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There is no one to blame but YOU America…!

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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:13 AM
We lost or way a long time ago. We were once feared, respected, and looked up too all at the same time. We were the jealousy of the world. Now we are just as bad as most police states. Were we ever perfect? hell no. But it was once one of the most desirable places to live in the world.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:17 AM


The world is going to watch as Mystery Bablyon (America) now implodes.

Babylon is the entire system of all mankind's governments/religions at present. All of civilization created in the image of man during the age of man.

The world is going to watch Babylon fall, but the USA is only 1 of the countries, albeit the one that symbolizes the whole of mankind. And it certainly starts here in the USA, but it will not end here; the kingdoms of this age will become the Kingdom of God.

God Bless,

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:26 AM
reply to post by ElohimJD

From what I can tell of history, america lost its way when it lost its unique form a capitalism. The Rockefellers and Vanderbilts. They did what they did fearlessly and included the whole nation and created jobs. The whole point was to WIN. That was good for the whole country. Now the capitalist wants guarantees and government intervention when they fail. And when they fail, they have brainwashed us into believing it is the fault of all kinds of groups of human beings but theirs, wall street.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by Propulsion

This is a really great post. Well thought out and in all pretty much on the money....but why? We know the people have no intentions of changing anything. If they did I would think to say that it would have been done by now. So I find myself wondering why this post? And then can anything really be done at this point to bring about change? Yes I would venture to say so, but what might that be, I'm not quite certain. I do believe that deep down we all have some idea of some of the things we may look forward to, so at this point I sit and just ponder the whole of all , and wait for leaders somewhere to make there moves, whatever they may turn out to be. But as you have said America has no one to blame but themselves, what a legacy on such a people as Americans!

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 01:02 PM
reply to post by xavi1000

Spoken like a true ignorant Person who Apparently dont know no better himself. Ok first of off when you speak of ALL americans are this and that you are a true racist. you know EVERY AMERICAN for this statement to be true. I never meet you dude you never meet my family you have no clue besides what your reading on msn. Do i think every Muslum is a extremist? no i dont. so what in your little mind makes every American the same? because you read such and such on msn it must be true.. what a sheep. Do i think ALL russians hate gays? no each one has there own opinion on it. Just because the Russian pres dont like gays does not = ALL OF RUSSIA hates gays!
There is a big difference in the public of America and the Politicians of America. In case you have not cought on yet. or have noticed that Americans have been stirring issues with this NSA crap. It has already been proven that other countries has been helping to spy on you from Canada to the UK.
AND BTW I belong to many rights groups If you think they set this up to be a easy fight your head is up further up your A%* then what i thought. So when you FLAT OUT LIE. and say every American is just sitting around not doing anything you need to read about whats out there before you make bogus claims.
and Now that more NSA stuff has came out to show other countries have been helping with this why is it that only 1 AMERICAN has came forward about this and not a single person from UK or even Canada has came out with anything on this? but yet ALL Americans are to blame?

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 01:48 PM

You should travel a little more and you can see that US is in top 20 countries about standard , economy , life longevity, individual freedom etc etc.If you dont like it than leave or replace your citizenship with someone who wants to live in US. 80 % of World population desperately wants your place.It's holidays , be positive at least once in the year.

If americans travelled a bit more they would see that they really are not.. it's true that people from 3rd world countries want your place, but that is only because americans have higher sallaries. NOT because you are, "more free" than other free people. I live well enough where I am.. I go to college and don't have to worry about being $200 000 in debt when i finish. when I get, for example, a cut on my arm.. I don't have to pay 500$ for stitches.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 01:56 PM
reply to post by jude11

too late?
there's more then 300 MILLION of you!!
what the hell?
do you people not know how to protest?
freedom is not free
freedom is also like any other property, leave it unattended and it eventually gets stolen.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:37 PM
You are wrong not to prep. The thing is no one has the power to fix the America that is broken. America will be easier to fix after the collapse. The leaders of the NSA, CIA, etc. are psychopathic and are destroying America and themselves with their internal and foreign policies. Since they are crazy they don't realize they are committing suicide. They think they will be safe. After the collapse most of the powerful people responsible for the collapse will be dead. When most of the people die who is going to do work for the elite? There will be no one to make their lattes and cappacinos.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 04:07 PM
reply to post by Propulsion

So, it begs to ask the questions, is this nothing but a waste of my time?

Is there really NO hope for America?

I believe we are beyond hope...Not enough people care and our current gov't is no longer set up to defend the sovereignty of this once great Nation or those of us who do care...

I don't blame the preppers...The preppers won't last long when it hits...

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 04:15 PM
The title says it all.

How your country could allow itself to be in the mess that it is I fail to understand.

Your Constitution is still a world leader and your history, although shallow in years has depth in its breadth and has crammed a lot in since 1766.

The statue in NY harbour meant so much to so many, a beacon of hope for the oppressed and a lot of your countrymen gave their lives in successive wars to enshrine all of this into the cultural racial mix that is USA.

Many times I have visited your country, I love it and it's true people of all colours and creeds, so hospitable, the deep history of the South, for all it's problems with slavery, still holds a fascination and the traditions of the Gullahs and the Geechees have left a footprint on the Lowcountries that you should be eager and proud to acknowledge, but unless you have been there to see for yourself and speak with them you will not even begin to understand what Mitchelville, Hilton Head Island, SC was all about.

What was the Civil War about, more than power and $'s, it was about freedom for goodness sake. Why are you sleepwalking, your country still has so much to offer despite your current problems. Look at the housing that was provided in Washington State recently for the homeless that had previously been moved on by the police. The churches gave them some sanctuary and eventually some subsidised housing made available. It's a chink of light breaking through a dark curtain.

Don't waste the opportunity folks, springboard, ATS is not just a talking shop and TPTB do sometimes react to public opinion - it's on ATS, it must be true!

Get a grip over the pond, be less materialistic in your rose tinted views that the majority see life through.

Off you go then, don't spend so much time listening to the shills and ne'er do wells that frequent ATS, stop being Sheeple and show your true colours. Time to wake up.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 04:31 PM


You should travel a little more and you can see that US is in top 20 countries about standard , economy , life longevity, individual freedom etc etc.If you dont like it than leave or replace your citizenship with someone who wants to live in US. 80 % of World population desperately wants your place.It's holidays , be positive at least once in the year.

I should think a real citizen who loves their country would take action to fix things and/or call attention to the problems rather than pack up and move.

I think the love it or leave it style rhetoric is a bit disengenuine an we can love our country but at the same time want some changes to happen.

That said, happy holidays!!!

(I don't necessarily agree with the OP - your comment just caught my attention)

call attention to the problems?? got FOX NEWS doing that every friggin' day, websites, blogs, newspapers, constant drumbeat of people telling me how bad our government is and knowing exactly how to correct it.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 05:23 PM
What to do?
I would 1st declare a national emergency and nationalize buisness and industry to pivot and focus on infrastructure recovery. I would repurpose the DHS to become Department of Health and Science so scientists can find jobs outside of the military industrial complex.All federal law enforcement will be under the FBI all of it.The FBI will handshake with local LEOs to see that existing laws are enforced. DHS 1st project will be to develop high rise farms for large cites to include research into replacements for chemicals that are used in food with replacements that will not kill someone. Education will be restructured to the individual,enough of this BS production line We will also have another year of education ,senior capstone.Here you will be placed in a job and a studio residence.For the first month you will be supervised.the idea here is to get you the ability to survive on your own.
Jobs will be found in revergent industries. The legal system will be required to correct the error of elitism aka all preceedings will spoken in the common tonge. Violent criminal s will get hard labor. Thieves have to work to pay their victims who ,so long as they are found to be truthful,will be the primary focus. Adultery is a civil crime against your spouse ,enough of this rampant behavior outside of wedlock.If you want out divorce.
The medical system will immediately restructure to cure,they will fall under the DHS banner as well as the department of interior where uninhabited areas will be developed,Death Valley comes to mind. I bet some folks from Japan will need some homes soon.
Our military will need to restructure to become a more effective defensive force it will be kept at cold war strength.
The Draft will now include employment in infrastructure and science.
The idea is rebuild production industry and put in place trade laws to support it.
Goods will be durable and modularized cars are a piece by piece deal. No more disposable tech or hardwareThe environment requires it. Recycling will done correctly and landfills will begin to reclaim all non toxic refuse we can POSSIBLY repurpose.

That's MY suggestion.
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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 05:53 PM
reply to post by cavtrooper7

Ok. You have my vote.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 06:44 PM
reply to post by benrl

Because united we are Powerful, Divided we are easily controlled.

I agree with this and this obviously being the only thing they understand.
Some more lives will have to be sacrificed. I'm willing if I'm sure it will not be in vain.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 07:23 PM
Please differentiate between Americans and America. Americans would be the civilians living in the USA, America would be the the great business power of government, oil, banks, a large portion of the people behind the wheel and behind the desks controlling the poor bastards dong what they're told or face court martial or more. I really don't see this scale of escalation continuing before SOMETHING snaps. The old timers that stand behind EVERYTHING AMERICA does are slowly dropping like flys. When the next generation (X) takes there place, there will be no AMERICANS to take this submissive position.
Please do not think I stand behind many of our past presidents but, there is little arguement against the opinion that no president prior to Obama had f'd things up anywhere NEAR this mess we have now.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 07:38 PM

reply to post by Propulsion

“How do you look at Americans, and tell them that they are responsible for America going to hell in a hand basket”?

The average American is not to blame. Most people are just trying to pay their bills and take care of their families.

LOL!! The average American is not to blame, in a democracy.
The "average" American is precisely who is to blame for our current mess.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 07:43 PM




The Land of the Brave.

The home of the Free.

Seeing that our Country is not that, does not make me anti american, or make me hate America, It makes me a Citizen who loves his country but has his eyes wide open.

You would think that if our motto was as such that it would be a staple and foundation that we build our children through institutions.....institutions, what an interesting word. There's not much bravery here. For every one brave American there are countless cowards.

We are taught to be cowards. We are not taught to do anything for ourselves, like babies flailing about in this world. There is no freedom to speak of here either, in fact there never was. Even that is an illusion written in history books by the victors. Or every generation speaks well about the generation prior but even than was pretty #ty.

Our entire history is riddled with war and pillaging for as long as history is written. If it's not the US its someone else and that's the truth. If the mightiest nation became "loving" another nation would fill that void. I got to admit, I'm pretty ashamed to be human.

Truth! In my 30 or so years, I have never once seen an American commit an act of bravery. Sorry, but it's true.

Remember, babies: It's all marketing. All that stuff you heard about America, those are all ad slogans. Public relations. Don't believe the hype.

If I ever meet a brave American outside of my mirror, I'll let you guys know. Til then, America's slogans remain as either blatantly cynical feel-good marketing, or secretly sarcastic.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 07:47 PM
This is where capitalism + democracy has gotten us. It's a really sickening combination of money and popularity ruling everything. Does that REALLY sound like a good idea to anyone??? Money and mob rule???

(I am NOT advocating socialism in any form either, as that's clearly another form of mob rule and just an offshoot of our usual crap)
edit on 26-12-2013 by rawheroine because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 09:38 PM
reply to post by rawheroine

Apparently, none of you guys have seen a woman birth an 11 pound baby. The only courage left in the US in through its women.

posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 10:17 PM
Watchout what you type.

NDAA2014 and NDAA2013 is watching. Its OK to be a coward when you are a minority group. But then again, 300Mil is not a minority.

Shall I say "Occupy White House" ?
I know it wont happen, there are no balls, those who have balls are already in the jail, and that even without activating NDAA.

Its easy to know that people aware that they are helplessly weak, they start pointing finger blaming at each other.

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