Iran says "Tall White Space Aliens" control America

reply to post by boncho

Hellyer being Canada's former defence minister possibly suffering senility, also believes aliens live on venus and mars, etc, etc.

Oh dear…

Not sure what disclosure is to you, but this is an ex head of security/defense for our nation, and what he knew is way beyond what all the skeptics do.

Aliens on mars, go figure eh! Real stretch!!!

The tall whites are NOT the problem, in any case.....Iran is stationed amongst the desert/sand/snakes in the grass, and Marduk types, go figure. Hard core bases there, and they are the predator types.

I'm going to add to this, because if its time for the middle east to grow up and stop abusing women and children, and harming others, using bruatlaity and violence to control and abuse and enslave people and run theocracies. REALLY BAD ET's, HELLZONE ONES ARE RULING THE MIDDLE EAST. THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES TOO. ANYWHERE WHERE ABUSE OF EQUALITY AND FREEDOM TAKES PLACE AND SUFFERING OCCURS.

They want to talk about the NAZI's, well the NAZI's Loved Sharia and fanned up the size of the Brotherhood under Banna at the time, and they became black ops for the satanist royal family of england who rules just about everything with some bankers! The NAZI's liked the harsh ETs running the middle east and the third world country. Thats the group they hang out with. I've pretty much always known this, and my soul also knows, "we're here" waiting, because renegades get rounded up and thats the deal.

reply to post by zazzafrazz


One also has to remember that the particular muslim sect in Iran are waiting for thier "messiah" the 12th Iman - to come out of the well and lead all muslims to kill the non-believers - thus issuing a "new muslim world" -

You don't have to believe it , but they do -

The whole "alien" thing just reeks of demonology to me -

Do some homework and look into the different religions of the world, and their strange beliefs.

reply to post by Unity_99


actually he admits in interview somhwere he never learnt anything about ufos in his job. The info hes getting is coming from 2nd rate ufoers like Charles hall

AthlonSavage
reply to post by Unity_99

 

actually he admits in interview somhwere he never learnt anything about ufos in his job. The info hes getting is coming from 2nd rate ufoers like Charles hall

This right here ^

He began years ago saying, "I think there's more information on UFOs than the public knows about."

Then he went to saying, "There's aliens on Saturn's moon, on Venus and Mars…"

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No comments from Unity on the aliens from Venus?

Oh and there's a portal in Peru.

If he didn't learn this stuff on the job, he's no different than you or I saying the same thing. You have to at least present a plausible take of how you can about the information. Or who it's from. Or… something…

HanoiLullaby
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Interestingly, all of this appears to be true.

To Iranians, who are generally as a population smaller than Americans and have darker skin, would see Americans as aliens, if we take alien to mean "Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign".

To an Iranian an American would be a tall, white alien.

On the matter of the US supporting Hitler and his National Socialist Party, there is also some truth to this.


Hitler gave Ford Germany's Highest award for supporting Hitler from 1924 to 1944. George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
This was confirmed by files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

Hitler had no problem with American Industries as None of Americas Companies were Nationalised in the build up to WWII. Ford Chrysler Built all of Hitler's Trucks whilst GM'S German factory Built Hitler's Tanks and Standard Oil was supplying the Nazis with fuel and oil up to 1944 and was SKF supplying all of NAZI Germany's Ball bearings until 1945.


It seems, without the need to resort to extra terrestrials, the Iranians were not entirely incorrect.

What Complete and utter RUBBISH.....America built Nazi tanks????????

No wonder America is going crazy.

German Panzer and Tiger tanks were built by Daimler Benz, MAN, Krupp, und Reinsmetall-Borsig.

Ford and Chrysler were too busy building Liberators (Ford) and Chrysler Radial engines and Dodge Trucks.
Not to mention other armory. GM also built trucks, airplane parts etc. Packard even built the Rolls Royce Merlin v16 engines under license, for Mustangs etc.

Just do some research.

Where do you people get these stupid ideas?????

reply to post by gort51


calm down gort most Ufos believers like myself no the tall white story is government disinfo.

Skyfloating
reply to post by zazzafrazz

 

Some weird History for you:

Vedic sources tell of a very ancient conflict between the Sura (sun worshippers) and the Asura (translated as "Demons", literally anti-sun-worshippers). The Asura and the Aryans were enemies of the Sura. Asura became Assyria which became Syria and Aryan became Iran. Today Syria and Iran are still allies against the Sura, represented by U.S./Israel.

edit on 14-1-2014 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)

That is just weird, not technically history....

Where does the Vedic text state that "Today Syria and Iran are still allies against the Sura, represented by U.S./Israel."

I'd love to read that

zazzafrazz


I'd love to read that :

Well...in that post I put about 10 000 pages of reading material + my own interpretation of it into one sentence. I actually wanted to go back and delete it because it deserves a thread and OP of its own, but you already quoted it.

I don't thing any government of any country would read an article on the internet and immediately decide that it's true.

There is certainly a lot in common with the US today compared to Nazi Germany prior to WWII. Very interesting.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Your question is a good one. I think they don't believe it, but rather are putting it out there to sway some of the people from agreeing with the Nuclear Treaty.

Something else here seems a bit off, why would this piece be in the "Space" section of the site and not the Political section? It looks like a very poor attempt to sway the "Nerd-Factor" in Iran.

One last thing about this, why didn't Forbes point out that Sorcha Faal isn't a reliable news source? This whole thing looks like political play more then any one believing this trash.

****NOTE OF DISCLOSURE****

I have heard of this story before (the Aliens working with the US after Germany started to lose the war part by a person who would have been in the "know" at the time, but I never could tell if it was true or just dis-information)

Wait, wait. Really? Iran fell for a Sucha Fail?



That's either some baaad fact checking on their part, or a really boring day in Iran.

reply to post by Skyfloating

No matter whether thats true or not, if people - especially people in power - believe that, its going to affect all of us.

What do you think ATS...do those in power really believe in this stuff?

So you and Iran are worried about aliens? You wonder if people in power believe this stuff?

Try this-

Let's take a scenario where very powerful world leaders believe in an imaginary guy who lives in the sky, who is all-powerful and all-knowing. These leaders pray to this imaginary guy in the sky. Some leaders believe the guy in the sky had a kid, who came here and died on a cross, then went back up into the sky with his dad. While other powerful leaders believe in the guy in the sky, they don't believe the guy in the sky had a kid who came here and died. So, let's take these 2 groups of powerful world leaders and for brevity's sake, label them C's and J's from now on.

So the C and J powerful world leaders believe there will be a battle for Earth in the near future and even have the spot picked out. This place is in a quiet little country called Israel and is named Mediggo.

Now these leaders of C and J countries believe the battle will be between the guy who lives in the sky and some other weird dudes. There's the fiery guy who lives in a place where flames burn forever, some guy named Anti-opposite of guy in the sky's kid. Basically, these powerful world leaders believe that most of us will end up dead, either right before, during, and after the final battle . UNLESS, of course, you go to these buildings where you pray to the imaginary guy who lives in the sky and give him money for some reason(possibly a bribe?). If you do that, the imaginary guy in the sky will somehow save you during this horrendous battle.

So who's really crazy?

Who's crazy you ask?

The people who don't rise up against all state interference in the mind of the electorate it proposes to represent.

The very involvement of religion in Politics undermines any notion of democracy.

Iran's job is to destabalise it's enemies/aggressors so this is just an opportunistic low cost Psy-Op using aliens as the meme and although state sponsored, it is not very good.

and i thought a tall black Alien controls America

reply to post by Nyiah

That's either some baaad fact checking on their part, or a really boring day in Iran.

To be fair, we all keep saying "Iran" but really, it's just someone at Fars News who reposted an article. Not even sure it's an "official" post of the news agency since it is merely a repost of the Sorcha article without any commentary.

This is what a retweet of a bad tweet looks like.

Okay I should correct myself here (take note Iranian journalists.) Since what I have just said is not entirely accurate. Washington Post says that Fars is a semi-official outlet for Iran.

Although I would be interested in knowing if the post was even approved or vetted by anyone, or if it was a mere whim by whoever posted it.

Iran's semi-official news outlets have something of a reputation for taking conspiracy theorism to the next level. They've written on Israel's secret plans to annex Iraq, the conspiracy by Western media to fabricate quotes by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani condemning the Holocaust and the secret Jewishness of the British royal family. You may notice a certain theme here.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Ridicule is strong and I suspect more coming since Forbes and WP are talking about it. I believe I also need to make a correction on the assumption of the forbes article as one of their blog posts.

Technically, it is, sort of. As it comes from a "contributor", but not under "forbes".

More info:

www.poynter.org...

Contributors are any expert, professional, academic with specific knowledge in a field that wants to submit work. Some are journalists some are not. I would still classify as "op ed" style writings. Or blog posts.

reply to post by Skyfloating


What do you think ATS...do those in power really believe in this stuff? Do you?

The truth of the matter is that we want such significant change to the current global situation and balance of power that the 'questionable' source is outweighed by the content of the information.

The US is on a downward spiral, Iran is simply kicking the wounded whilst it is down and taking advantage of a sizable google search protocol - aliens and all that the subject encompasses is a popular social meme, always has been, always will be.

TPTB don't give a ship whether it is believable or not - if you say the lie for long enough, it becomes the new truth.

This is world war 3 - it is a battle for our minds.

I think the original story may more than likely be linked to the "Citizens Hearing for Disclosure" campaign to raise marketing awareness and money for the movie they did, "Truth Embargo."

Paul Hellyer is a big part of the production (as well as the who's who of the CT world) and they have as of yet, underwhelming DVD sales.

Him appearing out in public right now could simply be a means to boost awareness/interest in the production. Either willingly or as a useful idiot.

www.citizenhearing.org...

www.truthembargomovie.com...

Retired congressmen and a senator basically came for a mock hearing about disclosure, were paid 20,000 and people testified to the existence of aliens. Including the "tall whites" which I presume Sorcha Faal saw that as an opportunity after Hellyers appearance on RT news, so he called up his boys to find out rumours "circulating the Kremlin."

Project Camelot has something to say about all the facts, which they claim aliens are egregiously being mixed up and typecasted: projectcamelotportal.com...

Tall whites are Nordics apparently are not the Aldebarans. -straight face-

In any case, Hellyer used to say he had no information on aliens, nor did he have any from the time of his service. But a couple years hanging around with kooks and suddenly he's a wealth of information.

Wether or not aliens are running around in human skin or genetically engineering my dog when I'm not looking, is besides the point. All the information coming from the Iranian source, back to Sorcha Faal, further back to Hellyer and the citizens hearing is suspect, and in most parts reeks of people looking to make a buck without actually wanting to get at the truth.

My inflated 2 dollars. (Worth approximately $0.02)

reply to post by boncho


Fars news is famous for posting onion stories and making up an Iranian time machine that had to be denied by iranian authorities


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A few days ago someone posted a topic saying Russia would attack soudi Arabia based on a fars news article from scorcha.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Indigent
reply to post by boncho

 

Fars news is famous for posting onion stories and making up an Iranian time machine that had to be denied by iranian authorities

Okay, so it is the same one.

I was searching old stories because I remembered about that, coming out of Iran awhile ago, but didn't realize if they had more than a couple news agencies. I wonder if the US has agents there telling them Onion stories and the like are real (Simply to embarrass them). "I swear to you, this is happening, look, it's on the internet!"


Have the right keywords now:

Fars is known for reproducing some of the wildest stories on the internet and presenting them as bylined reportage. Some of them are funny, like the story of an Iranian scientist who invented a laptop-sized time machine (Fars later removed this story). Others are more ominous, such as the report about a nun who claims that Syrian rebels are selling vials of Christian blood to Saudi clients which was reproduced from a U.S. website best-known for its skepticism of Obama’s citizenship.

This editorial policy has come back to bite Fars in the past. In 2012, the news agency faced widespread ridicule for presenting as fact a story from satirical website The Onion that most rural white Americans prefer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to President Obama.

www.huffingtonpost.com...