Christian Group Uses Giant Balloons To Drop Bibles On North Korea.

Grimpachi
reply to post by Snsoc

 

You know somehow they have managed to survive without bible drops for all this time what makes you think they needed them to qualify their existence?

So mere "survival" is good enough for them?

The entire point of the drops is to offer them something more than "survival." A belief in a god often gives people the strength to continue their wretched lives.

But if you think they're doing just fine, then I guess we shouldn't care about them at all.

reply to post by SasquatchHunter


Damn. That is the most asinine statement I have ever read.

Somehow you think because people don’t believe in your fairytales their life isn’t worth living.

Snsoc

Grimpachi
reply to post by Snsoc

 

You know somehow they have managed to survive without bible drops for all this time what makes you think they needed them to qualify their existence?

So mere "survival" is good enough for them?

The entire point of the drops is to offer them something more than "survival." A belief in a god often gives people the strength to continue their wretched lives.

But if you think they're doing just fine, then I guess we shouldn't care about them at all.

So you send something over that can get them and their entire family thrown into prison camps or killed? WTF you people love your martyrdom don't you so much you will force it on others who would prefer food than fabrications.

Their life might not be great but at least they are alive the idiots sending the bibles would deprive them of that.


Reminds me of this.

Grimpachi
reply to post by SasquatchHunter

 

Damn. That is the most asinine statement I have ever read.

Somehow you think because people don’t believe in your fairytales their life isn’t worth living.

If you are American, I would die fighting anyone whether in a military or civilian capacity before I ever sat around while your freedom to be an atheist was stripped away. Or my freedom to be a christian was stripped away.

I believe everyone should have the freedom to believe whatever they want to believe. There is no freedom in N. Korea human rights do not exist.

You say they were doing fine without bibles. They are not doing fine they are starving death. They are in labor camps. Every aspect of their life is subject to their governments control. This is the life that I would find hard for anyone in the world to believe was worth living.

I wonder how many families were exeuted or put to labor internment camps
when school kids brings one of those bibles to class for show and tell.

The Gods Must Be Crazy III: North Korean Style.

"I am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me."
- thinks Kim Jong Un


Unfortunately, their dear leader has decided that he, himself, is their god.
Thus he is smiting any that may have any opportunity to think different.

Considering this is well known by people outside of NK (his delusions of godliness), the bibles were a really badly thought out idea

reply to post by SasquatchHunter


Thanks for volunteering to fight for my freedom however I do not need it. Perhaps you should go to NK and volunteer on their behalf. I have seen NK even set foot in NK a few times when I was stationed on the DMZ. I was friends with one of the guys who crossed the freedom bridge during the last war to escape NK. I learned a lot about the country.

Sending bibles of death is not fighting its cowardice. The people sending them are taking zero risk and zero responsibility while putting innocents in danger. It is stupid self-righteous idiotic behavior. They have their own beliefs they are aware of Christianity and those who chose to be Christians do so of their own accord. They are brave the maroons sending balloons with bibles are not.

Thinking their quality of life will improve with propaganda bibles is simply egotistical nonsense. If anything it will make it worse for fear of death or imprisonment. Then they will be hateful of all Christians and their so called god for allowing them to be put in that position.

reply to post by Grimpachi




Did you or any of the people who disregard all logic, common sense, and facts when the opportunity to bash Christians or religion of any kind even read the articles?

Most of the Wonsan victims were charged with watching or illegally trafficking South Korean videos, involvement in prostitution, or possessing a Bible. 

His group targets rural areas where they might be picked up discreetly, he said. 

Foley and members of his Christian mission group, Seoul USA, use GPS technology to help direct where the Bibles land.

There is no clear reason for the executions. One government official noted they occurred in cities that are centers of economic development.

The victims seem to be guilty of crimes related to South Korea - like watching South Korean films - or accused of corruption of public morals, especially sexual misconduct.

On Sept. 21, Japan’s Asahi Shimbun reported that nine Unhasu Orchestra members were executed for filming themselves having sex and selling the films as pornography.

North Korean authorities launched a probe into the scandal, a South Korean government official familiar with North Korean affairs said, and they found that Ri was also involved in the case.

They executed all of the people involved in the scandal in order to quell any suspicions about her.

When the Unhasu members were questioned by officials, they reportedly said, “Ri Sol-ju also loved to play like us.”

The source said, “As the news that people were brutally killed in public executions spread in the countryside, the people have been spreading rumors that say that Kim Jong-un has started a terror campaign in response to the Ri Sol-ju’s pornography scandal.”

NO I DO NOT THINK ANY OF YOU DID!!!!!
You say you dont need me to fight for your freedoms! BILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THE FREEDOMS YOU ENJOY TODAY! FREEDOMS THAT DONT EXIST IN N. KOREA.

You people are pathetic for saying it is Christians fault that Christians were murdered!

reply to post by SasquatchHunter

Did you or any of the people who disregard all logic, common sense, and facts when the opportunity to bash Christians or religion of any kind even read the articles?

Haven't you answered your own question with this quote you posted?

Most of the Wonsan victims were charged with watching or illegally trafficking South Korean videos, involvement in prostitution, or possessing a Bible.

I assume this quote is referring to executions of Nov. 3, 2013...

Where is the logic and common sense of these Christians?

reply to post by SasquatchHunter


Anyone discovered engaging in clandestine religious practice faces official discrimination, arrest, imprisonment, and possibly execution in North Korea. Foolish self-righteous Christians sending balloons with bibles into the country are putting those people at risk. It is the epitome of stupidity. They may as well be sending porn in those balloons it seems the punishment is the same. Bet the locals would appreciate the porn more though.

I am not bashing Christians I am bashing idiots that happen to be Christians.



reply to post by windword


Yup he did but for some reason wants to ignore this part.

Most of the Wonsan victims were charged with watching or illegally trafficking South Korean videos, involvement in prostitution, or possessing a Bible.

does anyone think they would have been shot for reading, Marx?
or
Alice in Wonderland?

or the NBA , scheduale?

nope just the Bible,,what is it that scares them so much?

reply to post by BobAthome

nope just the Bible,,what is it that scares them so much?

Nope, not just the Bible. The Bible among many 1000's of book, movies and TV shows are banned in N Korea. Many of those executed were charged with watching porn, soap operas and shows like the "Desperate Housewives"! N Korea wants to keep the West out.

Watching unsanctioned foreign films or TV -- especially those from the capitalist South -- is a serious offence in North Korea.

However, efforts to control their distribution have been circumvented by technology, with an increasing number being smuggled in on DVDs, flash drives and mp3 players.

As well as South Korean soap operas, US shows like Desperate Housewives are believed to have a small but avid following.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Grimpachi
reply to post by SasquatchHunter

 

Anyone discovered engaging in clandestine religious practice faces official discrimination, arrest, imprisonment, and possibly execution in North Korea. Foolish self-righteous Christians sending balloons with bibles into the country are putting those people at risk. It is the epitome of stupidity. They may as well be sending porn in those balloons it seems the punishment is the same. Bet the locals would appreciate the porn more though.

I am not bashing Christians I am bashing idiots that happen to be Christians.



reply to post by windword

 

Yup he did but for some reason wants to ignore this part.

Most of the Wonsan victims were charged with watching or illegally trafficking South Korean videos, involvement in prostitution, or possessing a Bible.

edit on 11-11-2013 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

Yes it says OR A BIBLE THATS.
That's why I posted more of the article.

The source said, “As the news that people were brutally killed in public executions spread in the countryside, the people have been spreading rumors that say that Kim Jong-un has started a terror campaign in response to the Ri Sol-ju’s pornography scandal.”

You conviently ignore the part that elaborates on the reasons for executions. To support your bashing of Christians. When they were dropping Bibles in rural areas using GPS, and the executions were carried out in urban areas.

It doesn't matter because you are not a reasonable person when it comes to discussing the facts.

reply to post by BobAthome


"what is it that scares them so much? "

that it says ,,ALL MEN are = under GOD.
if jim sun is a GOD, then how come no one is equal?
therefore,,

reply to post by BobAthome


I can't see how the "Beloved Leader" would be threatened by ALL MEN = Under God. All men, and women, are under God, some are just a little lower under God than others.

Besides, the Bible says this:

Romans 13: 1-7

Rom 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God.
Rom 13:2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment
Rom 13:3 (for rulers cause no fear for good conduct but for bad). Do you desire not to fear authority? Do good and you will receive its commendation,

I think keeping Christianity at bay in S Korea is more about keeping the Pope out than the Bible. Teaching the Bible makes good slaves. But, The Vatican is fighting for and wants those slaves!

BobAthome
reply to post by BobAthome

 

"what is it that scares them so much? "

that it says ,,ALL MEN are = under GOD.
if jim sun is a GOD, then how come no one is equal?
therefore,,

It doesn't matter this is just like that ridiculous Bill Nye thread that went on page after page that was almost complete fabrication. If it was about any other subject other than Christians it would have been in the Hoax bin before it made it past the first page if anyone bothered to even read the article. Yet none of them ever gave any thought about being lied to and blindly following that lie.

It doesn't matter these people will blindly follow any propaganda thatgives them a false sense of superiority.

reply to post by SasquatchHunter


You should do a little research before speaking about such things. Notice the date.

07/24/09
Those who violate religious restrictions are often accused of crimes such as spying or anti-government activities.

A Christian woman accused of distributing the Bible, a book banned in communist North Korea, was publicly executed last month for the crime, South Korean activists said Friday

The 33-year-old mother of three, Ri Hyon Ok, also was accused of spying for South Korea and the United States, and of organizing dissidents, a rights group said in Seoul, citing documents obtained from the North.

link

Food,literature and the like all give the person caught 3 generations of his family in forced labor/concentration camps

Better idea is float guns into north Korea, give the people option to rise up and kill their oppressors

They can leave the gun attached to balloon or take chance and kill as many as possible

reply to post by Grimpachi


From the article I quoted.

Some analysts wondered if the executions were related to earlier executions of members of the Unhasu Orchestra, a state-run orchestra that First Lady Ri Sol-ju used to sing in.

On Sept. 21, Japan’s Asahi Shimbun reported that nine Unhasu Orchestra members were executed for filming themselves having sex and selling the films as pornography.

What research is it I need to do I perfectly understand what is being said now. Do you?. Seriously all you have to do is click the link and read the article yourself.
S. Korea Article
In case this is just too much trouble. Once again.

The source said, “As the news that people were brutally killed in public executions spread in the countryside, the people have been spreading rumors that say that Kim Jong-un has started a terror campaign in response to the Ri Sol-ju’s pornography scandal.”

reply to post by SasquatchHunter


Since you failed to comprehend my last post I will dumb it down for you.

Those who violate religious restrictions are often accused of crimes such as spying or anti-government activities

Also from you posted before it was abundantly clear bibles are on the list of things that can get you imprisoned or killed. They may as well have filled those balloons with anthrax.