into service to help us defend humanity from an organized invasion by Alien entities.


Human allies of the Alien Invasion?

If Aliens are only physical entities from outer space, then we have quite a bit of confirmation that the governmental and scientific establishment is withholding evidence from us. Every few years, one country or another opens ajar some of its official UFO archives while keeping others secret.

The NASA Conspiracy of Silence

Google Video Link

If Aliens are not only physical but also dimensional entities, then we must think hard about who has betrayed humanity and become the Allies of the Aliens? Anyone engaged in Devil worship, satanism or striving for the coming of the Light of Lucifer. Unfortunately for us, this becomes a long list of individuals and organizations, some of them apparent and officially striving to this end, others working behind the scenes in secret societies.

The Illuminati are bent upon bringing the rule of Lucifer to Earth. They have historically educated their offspring through such abuse as will fragment their personality to create ideal hosts for demonic possession.

These familes have served their "masters" as a front guard of the invasion, infiltrating many realms of human society and working tirelessly to destroy, vilify and drive the world to the chaos and terror of Helter Skelter.

Freemasonry is at the higher levels dedicated to Lucifer, as the masonic bible written by Grand Master Albert Pike states in so many words. Those unaware of this at the lower levels nonetheless unwittingly dedicate their efforts to this goal although it is cleverly disguised as so many humanitarian causes.

Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike



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Organized programs such as those of the Tavistock Institute or the CIA's Operation Mockingbird are other means of destroying structuring values which would prevent the advent of Helter Skelter.

Operation Mockingbird

Tavistock Institute Mind Control


Call for Action.

Political Position?
What is certain today, is that we are yet at the merging of our understanding of Alien visitation and an emerging understanding of Alien interference in human affairs through invisible influence over our minds, souls and civilization. Are humans the dominant force in today's evolution of religious beliefs, cultural pursuits, mental preoccupations, emotional affects? To what measure do Alien or demonic spirits affect our most important fundamental state of being, and thus determine the governance of our destiny?

Forms of Control
Whether this control is exercised through possession, mind control technologies, propaganda, mass education, professional training, self-improvement methods, manipulative rhetoric, or exploitation of sentiments, we are being coralled into a very narrow cattle yard. We must closely examine the ulterior motives of those who harness the coercive forces of social control such as political correctness, lifestyles and fashion, artistic movements, "group-think", conformity to conventions, one-mindedness, modular individualities and the externalization of value systems to outside authorities.

Accountability
More specifically, we must carefully examine and monitor anyone in a position of power or influence, for signs of their replacement with a double, or for hidden agendas or manifest discrepancies between words and actions. The genuine impact of their decisions and actions must elicit investigation, verifying the correlation to displayed convictions and monitoring the outcome of announced objectives.

Identity Investigation
Public figures are in prominent positions as vectors of our psychological orientations and social interactions. They must not be underestimated for their power to construct our human reality. They could become the object of intrigue to control our world through them. Technology today provides true and proven brainwashing techniques using electrochemical shock therapy and hypnotic personality fragmentation. A higher degree yet of control can be obtained by substituting trained doubles, either surgically modified impostors which are resourceful actors or fully programmed cloned replacements using original DNA.

Use of Doubles
We can consider a variety of motivations of different parties to manipulate human populations aiming to take over our World. Such a quest for dominance over Earth could stem from human ambition to become as Gods, from alien entities of galactic origins intervening in our evolution, or from unearthly spirits in another dimension seeking to enter our physical realm.

Right to Self-Determination?
Does humanity have a right to self-determination or should we fatalistically surrender this impractical illusion? Should human leaders capable of thinking for others Shepard a population of sheep to protect them from the wolves? Is our existence but a cosmic journey on a random planet where, regardless of events and struggles, individual consciousness must grow, learn and become, making what governs of our physical world at a given time irrelevant? Or is there not a spiritual battle of right versus wrong, reason versus madness, harmony versus chaos where each idea, thought, intention, striving and action creates the very makeup of our world?

Secret War
We can suppose that the 20th century's materialism was stimulated to distract us from this most important of battlefields. Not the economic quest for wealth, used to mask other motives, but the battle for our souls, waged by engineering our philosophy of life, forming our political ideology, orienting our intellectual pursuits, motivating our sociocultural interests, harnessing our perceptions and conquering our awareness. This background process dictating what world we think we live in and, by extension, who we are, has become pervasive through dumbed down education, filtered and censored news, cultural erosion and destruction, media edutainment and mind numbing enslavement to material pursuits.

Cloned Culture
We must examine the institutions promoting such tacit control of populations through mass propaganda and targeted mind control brainwashing. We must also consider the potential for an extensive use of controlled clones who appear to be normal humans but which may have integrated mechanisms within their genetic makeup or preliminary psychological programming to make them partially or totally subservient to a given outside authority.

Cloned Population Replacement
A society controlled through clones might become a growing menace to humanity, possibly opening the way to a society of predominantly cloned origins with predetermined characteristics, with free will being restrained to a human or Alien ruling Elite.


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Clones or Robotoids?
There are a number of different issues with deploying clones as well as robotoids. We must first differentiate what their uses may be to study the issues their deployment might entail.

To substitute a double.
For this purpose, one must both avoid detection of the subterfuge and ensure reliable control.

Mind Controlled Impostors
If an actor replaces someone, they must appear like them physically or an excuse must be made for any differences, such as an accident requiring reparatory plastic surgery. In this instance a trained actor can be used, they tend to lack the original individual's knowledge and memory but are the most resourceful of doubles if they have a talent for improvisation. To reduce the risks of psychological breakdown, actors will undergo deeply traumatic mental conditioning to increase their resistance to stress and program reflex responses and integrate characteristic behaviors which correspond to the original person being replaced.

Clones
A clone can be used, with identical physical features other than eye and ear placement and cartilage differences. However clones have different finger prints requiring attention to such a relevant detail. They need either a memory transfer, training, or both. They present certain human characteristics which can be both a strength and a weakness for a substitution.

Robotoids
A robotoid developed using the original individual's DNA will exactly duplicate them and be physically undetectable. However they may be very detectable due to their routine repeating of behaviors, the wind up doll syndrome. Also they are soulless, with glazed over eyes in which we cannot detect any signs of humanity or spontaneity. All is simulation, they are machines mimicking human behavior. Due to this they are more reliable in carrying out instructions without questioning or interpreting them in any way. Like with any machine, they are prone to bugs and even system crashes. We can wonder if this is what happened here?

As a substitute population
This area of prospective has not been properly addressed in current literature, most discussion around this revolving in the realm of futuristic science fiction or as a reaction to Nazi designs to create an Ayrian super race. However, with advances in biological sciences and genetic engineering we are compelled to bring this discussion to the forefront of current events, as we will soon be increasingly coexisting with certain populations of artificially created entities.

Mind Controlled Citizens
We needn't look very far to verify whether such an endeavor has been pursued by people in control of society. This is done by propaganda and education, and gellified by science and ideology. They are then "dolled up" by fashion, cajoled by entertainment, and triggered by conditioned responses. Such populations tend to replicate themselves and need continuous refreshing of their mental prompts as well as extensive backdrop building to create a semblance of coherent reality. It is an expensive, unwieldy process requiring considerable energy but provides relatively stable results if the conditioning is pervasive.

Clones
They only differ from naturally born individuals by virtue of their birth and upbringing. Children can be taken away from their parents, as has been experimented with extensively by removing one twin at birth. Then they become to a great extent products of their conditionning. Parenting is what makes the difference. One could parent a clone well, and create a balanced individual capable of independent thought. And one could neglect and abuse a natural child making them psychologically imbalanced and unable to think for themselves.

Clones however make ideal candidates for people or groups seeking to engineer a society. First, they can choose among alternative genetic characteristics to predetermine the potentialities and features of the clone. Secondly, they can design whatever substitute family rearing and acculturation that they choose, creating a virtual society within the clone even before they enter into contact with others. This would be a form of preliminary social engineering where you would no longer need to engage in expensive mental reconditioning by media and information control. Social interaction would be for a large part outlined and channeled in advance, making this a less expensive society to control than ordinary human society.

Robotoids
Throughout history mankind has attempted to create robots. One could even go so far as to infer that the dehumanizing process of submitting others to slavery or subservience was an attempt to deny people their human character and only allow them to survive as objects, tools of service to others. The slave revolt led by Spartacus is a sign of the brittle fragility of using people as something against their natural striving for independance and self-fulfillment. With the troubles associated with human domesticity, there were many ventures into conceiving a mechanical solution to such a quest for dominance and extension of one's power.

History of Robots

Robots already exist and replace people in a number of sectors. At present they have taken over many task in industrial production from materials processing to assembly and distribution. Computerized robotic systems are also present in software form, with professional information systems replacing an increasing number of clerical and administrative functions throughout society. The early image of a Robot looking physically similar to a person has not been a mandatory prerequisite to achieve the same result, the replacement of a person. We may note that such an achievement may have been made, with synthetic biological entities using human DNA simulating the appearance of real people.

Such advances are not necessarily useful or desirable except for certain robotic functions where looking like a person is an important feature. For example, sexual surrogates could be so designed (such as the notorious Fembots), body doubles for security reasons or even what can be termed "customer friendly" computer interfaces which greet you as hosts or hostesses or provide personal services involving physical contact.





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Originally posted by Getsmart

What is officially considered to be the best blood, the blood of rulers and leaders, is therefore in fact the worst blood. Such blood or genetic makeup seems to offer increased compatibility for the ghastly invading Alien entities which take possession of a person.

We can deduce from this, and from the fact that these genetically weak possessed leaders are in a position of power to conduct secret research into genetic engineering, that they are behind the cloning of former Royals, seeking to further exploit their genetic predisposition to providing ideal hosts for the Alien beings who are secretly colonizing our planet.

Porphyria seems to be a likely candidate as far as the 'increased compatibility' goes:

www.reptilianagenda.com...

The ancestor involved was King George 3rd who died just seventeen years before the Prince's great-great-great-grandmother,Victoria,succeeded to the throne.The question was raised when in 1971,aged 23,the Prince met and talked to an historian named John Brooke,who had been granted access to the Royal Archives at Windsor in order to write a biography of George 3rd.They fell into conversation and it quickly emerged that the Prince was extremely well-informed about his ancestor.The two men found they agreed on one point - that most historians had been wrong in condemning George as mad.

But they disagreed on what the correct diagnosis should have been.Brooke believed the King had suffered from porphyria,a metabolic disorder which produces symptoms resembling insanity.It is perhaps better known to the public as the illness which once gave rise to the werewolf and vampire legends.

The reason for this was that exposure to the sun caused it's victims noses and fingers to wither,making their hands resemble paws and claws.The facial skin became taut,drawing back the lips and exposing the teeth.To protect against sunlight, the victims also became nocturnal and grew bushy hair on their faces and hands.They also found they became sensitive to dialkyl disulphide - which is contained in garlic.

But the most interesting of all is that, before modern treatments, the only remedy was to drink large quantities of blood, although not necessarily that of beautiful young virgins.In addition,the genetic defect which causes porphyria is most common in one region of Europe:Transylvania,the legendary home of Dracula.

So,are Prince Charles ,the Queen and other members of the Royal Family descended from someone who has suffered from porphyria and may sometimes have resembled a werewolf or vampire ,or perhaps both?..................."

It seems that porphyria is a genetic disease caused by lack of hemoglobin in the blood. The old cure for it used by King George the 3rd was actually drinking human blood. Hopefully from volunteer donors.

It now seems that many of the Royal Families also suffer from this physical form changing disease. Most notably the Hapsburgs and the Stewart clans. If you do a search on porphyria using the www.google.com search engine, you get 18,000 entries for the disease porphyria.

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Yeah i think this might be true. Maybe this is the reason Obama doesn't have a birth certificate? because he wasn't born, he was cloned. I mean he did just kinda show up on the scene pretty quick.

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Is it true that Obama doesn't have a birth certificate? One would think it a simple matter of faking one...

Anyway, Getsmart brought up so many issues. I wanted to comment on how music is used by dark powers. Low vibrational music is compatible w/ the energy frequency of the multi-dimensional beings generally considered to be "demons."

...McCartney (sic) then "wrote 'Helter Skelter' to be the most raucous vocal, the loudest drums, et cetera" and said he was "using the symbol of a helter skelter as a ride from the top to the bottom—the rise and fall of the Roman Empire—and this was the fall, the demise."[1]...
en.wikipedia.org...(song)

And this song is, of course, connected to the Manson murders. Charles Manson said he could hear the references to death & mayhem in the song.

These videos from Paul is Dead: the Rotten Apple series are about the Charles Manson connection:





Just so people know, that is not Paul McCartney, but an imposter (Paul was replaced in 1966).

I can post more about how low-vibrational music & sounds are used in this spiritual war.

I do not believe that clones are born w/ souls. In the usual situation, a soul/multidimensional being will manifest a body for itself in this physical realm using the mechanism that's been put in place. A clone, on the other hand, are artificially created by scientists who cut & paste genetic code together to grow a body. "Somatic cell nuclear transfer" is a process in which the nucleus of a donor adult cell (somatic cell) is transferred to an egg that has no nucleus. If the egg begins to divide normally it is transferred into the uterus of the surrogate mother. The brain of a clone may be contain information or be given information, but it is only simulating a human (or other creature). It is sort of like the difference between a plane piloted by a pilot & one flying on auto-pilot. This is not to say that a soul can't walk into a clone or even be inserted/transplanted into one.

Here's an article about how Dr Mengele possibly carried on his experiments in Brazil and increased the incidence of twins in a small town's population.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

To be fair, I found an article debunking this story this afternoon but I've been able to relocate it.

I must say, the twin (or multiple birth of any number) theory sounds a good one to me. If you're planning in advance, and I suppose the hidden PTB must do, then it makes sense to have a few spares.

Also, I imagine it would help to keep the 'original' in line if they thought they could so easily be replaced.

Originally posted by berenike
Here's an article about how Dr Mengele possibly carried on his experiments in Brazil and increased the incidence of twins in a small town's population.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Hi Berenike,

In another forum there is a thread in which it was mentioned that George W. Bush was himself a twin (or multiple) upon intervention by Mengele himself in Barbara Bush's pregnancy. Here is the link to that discussion:

Doctor Mengele was obstetrician of George W. Bush

Here is also another account of the Nazi involvement in genetic engineering before the end of WWII, this time under the supervision of Heinrich Himmler (minute 3:30).



Nazi motivation to clone their Nazi genes
I am especially intrigued by Himmler's personal involvement in this process, because I have reason to believe that he had himself cloned after WWII. Also, his colleague who was personal assistant to the Fuhrer, the second personality of the IIIrd Reich thought himself to have a duty to propagate his own genes as widely as possible, fathering children inside and outside of wedlock. This was none other than Martin Bormann who also took refuge in the USA after WWII.

Bush Nazis before, during and after WWII
We know of the Bush's strong ties to Hitler from their family history and their active role in orchestrating Operation Paperclip to import Nazis as well as their participation in founding the CIA with key Nazis such as Reinhard Gehlen. We can better understand the likelihood that the Bush family would have been in close contact with CIA master agent Mengele as well as be actively involved in these cloning programs, cloning key Nazis in the process.

Nazi Clones in the White House
Several Nazi clones may have risen to power as key Neo-Cons in the Bush White House and Pentagon. Here are some comparison photos showing a couple of them. We are only looking at their physical similarities, their mindset already well know to be in full compliance with Nazi ideology. Here's a pair at the White House in the company of President Gerald Ford:



You can see superposed to the right a photo of Heinrich Himmler, and to the left a snapshot of Martin Bormann in order to verify similarities with their cloned offspring. Here they are, once again. from different angles in order to verify for yourself whether this Nazi clone hypothesis is really all that ludicrous.

Donald Rumsfeld beneath his biological father Bormann overlord


Dick Cheney next to his spiritual and biological father Himmler


There is certainly more work which can be done to detect Nazi clones among key politicians in the USA and other nations. However, this goes to show that the Nazi faction of the clone creators were masters of this technology as far back as the 1950's when these two specimens were created.

Originally posted by berenike
Porphyria seems to be a likely candidate as far as the 'increased compatibility' goes:
www.reptilianagenda.com...

It seems that porphyria is a genetic disease caused by lack of hemoglobin in the blood. The old cure for it used by King George the 3rd was actually drinking human blood. Hopefully from volunteer donors.

It now seems that many of the Royal Families also suffer from this physical form changing disease. Most notably the Hapsburgs and the Stewart clans.

Hi Berenike,

This is yet another sign of congenital disorder transmitted through Royal bloodlines. According to David Dolphin's research at British Columbia University in 1985, Porphyria is a genetic failure to produce enough enzymes to properly metabolize iron. It turns gums and teeth purple and deform dentition, exposing the canines and makes one irritable and violent. It can provoke Hypertrichosis which causes body and facial hair to grow to a 3" length everywhere but the palms of the hands and the bottom of the feet, like in the case of the Spanish Royal family which had their portraits painted in this striking condition. Here is a 16th century portrait painted of Antonia, the daughter of Petrus Gonsalvus who lived in Innsbruck Austria:



Porphyria is accompanied with photodermatitis where enzymes convert sunlight into a toxin, those afflicted remain in the dark becoming extremely pale and ghostly like we imagine vampires, who also must drink blood to survive. Garlic contains a substance which reacts with liver enzymes producing great suffering in those with this disease.

It is not exactly the type of genetic predisposition I was referring to or it would be altogether far too convenient to defeat Evil spirits of unknown origin controlling those with a genetic predisposition to be possessed, all we'd need to do is hang out some garlic and have a wooden spike to plant in their heart? However those who are "not themselves", who use their power to harm humanity as a vocational striving, are usually not that recognizable even if certain genetically inherited traits can make certain congenital families more likely to transmit demonic influences.

However, we can well imagine that certain noble families may have had BOTH of these genetic predispositions, making them demon possessed vampires or werewolves. Because the would tend to look either like one or the other as in the portrait of Antonia's father Petrus.



Today these illnesses are helped by gene therapy, and we would do well to quickly find which chromosomes lead people to demon possessed states in Royal or Illuminati families, and mandate their treatment so that we are no longer subjected to the rampant death and destruction their twisted minds have subjected us to for centuries. Although they will probably not want such treatment, those possessed always resisting positive change, at least this way they would prevent an otherwise inevitable outcome similar to that of the French Revolution. Also, freed from such possession, there would be no need to expedite them out of power, they could remain in their lofty positions laboring for the good of humanity instead of preying upon its destruction.


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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Anyway, Getsmart brought up so many issues.

Hi Falcon,

Sorry for such a long post, there are so many loose ends to bring together for some coherence to emerge that it can seem disarticulated . From now on I'll try to keep more focused.

Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Is it true that Obama doesn't have a birth certificate? One would think it a simple matter of faking one...

Actually there is as of yet no genuine birth certificate produced. Even the White House has declared him being born at 2 different hospitals in Hawaii. Personally I couldn't care less, even if it isn't supposed to be so (due to constitutional restrictions for presidential candidates). However, the issue is not where he was born, but rather Was he born?

There is a lot of debate about this issue on the Internet and in a number of lawsuits throughout the United States. You can also look into it here at ATS. A number of points merit consideration, partisan issues aside. Here is a news report of an investigative inquiry into first hand knowledge of Barry Obama's true origins.

The strange silence of Barack Obama's grandmother

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 21, 2008) Where his white grandmother is concerned, Barack Obama talks the talk but he does not walk the walk. The presence of our investigative team in Honolulu, the first media investigation of Obama's Hawai'i heritage in the entire presidential campaign, triggered panic attacks in Obama's organization. Obama has suspended his campaign and plans to arrive in Hawai'i Thursday in a desperate attempt to blunt the thrust of our reporting.

We have called all of this rigmarole a 'High Noon'-style Hollywood drama with good reason. By some strange karma, after our team landed in Honolulu to investigate Obama, he decided to make an emergency trip to the island, as if grasping one final time to control the inner pain and secrets that have defined his life.

With all due respect to the senator, while his grandmother may be ill, the claim that he is returning to Hawaii and suspending his campaign on that basis is a ruse to cover the more serious question of how he is trying to deal with the issues we have uncovered.

Unfortunately for the world, the only living witness to his real past died just as Obama was getting elected. Most ill people would have hung on for a few more days, to live to be there the moment their grandson becomes the most prestigious man on Earth. But she died only hours before the election. Was tying up loose ends indispensable before Obama could enter the White House? Without tangible evidence of his actual birth nor any childhood friends or college classmates as witnesses, we cannot help but imagine the worst. As MNBC states, she just couldn't hold on to see what happened.

MSNBC Coverage of Madelyn Dunham's untimely death

Obama's grandmother was considered the only one who raised him. His grandmother was only 38 years old when he is claimed to have been born. She could have been implanted with the clone, or simply helped raise the clone. Even likelier yet would be that she only pretended to have raised him, lying about her and his past for a relatively short while. Her testimonial alone could confirm whether he was indeed raised normally and not grown in a lab. The not so funny part would be if his test tube was from a Soviet laboratory?

Soviet-Cloned Communist Black President

Was Barack Obama designated President prior to 1992 ?
This brings us to consider when and why Obama was cloned, programmed, trained, educated and placed into American society to position him for the United States presidency. Who did this, for what objective?

Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
I wanted to comment on how music is used by dark powers. Low vibrational music is compatible w/ the energy frequency of the multi-dimensional beings generally considered to be "demons."[...]

And this song is, of course, connected to the Manson murders. Charles Manson said he could hear the references to death & mayhem in the song...

YouTube Link

This video really bothers me from minute 2:15 on. I never knew that Revolution 9 meant Revelation IX from the bible, where 4 angels of the apocalypse with men's faces and women's hair would bring forth the end of the world. Tie this in to their Butcher's album with satanic overtones, add in a dose of Aleister Crowley's heritage with Tavistock Institute oversight of Apple Records and you've got some disturbing coincidences. Somebody must have been listening to some pretty deep pitched low vibration harmonics.

Originally posted by faulconandsnowjobI do not believe that clones are born w/ souls. [...] A clone, on the other hand, are artificially created by scientists who cut & paste genetic code together to grow a body. "Somatic cell nuclear transfer" is a process in which the nucleus of a donor adult cell (somatic cell) is transferred to an egg that has no nucleus. [...]The brain of a clone may be contain information or be given information, but it is only simulating a human [...] This is not to say that a soul can't walk into a clone or even be inserted/transplanted into one.

Well Faulcon, you did it. Up until now I figured that all biological bodies with human structure would have a soul enter them upon birth, but I now see it can be a selective process based not upon the availability of a body but by a soul setting forth into a life destiny. One could hardly call becoming a "lab animal" a destiny with much to be learned from. So I can see how most clones grown in test tubes wouldn't have a sou. It is even said that a soul enters the body of an embryo several weeks after pregnancy, confirming that this would be a separate process from genetic fertilization.


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Its of my opinion that cloning will become one of the biggest threats to man kind in the future.

I saw a TV mini series some years ago about Jekyll and Hyde, with Michael Cain playing Dr Jekyll if i remember.

And in the very last scene he says something along the lines of:

"If, in the future you are not born into money, and are not a clone, you shall not exsit"

I believe that to be somewhat true.

On a side note the British Royal Family are fugly I think maybe some clone upgrades are due.



[edit on 2-11-2009 by Agent-ATS]

Originally posted by Getsmart
Sorry for such a long post, there are so many loose ends to bring together for some coherence to emerge that it can seem disarticulated . From now on I'll try to keep more focused.

That is definitely not what was insinuated. Rather, your posts always bring up a lot of good points

I never knew that Revolution 9 meant Revelation IX from the bible, where 4 angels of the apocalypse with men's faces and women's hair would bring forth the end of the world. Tie this in to their Butcher's album with satanic overtones, add in a dose of Aleister Crowley's heritage with Tavistock Institute oversight of Apple Records and you've got some disturbing coincidences. Somebody must have been listening to some pretty deep pitched low vibration harmonics.

And considering that John Todd said the White Album was the Witches' Bible, right?

Up until now I figured that all biological bodies with human structure would have a soul enter them upon birth, but I now see it can be a selective process based not upon the availability of a body but by a soul setting forth into a life destiny.

I think when scientists grow bodies using cloning, it's sort of like making a robot or even a sculpture, for that matter. Perhaps it is counter-intuitive, but I do believe 2 clones can have offspring w/ souls, assuming they reproduce in the normal way. In this case, a multi-dimensional being/soul would be using the process to make a "home" for itself in this dimension - just like w/ any other creature.

Anyway, I wanted to say something about synthetics, which are people who have had their genes altered to look more like another person. They look like a real person, but only simulate human beings. They're skin supposedly feels like plastic.

Synthetics are created from an action similar to cloning, but uses certain flesh from animals or humans, particularly common is the use of the cerebral and nervous system of the cow [this explains cattle mutilations, according to George Green]. The synthetic is then generated in a process that changes the genetic make-up in order to simulate a person being copied. The process is an advancement of a process discovered in the late 1950’s.

...This 1959 experiment was reported in a book called “The Biological Time Bomb” (1968) by Gordon Rettray Taylor. The experiment in France was described like this: "They had extracted DNA from the cells of the khaki Camphells (duck) and had injected it into the white Pekins, thinking that just possibly the offspring of the latter might show some character derived from khaki Campbells. To their astonishment the actual ducks they injected began to change. Their white feathers darkened, and their necks began to take on the peculiar curve which is a mark of the khaki Campbell." ...

"Clones, Synthetics, Organic Robotoids, and Doubles"
Excerpt from "Deeper Insights Into the Illuminati Formula"
by Fritz Springmeier
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

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Some info on cloning...

SHROUDS OF THE SEVENTH SEAL (The Anti-Christ Whore of Babylon), JOURNAL
Pg. 93, Doubles, Robotoids and Replicas:

... There are two kinds of cells in the body—the germ (the sperm cells and the egg cells, which produce the next generation) and the soma (the cells of the blood, brain, muscles, and everything else).
Each somatic cell has two sets of chromosomes in its nucleus. When it divides into two cells, all the chromosomes double, and each daughter cell receives a complete double set. But when the eggs and sperm are formed, by a process called meiosis, the two sets of chromosomes are broken up, and only one set goes to each of the daughter cells. Each egg cell and each sperm cell carry a random mix of half of an individual’s traits; the only time they have a complete set of chromosomes is when their nuclei come together during fertilization. At the moment of fertilization, life begins anew with an individual that is iden- tical to neither its mother nor its father but rather is a 50-50 combination of both.
Starting out as a single cell, the embryo grows rapidly, not in size but in number of cells—first two cells then..... The growth begins when the nuclei come together during fertilization. The point then, of replica- tionistointroducetwoidenticalnucleifromthesameenti ty. Uponintegrationtheywillmultiplyidentically as above stated for it represents fertilization—the cell recognizes no difference. And thus begins replica- tion of an identical clone.
As the cells multiply the embryo is a mulberry-like cluster of cells called a morula, scarcely bigger than the fertilized egg. As division continues, the morula turns into a hollow mass called a blastula (blastocyst in mammals), which is first hundreds, then thousands of cells strong.
In the event of “artificial cloning” it is much like a test-tube embryo except that it is completed in a medium which allows the nutrients of life to be utilized. While this is happening—there is a holographic image available for alteration as necessary for duplication of the finished entity...

It must be noted that adult differentiated cells and egg cells, are on two very different time tables for division. The egg is on the fast track, ready to spring into action about an hour after fertilization if left absolutely alone, while the far slower differentiated cell is programmed to divide every two days or longer. So when the nucleus of an adult cell is placed in a recipient egg, it is forced to divide before it is ready. Chromosomes get left behind or are torn apart. The result is that some of the clones have chromosomal
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abnormalities and may be genetic “monsters”. Now it gets more technical and tedious. Several things must take place to reproduce a “well-rounded”
duplicate. As the cells are growing there must be introduced something which will accelerate growth and reproduction. You have in each body a functioning gland called the pituitary (I think is your label) which regulates growth. If something happens, say a tumor, in an adult wherein the pituitary gland becomes hyperfunctional, a disease, which I believe you call something like “acromegaly” which is chronic hyperpi- tuitarism marked by progressive enlargement of hands, feet, and face—, occurs and within very short periods of time the body will simply outgrow itself—become huge and because the bone structure cannot house it the monstrously rapid growth can simply kill itself from overgrowth. So, if the pituitren from the gland is introduced in increased amounts during the early formation and duplication of cells—the growth rate is incredibly rapid. As the body reaches proper proportion and the cells mature into proper function in the proper placement—the hormone is decreased and additional amounts stopped completely. Under- stand that this is oversimplification of a rather complex mechanism—however, once the duplication pro- cess has been accomplished once or twice, the amount of additives is pretty well decided and the duplica- tion becomes indeed rote.
I believe you can understand that as these reproductions are created they become less stable and much less sturdy although they will replicate even to the age category depending on giving additional hormones or withholding same. Then what is not perfected by “natural” growth and aging can be surgically altered.
So, what have you? You have a body functioning as a machine and a pretty empty mind of a womb- infant. It becomes very easy to down-load information from one brain to another—especiallyifthereisno preconceived ideas or thoughts in the recipient brain. It becomes simple to place the outgoing replica or “person” into a state of imaging and the images in response to questions and input guidelines are extremely rapidly “read off” just like a rapid-fire computer system. Don’t be fooled by that which you are not told much about—but there are cameras which can now photograph thoughts—down-loading a mind is noth- ing and can be completed in only a few brief hours. During this same period of time programming for currentandfuturefunctioningisintegrated. “Flaws”inpersonalitywillmostoftenbecontinuallyexag ger- ated and this is that which becomes the problem—that of keeping the entity under control...

www.fourwinds10.com...

Getsmart,

you make a good point about who/what is behind this effort to create all these doubles. Well, according to this, it is the entity known as "Satan," who can't create souled entities - he can only create copies.

BURNT OFFERINGS AND BLOODSTAINED SANDS, JOURNAL
Pg. 212, Humanoid Robotoids/RNA, DNA Doubles (Genetic):

...Any more recently “transported” “little gray aliens” which are seen regularly and reported by ones who see them and cannot be denied, are mostly reproductions. You are watching the very duplicates made functional by Satan himself come to, what appears, life. It is not the same kind of “life” given through Creator in soul manifested, physical matter. Therefore, KNOW that he can reproduce replicas ad nau- seam from genetic blueprints and programming but he still only has robotoids and robotoids continually give him a great deal of trouble for they are easily identified once people realize there is such a thing. It is the ignorance of the fact of it that keeps the secret secure...

So, if Kissinger is a biggie and is also robotoid, WHO is the PUPPET-MASTER? You guessed it! The prince of deceivers, himself. You were told that—in the ending—Satan would be given total rule over the planet and you now have a very real entity deceiving you as a mass populace of the planet...

SHROUDS OF THE SEVENTH SEAL (The Anti-Christ Whore of Babylon), JOURNAL
Pg. 93, Doubles, Robotoids and Replicas:

...Clones are of evil beginnings by any measure of the term. Replacement of energy form into an existing body is indeed of evil. God needs no such fabrications. If God needs a body, He creates one. Remember, “Satan” as you call him, cannot create—he must utilize that which is already created—havoc is all that evil one can create...

www.fourwinds10.com...

More on presidents...

SHROUDS OF THE SEVENTH SEAL (The Anti-Christ Whore of Babylon), JOURNAL
Pg. 93, Doubles, Robotoids and Replicas:

Beloved ones, these men you perceive to be leading you are replicas and incapable of either compassion or change of programming—they have ONE GOAL IN SIGHT AND ARE PRO- GRAMMED TO MOVE UNFALTERING TO THAT GOAL EVEN IF FREQUENT RE- PLACEMENT IS REQUIRED—THE GLOBAL CONTROL OF YOUR PLANET, IN PLACE AND OPERABLE, BY THE TURN OF THE MILLENNIUM. THESE ROBOTOIDS HAVE NO MANNER OF CONTROL BY WHICH TO FUNCTION DIFFERENTLY AND UNLESS YOU STOP THEIR MARCH TO DOOM, SO SHALL IT COME TO BE!...

Phoenix Express Vol. VIII, No. 4 & 5, Pg. 9 (The world’s leaders are Replicas; Ronald Reagan was slain.)

You say, “...but there was to be one `slain’ only to rise again and call himself God and THEN we would know by the sign.” There is no way to slay the leaders, dear ones, they are replicas of the originals and
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there are dozens to take their places and you will never know. You killed Ronald Reagan and yet, you know not that he was dead! All the signs were there, including the running of your important and critical government by astrologers and still, you missed of it...

www.fourwinds10.com...

Phoenix Express Vol. VII No. 6 & 7, Pg. 1, 1/15/91 (Bush Is In His 28th Cycle of Robotoid)

Herein you will simply have to believe me when I tell you that there are replacement ones for your top leaders—and hundreds of “not so top” personages. The 28th George Bush was put into the picture on the 12th of January 1991 at Camp David. He was tested and “smoothed” on the 13th and presented again to you on the 14th. He did NOT go walk alone this morning (15th) to reflect and commune with God—he went to be alone so the messages from his puppet-masters—right out of Moscow—would not be moni- tored. I ask that, for the moment, you accept this which I tell you and then we can discuss how this can be truefor,ofcourse,manymenhavediedbecausetheybroughtthisinformation. Butinformation,none-the- less, has been given to you-the-public as far back as 20 years past—regarding genetic/holographic robotoids which bear identical memory patterns but are subsequently “programmed”. I have written of it in one of the more recent Journals but will repeat the information as I have time. Suffice it for now, please accept that which I tell you is not only possible but is, in fact, utilized in myriads of instances—right now!
There are several places of top security where these transferences are made and replica holographic information is garnered for necessary multiples. Camp David has been the prime location for it is used as the Presidential Retreat and often social gatherings, such a birthday celebrations, top-level meetings with diplomats, etc., are carried out. This technology has been perfected in the Soviet Union and thus you have the reason that your government seems so indisposed to do anything other than cozy up to Russia.

Phoenix Express Vol. VIII, No. 6 & 7, Pg. 14, 2/10/91 (Bush is now in his 30th replica.)

Even a robotoid who comes within the lighted places of God Truth, shall be given soul by that Grace abounding. An awakened humanity can SEE the robotic replicas as produced by Satanic instruction. For instance—compare the one Cheney and that one, Powell—as they meet with their brother, the 30th replica of Bush on the morrow. All have been wined, dined and exchanged at Camp David whilst you believe them to be “studying the military situation” in Saudi Arabia. The flaws in the replicas are so obvious that you do not even have to look carefully. These ones are programmed to tell you exactly that
which will pull you into the beast’s claws as dead-ahead as a machine can move.

BURNT OFFERINGS AND BLOODSTAINED SANDS, JOURNAL

Pg. 212, Humanoid Robotoids/RNA, DNA Doubles (Genetic):

... You witness, say, Mr. Bush acting in a such and such manner and looking particularly young—then over the weekend he is changed and appears either more youthful or older—but definitely “different”. You simply mark it up to “a bad night’s sleep or too
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much to think about or responsibility ”or any number of excuses for the change. Even your magazines and newspapers note the changes and simply comment onthe incredible duplicity of the man. No,youarenow encountering your 29th replica of George Bush. And with him must come a new Barbara Bush lest the show be spoiled. These duplicates become weak in strain and, under stress, are incapacitated quite rapidly as would be a “growing organism” placed in a stressed environment...

www.fourwinds10.com...

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