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Mr. Obama, the official said, will seek to reassure the king of American support after a tense period in which the Saudis and other Persian Gulf allies of the United States have grown increasingly frustrated with American policies toward Iran and Syria.
"India, in spite of its long tradition for religious tolerance, finds itself in the throes of religious fundamentalism and violence against religious minorities for the past few decades. Reports by faith-based rights agencies show that Christians in India have suffered about 150 violent attacks on an average in the past few years," argued ADF attorney Tehmina Arora before the Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.
"These attacks include physical and sexual assaults, murder and desecration of places of worship and graveyards."
Arora listed several examples of Christians being violently attacked by Hindu extremist groups, but the full extent of the persecution is revealed when taking into account the lack of police action on such crimes.
Actually, that's why I mentioned Muslim factions, myself.
Krazysh0t
Yes it is. Like I said, Muslim persecution is on the rise in those countries too. The Shiite/Sunni conflict is raging as hard as ever. This is all the result of a power vacuum and the ensuing groups vying for power only want their world view to be dominant. Pretending like this is some Christian only problem is dumb and dishonest. The fact of the matter is that if you live in one of those countries, you are likely to persecuted against regardless of what your beliefs are, because they will inevitably conflict with someone else's beliefs who is willing to be violent to uphold them.
It's a Christian enough nation. The overwhelming majority of founding fathers and most generations up until the 50s labelled themselves as Christian.
And yes the insinuation that the United States (a supposedly Christian nation according to all the Christians here) is destabilizing these countries in order to facilitate the persecution of Christians is just downright silly.
1 Cor. 5:9-13
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually , I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges . Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
Matthew 13:24-30
24Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25"But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. 26"But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. 27"The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, `Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?' 28"And he said to them, `An enemy has done this!' The slaves said to him, `Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?' 29"But he said, `No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30`Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.""'
The only faith I have is in the scientists who aid us in investigating this reality, the ones who don't depend on faith.
OMsk3ptic
Yes the U.S. is a predominantly Christian society, but if you think the owners of the country are Christian you are sadly mistaken. The idea that the U.S. is actively working to kill Christians isn't that far-fetched, considering they are actively working to strengthen radical Islam. And when you see the complete silence of the Washington establishment on the issue, and their anti-freedom stance in many other places (like Egypt), no agenda is too outlandish to put past them.
Krazysh0t
I'm not really sure what you are getting at with this post. Are you trying to explain to me Christian thought process and why they do things? You do realize that by doing this, you've made an assumption about me, that I am not nor ever was a Christian. Except that I was raised Catholic and am very familiar with church doctrine.
Also you mention people bringing up things the church has reformed, but what about things that they haven't reformed and are still pervasive in the church? Like pedophilia within the clergy, rampant misogyny, intolerance towards homosexuality, and judging people who aren't Christian to name a few.
You:
And yes the insinuation that the United States (a supposedly Christian nation according to all the Christians here) is destabilizing these countries in order to facilitate the persecution of Christians is just downright silly.
Krazysh0t
reply to post by CynicalDrivel
But hey I got to hand it to this thread, I haven't seen anyone come in yelling about Obama being a Muslim or anything (and frankly the thread content is screaming for that to happen) like it is a bad thing.
Minor disclaimer: Really, am more wondering at the possibility, than the probability on this one. Really just defending the the need to seriously look at this.
Krazysh0tHas it occurred to you that this journalism of reporting the rise in Christian persecution is yellow journalism as well to incite Christians like the OP into getting outraged? I pointed out earlier when the OP mentioned the 150 or so Christians being persecuted in India that this is 150 cases out of 1.2 billion people. Sure if the number went from 150 to 160 from last year to this year, it would be an increase in persecution. But would it be significant?
There would be no point. The man claims insidership, and we're stuck with it, for all his ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
But hey I got to hand it to this thread, I haven't seen anyone come in yelling about Obama being a Muslim or anything (and frankly the thread content is screaming for that to happen) like it is a bad thing.
Has it occurred to you that this journalism of reporting the rise in Christian persecution is yellow journalism as well to incite Christians like the OP into getting outraged?
BenReclused
reply to post by AfterInfinity
The only faith I have is in the scientists who aid us in investigating this reality, the ones who don't depend on faith.
Therefore, those scientists ARE your Gods, and you're just as religious as anyone else might be.
See ya,
Milt
Stormdancer777
Monday, Sep 19, 2011
How Obama’s destabilizing the world
American troops are on the ground in an increasing number of volatile countries -- and they're making things worse
www.salon.com...
Please read this article in light of to days situations.