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Where did all the 0bama and 0bamacare backers go???
jimmyx, what gives?? If it is so great, why can't you defend it?
LDragonFire, your all on your own I guess.
From October 1 through November 30, more than 3.6 million Americans applied for health coverage under the ACA while just over 2.3 million Americans have been processed and are eligible to buy an insurance policy through either the federal marketplace at Healthcare.gov or through a state-based marketplace. 362,683 Americans have already selected a plan with the remaining 1.9 million undecided.
An additional 803,000 Americans have enrolled in either the newly expanded Medicaid program (where available) or the Children’s Health Insurance Program.
So what were some of the top front-page headlines on right-wing blogs yesterday? “We were wrong about Obamacare enrollment?” Not a chance in hell.
It appears the only cable news website to lead with something related to the new ACA enrollment numbers was Fox News Channel, but it did so in the context of brewing up another conspiracy theory not unlike the conspiracy theory about the September 2012 employment numbers, the Obamacare numbers are fake, fake, fake. The Obama HHS is faking it. Again.
But that was just the headline. If you actually click the link and read the story, it has nothing to do with the enrollment numbers. Based on the headline, it sounds like the administration lied to Congress about the new enrollment numbers. But that’s not what the story is about. At all.
HHS is boasting of enrollment for November that was four times as high as October, yet 62% of the total was in the state exchanges, some of which are marginally less prone to crashing than the federal version. Then again, 41 states posted sign-ups only in the three or four figures, including eight states that run their own exchanges. Oregon managed to scrape up 44 people. Among the 137,204 federal sign-ups, no state is reaching the critical mass necessary for stable insurance prices.
The larger problem is that none of these represent true enrollments. HHS is reporting how many people "selected" a plan on the exchange, not how many people have actually enrolled in a plan with an insurance company by paying the first month's premium, which is how the private insurance industry defines enrollment. HHS has made up its own standard
Recent enrollment estimates for the Affordable Health Care exchange reveal young people have not been signing up for health insurance, raising concern over the marketplace’s financial viability.
The first set of data revealed this week showed that only 106,000 people have signed up for health insurance through the Affordable Care Act, most of whom are elderly and have medical problems, the Associated Press reports.
The exchange’s viability hinges on young people signing up to offset costs of insuring older patients with medical issues. The White House has estimated that it needs two younger people to sign up for Obamacare for every three older participants.
If the problem persists, insurance companies will be forced to increase insurance premiums and deductibles, or even leave the marketplace to avoid too much financial loss.
reply to post by guohua
What do they have to do with obamacare? Obamacare doesn't cover cosmetic surgery the links you provided do.
Obama officials confirmed there was no method of payment built into the Obamacare website. Without a payment mechanism, there is no way to officially enroll in a real sense by going through the website.
So what is the administration going to do? They are going to let the insurance companies ESTIMATE what they THINK they should be getting based on “sign ups” and the government is going to pay it out to them. Once system is built the government can then settle with the insurers. So the government is just going to give the companies our money on an honor system until they can figure it out. What a mess.
I'm curious, has anyone on ATS received a "good deal"? I on the other hand have two plans. One went up 400% in cost and the other one increased copays by 50%. So in both cases, as long as I stay healthy all is good, but if I get sick I will pay a hell of a lot more now than before Obamacare.
For those who have received a good deal can you explain why it is one? Is it the yearly cost, copay, availability etc? I’m hearing some real horror stories about the bronze plan where copays can be 1000s of dollars, might as well not be a plan at all if that is the case. I’m thinking that people are just saying now that they have insurance without really understanding what insurance they have. I guess they will figure it out when they actually need it.
It is funny that poor people will get the bronze plan and then are expected to write a check for a few 1000s when they need to use it…. Is that about as unrealistic as it can get? So if a person is poor and they use a lot of care and then are expected to pay 1000s but never do, is their insurance cut off? Or do they continue to get care and just endless bills. There will be zero poor people able to afford copayments so what happens when none pay?
reply to post by irishchic
Yes you will, if you qualify.