6 months to live...and not a clue what to say

I'm just going to put these links here.


www.chrisbeatcancer.com...

gerson.org...

I don't have any answers, just lots of hope and hugs all around.

reply to post by kosmicjack


I have forwarded them to Lisa and I thank you. THe support on here is amazing. I felt so helpless but now I feel like I am really REALLY doing all that I can. Thanks to you all.

reply to post by Night Star


Night Star.......in your post you called me "young lady" hehe.....wanted to thank you for that...you made my morning! Too sweet of you.....I'll be 53 in November

reply to post by k21968


If your friend is interesting in treatment and fighting this, look into Turkey Tail Mushroom extract at Paul Stamets website:

www.fungi.com...

She will have to take a much higher dosage, but Stamets had good luck with his mother's late stage breast cancer and this extract. He can't give you medical advice, he's a mycologist, not a physician. But you can contact him and see if he can tell you what his mother took.

Give it a try. Stamets mother had late stage 4 breast cancer.

reply to post by Pladuim


Another option is the one seen in the movie "Run From the Cure" as seen on youtube.

Yet another is the cure mentioned in "Burzynski the movie", the FDA tried to shut him
down TWICE even though he is curing ppl that were sent home to die.

The jury from the 1st trial showed up at the 2nd trial to bear witness in his favor...

These two cures look VERY solid, and have many survivors who will speak on their veracity.

Tell her to do the budwig diet ! And drink kombucha tea every day .
Try ! Its saving a friend of mine who was given a mknth to live , the beginning of last year

reply to post by k21968


To love is not selfish - you just want more time with someone you love. I am so incredibly sorry you and she and her family are going through this!

If she has moved into acceptance of this, and is feeling ready for the pain and suffering to end, then it is okay for you to try to accept it too. As you say "get busy." Connect with her about her wishes and, as you are a faithful friend, help her prepare for her transition, and know that your help might give her some peace, so that her leaving is gentle and her mind as much at ease as it can be. You don't need to be a superhero, just listen, be there, help where you can, listen to what she wants and needs from you. And if she wants to attempt an alternative healing route as mentioned by many worthy members here, you can also support her in that.

You might need to find someone to talk to for yourself at some point - a grief counselor or someone like that. I am only suggesting this because your friend's life has had such deep meaning to you - it is a major and significant loss to think of her leaving you. Your hurt and grief come from that deep love and meaning, and you may want someone to help you process that. It is normal to feel all these things. It is normal to need someone to talk to. It is also normal to be angry that your friend is leaving you and to know that does not make you selfish, it makes you human.

Finally, while you may accept her situation, you can also hold the space for 'whatever will be will be' - in other words, go beside her wherever the journey leads... That way, should things turn around or get better, you are there, should things go the other way, you are also beside her.

I will keep you and your friend in my thoughts and heart.
Again, I am so sorry for your pain, and the pain of your friend.

peace to you,
AB

reply to post by k21968


I am so sorry to hear this about your friend.

I like the idea of letters and I also like the idea of scrapbooks. Leaving little pieces of ones self in a book for others to look at later on I think is a wonderful idea.

But mostly I think I like the fact that she has a friend such as yourself to help her through these very difficult days ahead. Even if it's just hanging out and doing absolutely nothing but watching TV in silence...that matters.

I'd also like to recommend two books that the two of you might like to read.

The first Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul by Jane Roberts completely changed my perception of life forever.

The second The Afterlife of Billy Fingers by Annie Kagan has proven to be one of the most inspirational books I've ever read.

These two books have truly changed my perception of our true purpose of life and the afterlife, I recommend them to everyone.

Your going to be amazed to discover just how strong a person you truly are in the days to come, love is where we derive our strength from. You will be strong for your friend, even when you feel as though you can't you will because that is love.

reply to post by StealthyKat


no, i did not say everyone, only "too many" along that track. apologies if i come on too strong tho and i wish you well in your endevours. i have a bit of contempt for death i suppose due to believing in existence before birth. in fact i cant imagine myself not existing. i dont have a terminal illness, just a little skin cancer, but did get admitted to hospital once in what i thought was a one way trip. i thought the expected demise would be an interesting experience/event.
i can well imagine that pain would be a difficult challenge. i wish you all good health forever.

here's a thread on ats about a 78 y.o. man who beat cancer. note the diet change. how many doctors talk about diet? mine did not mention that cancer feeds on sugar, (gross negligence) he just referred me to a skin specialist for a graft. this made no sense to me as i want to know WHY it appears there in the first place. one theory is a disturbance in the venous return (blood) so that too much blood accumilates in the area and trys to build something. i DO know that in the early stages 25 years ago it was more a rash that would disappear after neck adjustments. these days a really good sleep makes a difference due to the rehydrating of the vertebral discs; hence less pressure on the nerves. but there may be several reasons why its there. anyway, here's the link, hope it works. nope could not find it despite the date known; could it have been deleted?

here's a copy, sorry, it wont even copy from my document. eureka! finally, the original article in the mail online.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

i read recently on dr. mercola's site that broccoli contained a very important ingredient for resisting cancer and shooting the seeds was even much more potent. so perhaps a search there may help.

reply to post by k21968


Get her lots of weed, and DCA
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by orangutang


Hi Oranutang...thanks for responding. You didn't come off as harsh at all. I know exactly what you mean when you said "I can't imagine myself not exisiting". ....That is the weirdest feeling isn't it? When something like this happens to you, it does strange things to the way you think. For instance, when I was first diagnosed, I surprised myself because I took it so well. When they told me the first words out of my mouth were "OK.....the first thing is....I don't want anyone here telling me "how long I have".......and the second thing is....how do we start killing it". When those words came out of me, it took me aback. I thought if anything like this ever happened to me I would be hysterical LOL!

But LATER...little things would pop into my mind. For instance, I could be going down the road and see a highway billboard, and think, one day, I won't be here, and people will still be passing this same billboard just like I am now....AND I WON'T BE HERE ANYMORE. Now that seems like an odd thought to most people, but it's the little thoughts like that which eat you up. Then I had to stop myself and try to stop those thoughts....because you have to have hope, and if you allow those thoughts, they will take over. I guess what I was trying to say is that there is a time to fight, and a time to accept,

If someone finds out that they have a certain amount of time left....and it is UNDENIABLE (as in it has spead so bad there is no chance)
Would it be best to spend that remaining time chasing "cures" ....or spend that remaining time doing the things you love WITH the people you love?
The information some have provided is great...and I would advise anyone with cancer to check it out. But for the advanced cancer patient with multiple recurrances and a poor prognosis....I think most would choose the latter. But that's just my opinion.
Hugggggs Kat

k21968
reply to post by kosmicjack

 

I have forwarded them to Lisa and I thank you. THe support on here is amazing. I felt so helpless but now I feel like I am really REALLY doing all that I can. Thanks to you all.

reply to post by k21968


Check your inbox. Just send you a private email. There might be still a way to heal her. But that depends on the willing of your friend if she really want to live or if she already gave up.

Hey and thanks for posting. It brought a tear to this tough exterior of a man :-). I have lost my Grandfather and a dear friend to terminal cancer. It's heartbreaking and as you say you wish you could give half of what's left of your life just to give them a little bit longer than what they've been told. You wish anything other than the what has been told to you.

Although i understand the good intentions of the people posting here about holistic cures i'm afraid in their desperation to help you and your suffering, they fail to see logic. I'm a biomedicine graduate and can tell you that those holistic approaches may have helped your friend some time ago but at this stage she has reached there is no turning back. Unfortunately for most there really is no conspiracy as there just is no cure. Cancer is IMMENSELY complex and unforgiving but with every death there is new breakthroughs and understanding. We will beat it, it's only a matter of time. I say let your friend live her last months unrestricted from such burdens.

My advice should you seek any would be to accept what has been said and live her last days with her like you were 14 years old kids. Forget your worries and try to see the beauty in everything. Live like someone left the gate open :-).

One last thought to i give to you is my beliefs about the afterlife. Like many others on here i see this stage of life as a tiny almost insignificant stage in a much grander plan. We are pure souls with being carried around in an imperfect body. We are here to live, learn, love and sacrifice for others. You have done and are doing that. Your friend is going to leave this plain and travel home. If you've ever tried and experienced a real out of body experience you'd know what i mean. There is much more than meets the eye.

Love to you and your friend may you have the time of your lives.

reply to post by MongusePro


Thank you! You just said what I was trying to, but much better. At this point, time is much better spent living, than chasing a "cure" that in reality, won't happen at this late stage. I would rather spend my time left living and being with family and friends as much as possible.

There is a way to heal EVERY cancer! But most people are so captured by our health care system that even if they get the chance they don't take it. Because they do not believe in it.

7 years ago I wanted to make a documentary about a shaman in Mongolia, instead a landed at a shaman in the Peruvian jungle. For what I was able to witness in this 6 weeks I couldn't believe it at the beginning. But as I saw how people got healthy I was curious to know who is doing it.

And it is rather "simple". This shaman is using plants which are under normal circumstances highly toxic. To be able to take those plant medicine the patients have to make a very strict diet, only 4 plantanos per day and one sort of fish cooked, without any salt and only water to drink.

This shaman cured people where western doctors gave not more than three more months to live. He is well known meanwhile for his knowledge in plants and famous universities invite him so that he can share his knowledge.

So k21968 I have sent you a private message in ATS about how to contact him.

Of course this is a subject of trust and many people do not believe in this. In addition about 99% of the so called shamans are charlatans.

reply to post by k21968

So sorry to hear of your friend's struggle, and now yours as well.

Here is what you say, "Cancer sucks. I love you. Let's go to the beach." Live each day that you have left with her the best that you can.

reply to post by lincolnparadox


Thank you LIncoln (i hope you dont mind if I call you that!)

I appreciate any and all advice/help.

I want her to longer than I for I do not want to be in this world without her. She is like my sister. I love her with all of my being.

reply to post by Ex_MislTech


I came across that video in my research but did not watch it. I will now! Thank you!!!! I appreciate your kind words and assistance.