What is the difference between a Right wing anarchist and a Left wing anarchist?

Right wing anarchists believe they can survive through violence.

Left wing anarchists believe they can survive through empathy.

Violence can only end one way.

Love and empathy are useless in this age.

What is the difference between a right wing anarchist and a left wing anarchist?.

Both terms are complete nonsense.

There is no difference.

MyHappyDogShiner
What is the difference between a right wing anarchist and a left wing anarchist?.

Both terms are complete nonsense.

There is no difference.

Yeah basicaly.

Really the only diffrence is the route taken to get there.

reply to post by crazyewok

Personally, a conversation regarding what anarchy actually is would be way more fun, but the OP asked what the difference between two nonsensical terms was.

Don't wanna derail the thread....

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It is amazing to see the amount of one-dimensional thinking in this thread after having read through the comments.

Politics is two-dimensional because most issues can be separated into two aspects--the "social" aspect (the y-axis) and the financial aspect (the x-axis)

What separates the left/right libertarians? Both groups would agree on issues like the legalization of drugs (because they are on the same side of the Cartesian plane that deals with social liberalism), but they would differ on financial philosophies.

The left would lean more towards socialism, while the right would lean more towards a merit-based system (like a free market). In either case, both groups would oppose state enforcement/intervention of any economic model. All state involvement is authoritarian, the only tool the state has at it's disposal to compel people into acquiescence is force, and all use of force is authoritarian.

xuenchen
What's the real detailed definition of "anarchy"?

If it means less or limited or almost no government, then anything authoritarian, totalitarian is Leftist.
Ruling elite corporatism, nazism, communism, socialism, capitalism etc. etc. is all authoritarian and thus Leftist.

If the "ultra right" wing wants less government and authority, then they would be closer to the ultra anarchy theory.

Moderate "right wingers" (like U.S. republicans) would be slightly left of center.

Slightly right of center would work towards anarchy.

True "Open Free Market" would be ?

Two points

Nazism was fascism which is normally considered to be right wing. In addition, Nazis were corporatists that worked with private business to achieve their goals. They also believed that one race should have all the rights of their society while others races would be denied such rights. Which is the opposite of the anti corporation views and the equality that the left wings strives for, but seldom achieves.

Secondly, Republicans in the United States are considered to be fairly far right by world standards. Even Democrats in the United States are even considered to be right wing by world standards. Look toward western Europe for moderate political parties.

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I love you, that was an excellent summary.

reply to post by Kaploink


Actually the NAZI, stands for National Socialists German Workers Party. Like Unions, they are socialists. The only difference is that they were Nationalists. They see themselves superior like a cult. They are leftists.

The right represents limited government, it embraces what the framers wanted America to be.

The left wants to progressively change America to a socialists Utopia. But one would have to say that we are progressively changing into a more tyrannical government instead. That is the tragedy of progessivism, it morphs into something else. That's why the right tries to fight progessivism because they know the Utopia will never happen, and instead u get tyranny.

Eventhough the right has a lot of fake conservatives who are really progressives, they usually lean moderate.

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The right in the United States just means smaller government. Anarchy is is far right in the US is no government. The government gets bigger as u move more to the left. Because u need more government to control all the safety nets, regulatory, people, etc. Which tend to lead to Fascisim or Communism with the wrong people in charge.

The NAZIs are big government. Therefore, they are leftist.

Like Obama, lots of conservatives supported him in the first election, that doesn't make him a right wing. It just shows that he is a good liar. Obama runs on fisically conservative ideology then throws it out the door when elected. Doesn't mean he is from the right. U see the illusion?

amfirst1


The NAZIs are big government. Therefore, they are leftist.

Another american that doesnt understand left and right.

Your propaganda has done a really good job.

Left and right is far more than big verse small goverment. You can be left and support small govement and right and support big. Its a 3D concept not a 2D.

A big example is Singapore, they have one of the freest markets in the world BUT there goverment is very totalatrian.

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Because they are Nationalist. They believe they are superior, and because they are superior. They must conquer all the non superior races.

Even if Jews were fascists let alone communists. They would still hate them.

reply to post by crazyewok


U can a more free market. but if u have a big brother police state, that still represents big government.

Tyranny needs big government otherwise u would not be able to control the much bigger masses.

My interpretation is more align with the framers interpretation for America. Other countries may interpretate it differently.

reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman


I made a better example:

reply to post by crazyewok

Its a 3D concept not a 2D.

Actually, it is a 2D concept, not one 1D.

There is the x-axis (financial) and the y-axis (social). Everyone in this thread is shoving everything into one axis, so that would be one dimensional.

Three dimensions would require a separate axis, the z-axis, and for 3D politics I am not entirely sure what the axis would entail once you have the social and financial aspects accounted for.

LewsTherinThelamon
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Its a 3D concept not a 2D.

Actually, it is a 2D concept, not one 1D.

There is the x-axis (financial) and the y-axis (social). Everyone in this thread is shoving everything into one axis, so that would be one dimensional.

Three dimensions would require a separate axis, the z-axis, and for 3D politics I am not entirely sure what the axis would entail once you have the social and financial aspects accounted for.

O you know what I mean.

reply to post by amfirst1


Well nationalism and racial superiority are both very right wing concepts to the point of fascist, which is what the Nazis were. So why claim they are left wing when they stand for right wing concepts? There is a world outside the US and I'm sure the OP would have been referring to a broader audience than just the US. Try looking outside the box.

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There are many different charts. Although that chart may apply to other countries. It does not work for every country depending on what they are founded on.

For instance, the united states is founded on liberty with a limited government w/ republic constitutional powers.

The right in America are conservatives, meaning to conserve the way the country was originally founded on. That's why they are called Republicans = Republic constitution.

However, overtime Republicans became more progressives because they added the religious twists and the Neo Cons who are progressives took over the party. Thus, they are no longer represent their base and original republicans.

Libertarians to be are the closes resemblance of what the framers intended America to be. They sit in the center to the right.

The left in America are Democrats meaning to use democratic procedures like voting to change laws in America for the better or the worst. Thus, they are called progressives. It can be use for good or bad depending what goals are set.

reply to post by wurzalgnu


The nazis were authoritarian right, not libertarian right.

Please see the above graphics.

amfirst1
reply to post by crazyewok

 

U can a more free market. but if u have a big brother police state, that still represents big government.

Yes but its still right a right leaning country as it has a free market which is by deffnintion right. You just have a Totalitarian right leaning country.

amfirst1
Tyranny needs big government otherwise u would not be able to control the much bigger masses.

Tyranny can be found right or left. End of.

amfirst1
My interpretation is more align with the framers interpretation for America.

I doubt you interpreate it right. If it is then its a very rubbish simplistic view worthy of a child and likley why the USA is in such a state as you cant grasp that economic concepts are separate to political concepts.

What you want is a right leaning country with minimal goverment.

What you have now is a center right leaning country with moderate/ heavy goverment.

North Korea is a Far left leaning country with extremly heavy goverment,

Norway is center left with a moderate goverment

Singapore Far right with Heavy goverment

Bahamas Far right with light/moderate Goverment


It much more complex than big or small goverment, to say otherwise is stupid.