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My assumption is that there is enough evidence that such experiments went on but I don't know enough about it to comment.
ZetaRediculian
reply to post by Ectoplasm8
Yes, I've gone through the mind warp with this one. See "logical trickery". What I find is its the absence of information or the all cap 'SECRET' that sends people into the abyss of illusury possibility. This is what sets apart the good poker players from the bad. It's the guess what's behind the curtain game. The magic trick. Psych 101. It's the word "possibility" that is really misunderstood around here. Mathematically, something is possible or it's not. On or off. Is it possible that Spider-Man is real and we don't see him because he's too fast? It's silly, right? But it's the same argument.
yes, you can make assumptions going into a topic. I don't really know a whole lot about it as I said so I really don't have much to offer. In the other thread, there was a discussion about Remote viewing experiments by the government with tax payers money mentioned kind of matter of factly. So yes, there is my credibility on a topic I know virtually nothing about. You got me there.
ImpactoR
My assumption is that there is enough evidence that such experiments went on but I don't know enough about it to comment.
Really? There is enough evidence? I see the same evidence as the one for ufoS, I.E just speculation and assumptions and ofc - faked documents. There is nothing that shows such ever happened, all is the same conspiracy BS and yet you assume?? There is your credibility.
And it all can be narrowed down to one's belief system, which yours seems to be in such thing, rather than religion and aliens.
Not even gonna comment on the rest of your 'almost sentences' - it only shows you have nothing useful to respond and the questions like - where is the evidence of the 'Alien was used as a coverup' propaganda only make you 'Hmm errr. ... I ... don't ugh... know...
I'll gladly hand this off to you, ZetaRediculian...
ZetaRediculian
reply to post by Ectoplasm8
I'll gladly hand this off to you, ZetaRediculian...
Gee thanks. But I have a feeling I will wear him down.
ImpactoR
reply to post by Ectoplasm8
reply to post by ZetaRediculian
All that you are saying how not a single time someone smuggled some actual video clip of a landing ship for 60 years makes sense and I am asking the same. And yet, I gave examples how things that you probably didn't know to exist like Area 51 - it was decades until it started existing for the public, so if there is one such case, what makes it impossible to have other cases not being shown for decades but in the end to actually exist?
That is what I find wrong with this logic. Other than that, if it goes like that I am sure in another 60 years there will be nothing new around the topic, and it is a crappy topic I fully agree.
But if for you when it has happened once or even more times, I am just listing one example - things kept in secret and considered non-existent to later start existing, if for you this is so absurd, then you are BAD, your methods are not scientific and you are doing nothing but scoffing.
I have never claimed any of this evidence as sufficient and you are attacking me for considering a possiblitiy based on the so good example of Area51, like there can never be other cases like this one? Wow, you are neither scientists, nor nothing, and your approach is awful, perhaps I shouldn't give you any more attention.
We all agree that the topic is full of nonsense and lies but when you can't even accept something could be possible based on cases of cover-up that have already happened, why am I wasting my time with such?edit on 28-9-2013 by ImpactoR because: (no reason given)
In a universe where there are infinite stars and planets, apply Drakes formula and some logic please.
Now, if you have even a handful, in the infinite universe, (Horton Hears a Who! Infinity within and without all things), so no matter what this universe really is, even if its an atom, smaller than a grain of sand, it is still infinite.
anomalie
You can forget about debating with certain people here on the notion some UFO's may be piloted by aliens its like banging your head against a wall they will not entertain the idea or consider it a possibilty.
These are the same people who ignore the vast amount of data already out there credible reports (such as multiple witnesses, police, pilot, and military reports) and trace evidence all of which is worthless in their minds.
They accuse believers making leaps of logic, unaware that theyre doing it themselves and will at times resort to thinly veiled insults.
Funny really..it wouldnt bother me so much but these people have the nerve to call themselves skeptics when what theyre really are pseudo skeptics, debunkers and at worse trolls.
I would say save your breath these people have already made their minds up.
Unity_99
In a universe where there are infinite stars and planets, apply Drakes formula and some logic please. If you reduced drake's formula to a fraction 1/100th of its projection, you would still have civilzations out there, that achieved unity without war, or survived wars and destruction, and made it to the Higher Level of energy usage, and science. Those civilzations would be, thousands, millions and billions of years ahead of us in technology. I'm not even sure they would be strictly corporal any longer, nor transhuman AI, but interdimensional and ethereal, at least for some. Billions of years, for those outside the screen, kazillions.
applesthateatpeople
reply to post by Maverick7
Heh... you think you understand the universe.
Credentials?
the Universe is a big empty container and any sentient beings who are actively engaging in space travel even inside their galaxies RIGHT NOW is effectively close to zero.
"These people" seem to come on here, only when certain topics are brought up, then they slam anyone who thinks that aliens exist.
Seems to me that IF any government folks were lurking about, that would be how they might act.
Just sayin'.
ZetaRediculian
applesthateatpeople
reply to post by Maverick7
Heh... you think you understand the universe.
Credentials?
How about discussion? Asking for credentials is just saying the topic is over your head. Why else would you need to see credentials? Here is what you do. Pick the points you want to argue and counter it with what YOU think. Not that hard.
Unity_99
Yet they not only exist, in this corporal universe, but also access this from on High in corporal form.
By the way, the royal zeta reticuli, ie. Betty and Barney hill, and from the information I was given on Roswell, this is the race that crashed, or was shot down. Their star is akin to ours, but billions of years older than ours. Interesting thoughts that leads to, eh?
gortex
reply to post by Maverick7
the Universe is a big empty container and any sentient beings who are actively engaging in space travel even inside their galaxies RIGHT NOW is effectively close to zero.
That's if you base your opinion on such low starting numbers , given there's an estimated 300 billion stars in the Milky Way alone I find it surprising that you can assume that only one civilisation would appear in this and other Galaxies given the shear number of opportunities that would be available .