Kilauea Volcano threatens entire Pacific Rim with possible Mega Tsunami 100 ft high at L. A. ?

Zaphod58
reply to post by carewemust

 

When the Gilbert Inlet suffered an earthquake in 1958, a 30 million cubic meter area of rock slipped into the Lituya Bay. The resulting tsunami was 1720 feet tall. The Hilina Slump is 5,000 cubic MILES of land.

Thanks for the reminder of that (was it the History or Science Channel) installment Zaphod. It was shocking even in the tank simulation. Also had the dubious discomfort of watching the father-and-son firsthand account of that one on the fishing launch.. if we're on the same page, it was like a half mountain dumping into the blind end of a short fjord. Trees scrubbed off the valley walls 120 or 150 feet high, OMG... duck and hold your nose.

But this is really as bad as it gets, being the economy sized real time event just like the simulation-- when there's nowhere but straight out in a plane wave and nowhere else to go. Just the same--- those poor guys.

Might not be as bad over a whole ocean's distance away though.
If you think of it like a sound wave, circular in form on the open water and expanding all the time, the tsunami's intensity decreases over distance due to the area effected. 6dB rule; so as the wave fans out its destructive potential (height and force) decreases as the square of the distance. It's why N Oz didn't get it near as badly as Indonesia, because Jakarta were about ringside.

I'm personally too close to the New Madrid and stuck in a blue area on that 2015 Navy map to worry over here. I'm swamped like a box elder bug in a car wash... like 45-60 miles from beachfront property LOL.

This thread may be drifting a little and I apologisze for my end, but there IS an old friend who whistled off a CDR from Hawaii: his last three of five hitches doing CG chopper aircraft commander, rescue/recovery. "Pumice blasts turbine parts, chokes compressors and in general makes you plummet." I'll take Dallas' word for it... even if at the time it sounded Python-y.
I never asked him about autorotation through a 0-0 fog of spunky igneous rock dust: but I'm also glad he never brought it up.
"I do love doom porn; God help me I do love it so." in my worst George C. Scott......

Zaphod58
reply to post by carewemust

 

My first double.. at this point it might be good to blow up that air mattress, get the particulate cans for the gas mask, charge the tanks and put the work tools in a sealed up kayak. Then when the big one hits I'll never be ready anyway.

edit on 16-12-2013 by derfreebie because: Double post, still crazy after all that Paul Simon

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reply to post by Elphineas


One good thing about living out in the western suburbs of Sydney I guess! Where I live is one of the higher points in Sydney (aside from the Blue Mountains). There would be a Huuuuge amount of loss if we got hit with a Tsunami.

I had thought about what would happen if we were hit by one...we're about 30-40 k's from the shoreline. Hopefully, we will never have to worry about something like that happening - it would be awful.

reply to post by 727Sky


.... um... the wave would be nothing compared to the west coast 'fukushimas'.... ouch!

reply to post by 727Sky
Will it affect San Francisco? My daughter only has one year left of college out there before she's done and can start thinking about going someplace DECENT to work on her PhD. AS far as L.A., and Tidal Waves, and volcano's, think that was a late night movie on tv a few years back wasn't it? Also, this is the "fragile Earth" forum right? So, what? I'm supposed to be impressed by what nature can do? I don't have to be reminded. We nuked Japan remember? Nature is like 50 Quadrillion times more powerful than that, so, yeah, I get it, I just want to know one thing. Why? Why should I care?

Finally, a perk to living in Chicago, IL.. No Tsunami's to worry about

But I do need to 'bob & weave' giant tornado's, but I guess I can't complain. I giant tsunami is freaky as hell to even think about...

Do they have any realistic expectation to if/when this could even happen or is it like the Yellowstone eruption where we have a 600000 window

I guess we gotta watch out for large EQs in that region, I'm guessing if it falls into the ocean it will be due to that...

Why? Why should I care?

reply to post by tencap77


Many would not care as long as they personally are not affected.... while others would morn the loss of life even though they (the deceased) were strangers.. Just change the channel and pass the chicken when it happens seems to be the norm for many IMO until something bad happens to them.... and then they are the ones screaming why isn't someone helping and doing something!

Hopefully all of us will be dead and gone from natural causes before this type event happens...

reply to post by 727Sky


A landslide triggers a 125 ft tsunami at the same time as an earthquake sets off Yellowstone, at the same time as an asteroid hits NYC from the east. Long live America.

reply to post by derfreebie


geology.com... heres some more info with some prety cool pictures of that super tsunami.imagine seeing that massive wall of water......


hvo.wr.usgs.gov... really old link(1998) related to the op




chuma.cas.usf.edu... PDF titled "EVALUATION OF THE THREAT OF MEGA TSUNAMI GENERATION FROM
POSTULATED MASSIVE SLOPE FAILURES OF ISLAND STRATOVOLCANOES ON LA
PALMA, CANARY ISLANDS, AND ON THE ISLAND OF HAWAII""

jhn7537
Finally, a perk to living in Chicago, IL.. No Tsunami's to worry about

But I do need to 'bob & weave' giant tornado's, but I guess I can't complain. I giant tsunami is freaky as hell to even think about...
..

Uhhhhh . . . perhaps Chicago is not as purely safe as you might imagine.

A number of folks have had dreams and visions of the Great Lake above Chicago sloshing wholesale over it's boundaries and then 'emptying' i.e. as in with a new outlet down the Mississippi valley forming a new long, wide arm of the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the Great Lake . . . with Chicago mostly obliterated accordingly.

Who knows the accuracy of such . . . but given the many "future maps" that outline such a thing to one degree or another . . . it is interesting.

Chicago might get it's long needed "cleansing" more than it consciously bargained for.

In terms of the OP . . .

It seems to me that there is a growing list of major hazards, looming disasters more than a little potentially on the not distant horizon.

I used to read about Christian prophetic sources telling folks to ask God if they should move and doing accordingly. Now most are saying to ask God if they should stay and otherwise moving ASAP.

We do live in an interesting era . . . for sure.

A short video which explains the process and some of what has happened before.



The big island earthquake and what might follow


Even a small 3 or 4 foot wave depending on the topography can be devastating;

No one ever (EVER!) predicts these before they occur and Murphy's Law dictates that anything we do prepare for will likely be superseded by the actual event.

As such... meh.

reply to post by nugget1


And my point is thatall that effort is pointless when mother nature comes knocking! All that effort could have been spent on civil defence against such natrual disarsters.

I dont hate america, if i did i wouldnt be sad millions will die. I just hate the pointlesd direction the usa went in, the usa is so much wasted potential.

No time else in known human history have 7 billion pairs of feet trampled the Earth. It doesn't matter what you do, at any given time millions of lives hang in the balance waiting for one of these disasters. We were almost eliminated a few tens of thousands of years ago, if I remember correctly through the RNA tracking determination. The next time is going to be an incredibly huge mess!

Geez. Sounds bad. But if you had enough hours of warning, instead of trying to rush inland and up into the mountains it might be smarter to get on a boat and head out to sea. At least if the weather is fair enough. Get out far out enough from the coast you'll miss the surge. (Might get an experience like a crazy elevator ride, but your boat should remain intact and upright and you'll survive ok.)

ItCameFromOuterSpace
reply to post by 727Sky

 

It really isn't a good idea to live next to the ocean on any coast.

I've lived on the coast all my life first in NY then in VA. We have a saying that goes. If you want to live near the water occassinally you have to expect to live in the water. High tides from storms are a problem in this part of Virginia particularly. Norfolk is notorious for flooding.

reply to post by 727Sky


Yep and there's an island on in the Atlantic that could do the same thing to the east coast of the US.

Not that anyone will believe it, but so far as the volcano in the Canaries is concerned:

Historically, volcanic island landslides do NOT cause massive tsunamis

Glad I live on the east coast....

There's a similar landslide setting up in the Atlantic as well, who knows which will go first.