Iran says "Tall White Space Aliens" control America

My bad. NVM

reply to post by boncho


We can even take this a step beyond Sorcha Faal. Do you remember several months ago, back in July, when there was an article posted to ATS (thread now apparently gone unfortunately) making the claim of Snowden providing UFO leaks? Well, that article was being hosted by the now defunct Internet Chronicle.su. Here was the original link to the "story": www.chronicle.su...

The title was "Snowden reveals UFO documents after receiving asylum in Venezuela".

Do note the sickle and the hammer on the browser tab. Yep--the original source was a Georgian website and not the American Georgia either.

Internet Chronicle's twitter on July 5th makes this site the original source with the Snowden UFO leak "revelations":

Revealed to staked-out reporters existence of subterranean ultraterrestrials. No more secret intermediaries!

twitter.com...

Internet Chronicle of Georgia was a website that admitted that they sometimes produced false and outrageous stories. Can't see that now as the site is gone but there's actually a quote on their twitter that was from their original about page.

So essentially what we have here is a self-admitted hoaxster site producing a false Snowden UFO leak story that gets picked up and regurgitated by Sorcha Faal, which then in turn gets picked up by Fars and now is being talked about on Forbes.

Welcome to the modern day version of the Telephone Game brought to you by well, Communists. How's that for a conspiracy?

Skyfloating

boncho
Hahahahaha.

Iran fell for Sorcha Fail

Or there are other reasons - unknown to the public - they easily embrace a story like that.

The thread is asking: Why would Iran embrace stories like these?

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Because they are jealous and wish they had ourTall White Alien leaders.

Skyfloating
reply to post by zazzafrazz

 

Some weird History for you:

Vedic sources tell of a very ancient conflict between the Sura (sun worshippers) and the Asura (translated as "Demons", literally anti-sun-worshippers). The Asura and the Aryans were enemies of the Sura. Asura became Assyria which became Syria and Aryan became Iran. Today Syria and Iran are still allies against the Sura, represented by U.S./Israel.

edit on 14-1-2014 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)

Set the "snake", Shems failed post diluvian effort to squash sun warship coming out of the Sumerian area. Did manage to kill Nimrods son or Nimrod himself perhaps. Ended up falling back to Jerusalem after the famous "battle of 400" and building the "city of peace". Also related to, uncle of Abraham, the Hebrews whose nativity as a race comes out of north Syria. Sura could easily be a word for Sumeria and Asura for North Tigris/Euphrates area.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Well... look up the "ceremony" Iran put on to announce their refinement of uranium a few years ago... the dance is pretty classic, in a second grade manner, anyway. (Edit: 2006 Nuclear Technology Day Ceremony)

It takes on ominous overtones when one realizes these people might have an atomic device.

They are a "rustic" people, at least the fundamentalists running the country are, anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if they believed this White Alien tale, or if it was the finest fruit of many man hours spent by their intelligence apparatus to discredit the 'humungous satan'... either way...

Will this be hoax binned? Laughed at... or (thunder peals) the absolute truth of our reality?!

reply to post by Skyfloating


I love Ahmadenijad, I suppose I shouldn't, but I do, the guy has a wicked sense of humour.

He's such a naughty #-stirring little git. What's not to love?

SleepyOwl
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

I don't know for sure if the government is influenced by aliens (though it wouldn't surprise me if it were), but I do think aliens are visiting our planet. There are far too many seemingly sane people who say that they have seen UFOs, and too many high ranking government officials speaking out about it. I don't know what these people would have to gain by saying that aliens are visiting us, so to me that makes it more convincing. Also, we are actively "searching" for life in our universe, so who is to say that other civilizations aren't doing it too and found us in the process. The only difference is that they have the technology to actually travel to these places.

I've been following this story too... And like I said, I'm not sure if they're ruling our government. If they are, we got a crappy deal and I hope that one of the better alien races that are supposedly visiting us can usurp who is currently in charge. If not, I sincerely hope they beam me up and take me home with them.

This planet already has "ways" to travel to other planets. One of the importants reason to invade afghanistan was their stargates among other ME countries

Oh god, next they'll be saying the Holocaust never happened


Oh wait...

Biggest fallacy in human history: UFO's = ALIENS

FACT: There is a UFO phenomenon happing on earth
FACT: In the late 1930's, Nazis (Viktor Schauberger) were trying to create disk shaped crafts with anti-gravitational properties.

Why is is so hard to believe that the UFO phenomenon is a result of advanced human technology?

What I do know: Is if "I" were TPTB... and I had been technologically outdone by Germans, who were my biggest enemy/threat... I would find it in my best interest to create the illusion that "Space Aliens" were responsible.. giving the public just enough information to draw the conclusion themselves. I won't list the advantages, being that they are pretty obvious.

OPINION: In my mind, it is much more rational to believe that the Germans, based on complex alternative methods, made scientific breakthroughs that enabled them to produce crafts that are so advanced that it seems "Alien"

Its no secrete that the Nazis/Germans were taking steps toward colonizing Antarctica, and no one would dare question their capabilities of digging huge underground tunnels/bases.

Is it just a coincidence that sightings in places like South America and Australia are so common that its practically normal to the people who live there?


I think the real question should be whether or not such an advanced extra-TERRITORIAL race would be in cooperation with the "TPBP"


PARADOX: Go tell a person that openly believes in Aliens, that it is more plausible that some Nazi's escaped WW2 and are really the ones who invented the flying saucer. 99 times out of 100 they will think your crazy.



For the record: I don't believe anything, but i do try to consider everything.

whats that?
stargate was a documentary you say!

reply to post by boncho

"There's aliens on Saturn's moon, on Venus and Mars…"

At some point we will find this to be true.

gort51

HanoiLullaby
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Interestingly, all of this appears to be true.

To Iranians, who are generally as a population smaller than Americans and have darker skin, would see Americans as aliens, if we take alien to mean "Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign".

To an Iranian an American would be a tall, white alien.

On the matter of the US supporting Hitler and his National Socialist Party, there is also some truth to this.


Hitler gave Ford Germany's Highest award for supporting Hitler from 1924 to 1944. George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
This was confirmed by files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

Hitler had no problem with American Industries as None of Americas Companies were Nationalised in the build up to WWII. Ford Chrysler Built all of Hitler's Trucks whilst GM'S German factory Built Hitler's Tanks and Standard Oil was supplying the Nazis with fuel and oil up to 1944 and was SKF supplying all of NAZI Germany's Ball bearings until 1945.


It seems, without the need to resort to extra terrestrials, the Iranians were not entirely incorrect.

What Complete and utter RUBBISH.....America built Nazi tanks????????

No wonder America is going crazy.

German Panzer and Tiger tanks were built by Daimler Benz, MAN, Krupp, und Reinsmetall-Borsig.

Ford and Chrysler were too busy building Liberators (Ford) and Chrysler Radial engines and Dodge Trucks.
Not to mention other armory. GM also built trucks, airplane parts etc. Packard even built the Rolls Royce Merlin v16 engines under license, for Mustangs etc.

Just do some research.

Where do you people get these stupid ideas?????

Lot of places.

Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration

During the war, the car companies established a reputation for themselves as "the arsenal of democracy" by transforming their production lines to make airplanes, tanks and trucks for the armies that defeated Adolf Hitler. They deny that their huge business interests in Nazi Germany led them, wittingly or unwittingly, to also become "the arsenal of fascism."

www.washingtonpost.com...

At that time, which was before the U.S. entered the War and still had full diplomatic relations with Nazi Germany, Ford-Werke was under the control of the Ford Motor Company. The number of slave laborers grew as the war expanded although Wallace made it clear that companies in Germany were not required by the Nazi authorities to use slave laborers.

www.ranknfile-ue.org...

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jaffo

gort51

HanoiLullaby
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Interestingly, all of this appears to be true.

To Iranians, who are generally as a population smaller than Americans and have darker skin, would see Americans as aliens, if we take alien to mean "Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign".

To an Iranian an American would be a tall, white alien.

On the matter of the US supporting Hitler and his National Socialist Party, there is also some truth to this.


Hitler gave Ford Germany's Highest award for supporting Hitler from 1924 to 1944. George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
This was confirmed by files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

Hitler had no problem with American Industries as None of Americas Companies were Nationalised in the build up to WWII. Ford Chrysler Built all of Hitler's Trucks whilst GM'S German factory Built Hitler's Tanks and Standard Oil was supplying the Nazis with fuel and oil up to 1944 and was SKF supplying all of NAZI Germany's Ball bearings until 1945.


It seems, without the need to resort to extra terrestrials, the Iranians were not entirely incorrect.

What Complete and utter RUBBISH.....America built Nazi tanks????????

No wonder America is going crazy.

German Panzer and Tiger tanks were built by Daimler Benz, MAN, Krupp, und Reinsmetall-Borsig.

Ford and Chrysler were too busy building Liberators (Ford) and Chrysler Radial engines and Dodge Trucks.
Not to mention other armory. GM also built trucks, airplane parts etc. Packard even built the Rolls Royce Merlin v16 engines under license, for Mustangs etc.

Just do some research.

Where do you people get these stupid ideas?????

Where do they get their ideas? It's simple, they scan the cruddiest corners of the web for ANY story heaping derision upon the U.S. and they run with it. Because America is and always has been evil. Don't you see this?!

I think you are missing the point. Big business wants to make money...that is it. Has nothing to do with America in particular.

reply to post by Fromabove

you wouldn't be likely to believe Snowden leak

Did we ever establish that he leaked this? I missed that.

ThePeaceMaker
Am I missing something ? How comes this isn't in the hoax bin already ?

The last thread started on the very same article went into the Hoax Bin immediately, this one is carefully worded

reply to post by Char-Lee


Excellent post, Char-Lee. Even in my Cost Accounting course, Ford's interactions with Nazi Germany were mentioned. According to that class, Ford's vision was to improve the world and encourage peace through improved manufacturing and trade and so he had a direct hand in stimulating what would become Germany's war machine. What wasn't mentioned in the class was Ford's anti-semitic views and support of anti-semitic literature: en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by WhiteAlice

Internet Chronicle of Georgia was a website that admitted that they sometimes produced false and outrageous stories. Can't see that now as the site is gone

Sometimes when people come out and admit stuff like that, you have to wonder if they were forced to, because they did tell the truth.

reply to post by SUBKONCIOUS

Why is is so hard to believe that the UFO phenomenon is a result of advanced human technology?

Because your idea does not cover things like the pilots who flew through a "foo fighter" orb, and the many other stories which seem to be believeable.

reply to post by Skyfloating


People continue to fall for this?

Before this it was "Top Secret Wikileaks Documents Confirm Alien Presence" or some crap.

The hoax-mongers out there love to do this, as it apparently bolsters their bogus nonsense. Bit of advice, next time you see "Edward Snowden" and any paranormal or alien crap in the same sentence, it's bogus. That goes for the next big leaker as well.

KilgoreTrout
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

I love Ahmadenijad, I suppose I shouldn't, but I do, the guy has a wicked sense of humour.

He's such a naughty #-stirring little git. What's not to love?

He also stood down at the end of his last term in August last year. His successor, Hassan Rouhani is the current Iranian president..

Char-Lee
reply to post by WhiteAlice

 

Internet Chronicle of Georgia was a website that admitted that they sometimes produced false and outrageous stories. Can't see that now as the site is gone

Sometimes when people come out and admit stuff like that, you have to wonder if they were forced to, because they did tell the truth.

Or, alternatively, they know that people are lazy and are not going to adequately check the source of information before churning it out as if it is true. Having a little disclaimer comes in handy because it offsets the blame from it being a deliberate disinformation attempt to "ahh well, it's just satire" so that the blame falls on the reader and not the site, itself. Saying it's "just satire" is apparently a great way to get away with a whole lot of things.

I can also confirm that the original source of the story was quickly dumped into the Hoax bin after the about page of the source site, Internet Chronicle, was found. Numerous posters here on ATS uncovered that.

P.S. The same site also published stories such as Obama pardoning "Chelsea" Manning and that Justin Bieber was dead. References to those articles can also be found on the Internet Chronicle site...err twitter.