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posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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reply to post by LDragonFire
 


No i was going from your quote. See how easily things can be miss represented?

Just like how they said Obama care was going to be universal....how the tables have turned.



President Obama used a campaign-style trip to Texas on Wednesday to rally liberals on his sputtering health care law, calling it a system of “universal health care” and calling out Texas Republicans for, he said, denying health insurance to 1 million state residents. Read more: www.washingtontimes.com... Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


Washington Times




posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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TheWrightWing

Remember kids: It's "Affordable" because that's what it says on the tin!

Repeat after me: Affordable Care Act.

Why, it's easy enough to chant mindlessly, so you know it's good!



So maybe if i keep telling people arsenic isn't poison it will change into some wonder drug?

Too bad 600k Americans already took the bait.



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 02:26 PM
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Aother Obamacare Statistic: Skin in the game. Your skin.

Virginia Cancer Patient's Insurance Terminated Due To ObamaCare

News report from WDBJ 7 broadcast

What did you think Obama meant by 'everyone is going to have to sacrifice'?


"And eventually sacrifice from everyone?" I asked.

"Everybody’s going to have to give. Everybody’s going to have to have some skin in the game," Obama said.


Everybody in the country is going to have to sacrifice something, accept change for the greater good



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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The ones who have the money are going to take in in the rear.
The ones who have their hand out are giving it.
The ones with nothing get it all for free.


Talk about a communistic twist to democracy.



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 02:45 PM
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The Obamacare Statistics keep rolling in!

They lost their insurance and now the bite wounds on their bums from voting for Obama will not be covered:

“Their new options were indeed more expensive,” Ornstein learned, however, and the plans would involve benefits that “didn’t seem any better.”

Couple who volunteered for Obama lost health insurance under Obamacare

Remember, kids!

Update your Newspeak Dictionaries at once: "More Expensive" is the new definition of "Affordable".

Have a doubleplusgood day! (Because its Mandatory to do so, you will comply.)



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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Not sure if its been posted but im adding it here.

What your not being told about Obama Care.


All i can say is, that's what we all get for believing the man who broke 200 campaign promises.






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posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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Maybe they should do like car insurance if you don't use it, you should get a discount on the next renewal...



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 07:22 PM
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Watch for the next big tease.

There's been some "whispers" about something new called a "Medical Loan".

Word is it will work similar to "Student Loans".

The victims will be the ones who can't cough up the deductibles.

I bet the banks start it and the government somehow "guarantees" the total, and like a student loan, you will not be able to "Bankrupt" the thing.

Imagine somebody on the hook for a few thousand dollars late in the "Policy Year" and then getting in deeper when the policy year starts over. It's like the deductible never goes away.

Big damage coming.



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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xuenchen
Watch for the next big tease.

There's been some "whispers" about something new called a "Medical Loan".

Word is it will work similar to "Student Loans".

The victims will be the ones who can't cough up the deductibles.

I bet the banks start it and the government somehow "guarantees" the total, and like a student loan, you will not be able to "Bankrupt" the thing.

Imagine somebody on the hook for a few thousand dollars late in the "Policy Year" and then getting in deeper when the policy year starts over. It's like the deductible never goes away.

Big damage coming.



? Are you making this stuff up?


Your republican lawmakers are signing up have you?



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 08:16 PM
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Here's some humor to consider....

It's about "Julia" and maybe tells the real story for many people.

It's in cartoon format so it's easy to "get it".
Julia's happy insurance "experience"


related article


"Julia" was the character that the Obama campaign used in 2012.....
'The Life of Julia' - Slideshow has Obama President Forever !



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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jimmyx

TheWrightWing

jimmyx

ok...1st, the woman's story, if you read it, says that she hasn't been able to sign onto the website... it said she called "other insurance companies" and they gave her quotes....she has NOT CONTACTED the website or called the helpline...2nd, we don't know what her income is, and 3rd, we don't know what subsidy she might receive.....
this is all important information....and it is (shocker!!) left out of the Hannity report....rolls eyes


So you are saying she deserved to lose her insurance, and be forced to pay $900 a month with a $5k deductible, for the greater good?

She is an Obamacare Statistic.

Hey, as long as Sandra Fluk is provided with abortion pills on demand, it's worth it, right?



what's wrong with you?….how does your question make any sense out of what I said?....this is all hearsay, with none of the important info I mentioned above. and, it's obvious that the lady in question hasn't even contacted the website or the ACA helpline, so she doesn't have a clue about what coverage she would get with the ACA. geez, my wife and I had our insurance canceled too, but, we did the research and spent a little time, and now we are signed up.


I'm curious, are you certain that you are signed up? Have you made payment? Do you have something from the insurance company that says you are covered? I'm serious, what do you get as proof of coverage?



posted on Dec, 11 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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If that is true it doesn't surprise me at all, after all in a nation were all for profits surpass the well being of citizen and corporate corruption runs rampant you bet that the crooks will still find ways to make money out of the slaves.

The ACA have sold American citizens to private interest.



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:12 AM
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LDragonFire

xuenchen
Watch for the next big tease.

There's been some "whispers" about something new called a "Medical Loan".

Word is it will work similar to "Student Loans".

The victims will be the ones who can't cough up the deductibles.

I bet the banks start it and the government somehow "guarantees" the total, and like a student loan, you will not be able to "Bankrupt" the thing.

Imagine somebody on the hook for a few thousand dollars late in the "Policy Year" and then getting in deeper when the policy year starts over. It's like the deductible never goes away.

Big damage coming.



? Are you making this stuff up?


Your republican lawmakers are signing up have you?

NOPE, here you go, sense you can't do what you tell other's to, Google!
My medical Loan
Medical Loan Finance
Med Loan
With the Deductibles required with most obamacare policies, you'll need to take out a loan if you need any real surgery.

ETD: To answer your question LDragonFire, To prove to you, the programs are there and of-course expandable I'm sure to include loans for other surgerys. You made the statement that,


? Are you making this stuff up?

AND,


Your republican lawmakers are signing up have you?

Just proving you wrong again, the loan system is already there, I'm sure some very smart Capitalist have made a Profit and I Sure they see the Obamacare Writing On The Wall, people will need loans and they'll be there to fill that need.
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posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:21 AM
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What do they have to do with obamacare? Obamacare doesn't cover cosmetic surgery the links you provided do.



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:59 AM
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LDragonFire
As of today over 365k people have signed up and have purchased a plan.

Over 800k are now eligible for medicaid.

1.9 million have signed up but haven't chosen a plan yet.

These numbers are lower than expected, but as they continue to make improvements to the website this number will skyrocket.

Obamacare stats


How I wish You Were Wrong And Obama Would just Go Away like The DooDoo Bird

Did you happen to read what the cost to the American Tax paying Citizen will be now.
Here, sense your so Proud of Your Obamacare let me Enlighten you and your readers.

In her testimony before Congress today, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius provided an updated dollar amount for the cost of HealthCare.gov: $677 million. In addition to the $677 million spent on the federal Obamacare website, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has shoveled $4.5 billion of taxpayer money to promote Obamacare on the state level.
HHS also released updated “enrollment” figures for Obamacare. According to the agency 364,682 people have “selected a plan” – the equivalent of putting an item in your online shopping cart and leaving it there.
That means the taxpayer cost per “enrollee” is over $14,000.
($4.5 billion + $677 million = $5,177,000,000 ÷ 364,682 = $14,196)

Americans for tax reform
What's going to Happen now, you think tax's will increase?

The new earned income tax to help fund Obamacare is 0.9%. "Earned income is compensation from participation in a business, including wages, salary, tips, commissions and bonuses," Studnick explained. This tax will be placed on any income earned over $200K for those who are single and any income earned over $250K for those who are married and filing jointly.


Studnick says it’s important to understand these taxes and how they work.
“That way there’s no surprises when you go to file your tax return and now you have an extra 3.8 or 0.9% tax to pay,” Studnick says.

More hidden taxes funding for obamacare

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posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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LDragonFire
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What do they have to do with obamacare? Obamacare doesn't cover cosmetic surgery the links you provided do.

You're wrong as usual, those 126,000 people or more that will be covered by your Obamacare you're so proud of.
They'll be needing that form of insurance to use to finance those pesky Dental Treatments for themselves or more importantly their Children.
The eye care also. I have to assume much like the Senate Under The Orders of N. Pelosi from Obama to pass this Nite-Mare, you haven't read it either, you just go alone with the obama talking points from NPR or Huff.

How many of those enrolled have children that may need Braces?

Here’s something your orthodontist is not smiling about: a new tax rule raised the cost of braces this year.
Thanks to a change from the Affordable Care Act that places an annual $2,500 contribution cap on flexible spending accounts, which let workers set aside pre-tax dollars to cover medical expenses, some consumers may be spending more on braces, expensive eyewear and other medical supplies they would typically buy with the accounts. Before the new rule, there was no official cap on how much taxpayers could stash into the account, though many companies typically set their own limits of $5,000. For a person in the 25% tax bracket, the cap cuts the maximum tax break in half to $625 from $1,250.

Obamacare raised the cost
O, I'm not exactly done yet, you still may not be convinced, Those Medical Loan Institution are going to be like that corner, Title Loan or Payday Loan store. If you have teeth or perfect vision and want to keep them, you'll need a Loan to pay for the procedure.

So while more Americans will likely gain access to medical care when the law goes into effect next year, the number that can afford a visit to the dentist for a filling, root canal or checkup may actually decrease, industry officials say.


The health reform law requires consumers to buy a health plan that covers everything from seeing a psychologist to the full cost of breast pumps—but there are no such mandates for dental coverage, or requirements that insurers pay for the care of most Americans’ pearly whites.


The law’s rules about children’s dental coverage seem to be backfiring in other ways, oral health experts say. On some insurance exchanges, dental plans will be sold separately, so consumers who purchase a health plan can decline to add dental for their kids without facing a penalty.

Obamacare take a bite out of dental coverage
Yes, so how many of those soon to be 1.9 million insured through ACA will have eye and dental coverage?
How many of the 126,000 that you claim are covered as of 01/01/14 know if they have eye and dental coverage?
So, yes, expect a Quickie Med-Loan corner store to be next to you soon, with a Sign saying, 1 million ACA's Participants Served!



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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I'm curious, has anyone on ATS received a "good deal"? I on the other hand have two plans. One went up 400% in cost and the other one increased copays by 50%. So in both cases, as long as I stay healthy all is good, but if I get sick I will pay a hell of a lot more now than before Obamacare.

For those who have received a good deal can you explain why it is one? Is it the yearly cost, copay, availability etc? I’m hearing some real horror stories about the bronze plan where copays can be 1000s of dollars, might as well not be a plan at all if that is the case. I’m thinking that people are just saying now that they have insurance without really understanding what insurance they have. I guess they will figure it out when they actually need it.

It is funny that poor people will get the bronze plan and then are expected to write a check for a few 1000s when they need to use it…. Is that about as unrealistic as it can get? So if a person is poor and they use a lot of care and then are expected to pay 1000s but never do, is their insurance cut off? Or do they continue to get care and just endless bills. There will be zero poor people able to afford copayments so what happens when none pay?



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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LDragonFire
As of today over 365k people have signed up and have purchased a plan.

Over 800k are now eligible for medicaid.

1.9 million have signed up but haven't chosen a plan yet.

These numbers are lower than expected, but as they continue to make improvements to the website this number will skyrocket.

Obamacare stats


That's What Obama's HHS say's.

Most of Washington seems to have bought the White House claim that the 36 federal exchanges are finally working, and glory, glory, hallelujah. But if that's really true, then what explains the ongoing secrecy and evasion?

We know you and others have.

A charitable reading suggests that ObamaCare's net enrollment stands at about negative four million. That's the estimated four million to five and a half million people who had their individual health plans liquidated as ObamaCare-noncompliant—offset by the 364,682 who have signed up for a plan on a state or federal exchange and the 803,077 who have been found eligible to receive Medicaid.


The larger problem is that none of these represent true enrollments. HHS is reporting how many people "selected" a plan on the exchange, not how many people have actually enrolled in a plan with an insurance company by paying the first month's premium, which is how the private insurance industry defines enrollment. HHS has made up its own standard.

Insurers know that the hardest part of doing business in the individual market is getting customers to write a check.Insurers know that the hardest part of doing business in the individual market is getting customers to write a check.


People are accustomed these days to automatic payroll deductions and the unseen lost wages of employer-sponsored insurance. Many Americans may enroll on the exchange but then fail to pay once they see monthly costs that could range from the equivalent of a cellphone bill if they qualify for subsidies (President Obama's favorite comparison) to premiums that can exceed $1,000 or huge deductibles for the unlucky who must overpay to finance the insurance of others.

Juking Obamacare Stats
So, I ask you, how many of those people are going to Write That Check?



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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Xtrozero
I'm curious, has anyone on ATS received a "good deal"? I on the other hand have two plans. One went up 400% in cost and the other one increased copays by 50%. So in both cases, as long as I stay healthy all is good, but if I get sick I will pay a hell of a lot more now than before Obamacare.

For those who have received a good deal can you explain why it is one? Is it the yearly cost, copay, availability etc? I’m hearing some real horror stories about the bronze plan where copays can be 1000s of dollars, might as well not be a plan at all if that is the case. I’m thinking that people are just saying now that they have insurance without really understanding what insurance they have. I guess they will figure it out when they actually need it.

It is funny that poor people will get the bronze plan and then are expected to write a check for a few 1000s when they need to use it…. Is that about as unrealistic as it can get? So if a person is poor and they use a lot of care and then are expected to pay 1000s but never do, is their insurance cut off? Or do they continue to get care and just endless bills. There will be zero poor people able to afford copayments so what happens when none pay?


Well Said Xtrozero, Good points each and every one.
They are NOT going to come up with that kind of monies, they'll do exactly like they've done in the Past, go to the Emergency Room or some way some how the tax payers will absorbed the cost of their medical bills.

You're right, I have also been told by my wife's friends that are stuck with obamacare and they say their monthly premiums will doubled for the plans they are interested in and their income and the Deductibles are still OUTRAGES!



posted on Dec, 12 2013 @ 01:15 PM
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Let's not forget that if you are a smoker (19.3% of the US population or just under 1 in 5 people), you may pay as much as 50% more for your insurance than non-smokers. ObamaCare slams smokers with sky-high premium costs, could backfire



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