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Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by MarsFanMag
Without any more details about it, that looks like a lava tunnel on the Moon, do you have any identification for that photo?
Originally posted by MarsFanMag
And I studied Auvergne Volcanoes- and on the GROUND- geology for long enough to give me solid knowledge, I also studied other volcanoes. Now we're on Mars.
Yes, you mentioned that, but I do not have any way of knowing where did you get that image from and how, you could have a reference or even the identification of the original photo.
Originally posted by MarsFanMag
Listen Armap, I've already mentioned that my usual PC has crashed and I 'm on an emergency notebook.
I never compared my erudition with any other, and even if I had seen all Mars and Moon photos available except this one no amount of erudition would tell me where this photo came from and all the other information about it that is available for identified images.
Now if you are so erudit, why would you ask this?
No, if I knew it I wouldn't be asking for it.
This " _L " or "T" shape is VERY famous on Mars, perhaps you can get its original link in a click from your own PC? ah. You KNOW exactly the location and ID of this photo, don't you?
I may have seen it, but I do not recognise it, and even recognition of the photo or feature could not be enough to give me the photo ID.
You wouldn't pretend you've forgotten its name, would you? Cause I wouldn't believe you, at all. Don't forget to give us its dimensions, as well, will be nice of you.
No, I haven't, that is why I said "that looks like a lava tunnel", I did not said it is a lava tunnel.
You don't have any CLUE more than me to pretend that you "KNOW" it's "natural".
If by that you mean that you do not want to me comment on your posts just say it, and I will stop answering them.
Don't be in my constant way as if I was an imbecile either.
I learnt English by myself and I never even entered any University, if that is of any interest to you.
Like YOU I speak English though I am NOT English-speaking native. I've learned English at school when I was 11 onwards as my SECOND language. I'm graduated from University, not in Science, but that should situate you.
I did not had that opportunity, I only have a personal interest in Geology, and my hands-on knowledge is only from the area where I live.
And I studied Auvergne Volcanoes- and on the GROUND- geology for long enough to give me solid knowledge, I also studied other volcanoes. Now we're on Mars.
Originally posted by MarsFanMag
and secondly it's you both who decide that the "T" shape must be a "lava TUNNEL", not me, ah ah.
Mmm...very good possibility.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ArMaP
I think it's actually a depressed area, a canyon. If you mentally work on it, like one of those flip/flop illusions, you can see it.
Start by looking at the bottom of the full sized context view, it's a little easier there. The light source is on the right. The mouth of the canyon is at the bottom of the image. Give it a chance. The right side of the canyon is shadowed. Move up the canyon and you can clearly see that wall is a steep cliff, sloping down to the left.
The circular things are craters..work with that.
[edit on 16-9-2008 by Phage]
A lava tunnel is a tunnel through which the lava flows. As the outside is in contact with the cooler air it solidifies faster, and makes a solid rock tunnel for the rest of the lava, that keeps on flowing inside it.
Originally posted by MarsFanMagYOU put something forwards, that "lava TUNNEL" concept.
I did not asked for a link, I asked if you had an identification for that photo, if you had only its name (SP2-43004) that would be enough.
YOU ask me to put a LINK on the photo I provided, by the time that you waste asking for it, complaining against it, you would have gone through all your saved links, surely your PC isn't blown-up like my old one.
You could have just found it on the Internet and seen its name.
How can I get a link or details when I don't even have a PC anymore?
I did not (and I still do not) recognise that photo, and my knowledge of Mars (which I never rated as immense) is very far from knowing all the more than 212,000 photos from Mars Global Surveyor, and even though I have seen more than 1000 photos from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter I still haven't seen the other 6000+.
You really pretend you don't know this and it doesn't look good on your immense knowledge of the Red Planet!
Why do you think that I think that? I have always stated things as my opinion, I have never presented myself as better or as more knowledgeable than other people on these subjects, what have I written to make you think that?
Good luck, if you are right I will admire you, but if you cannot prove that this structure is natural I will ask you to take a good look at yourselves and to ask yourselves WHY you think you always know so much more than the others.
Originally posted by MarsFanMag
We are only waiting to be convinced by both your presentations and demonstrations, here or on the other threads that you try to slaughter, "dear two Scientists ATS fine and positive searchers". Good luck, if you are right I will admire you, but if you cannot prove that this structure is natural I will ask you to take a good look at yourselves and to ask yourselves WHY you think you always know so much more than the others.
Thanx Phage, very interesting link.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ArMaP
But how would a canyon form like that? You know what lava tubes are right? Underground tunnels through which lava flows. The "shell" remains after the lava flows out of the tube. After a while, the tube collapses causing a depression on the surface. These features are found in many locations on Mars.
Lava tubes
[edit on 16-9-2008 by Phage]