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Herbology indicates Alien contact

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posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 01:38 AM
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The use of herbs for medicinal purposes can historically be dated as far back as 3500 BC in Egypt and 2500 BC in China. Modern day science has shown that many of these herbs do indeed have medicinal properties and contain chemical compounds that have curative properties. Since people back then did not have any way to scientifically evaluate these herbs we must ask ourselves how these ancient cultures came up with the right herbs to use and often used them for purposes that modern science shows are valid for the uses to which they were put to use. Some might say it was just the 'random chance' use of the various plants and coincidentally they found they worked!!! I ask you with all the many thousands of different plants/herbs that nature produces what are the odds that the right herb could be found for the right condition by random chance trial and error??? Very, very small, in fact it might be easier to take the old expression, 'give enough monkeys enough typewrites and eventually they will type out the Encyclopedia Britannica' - that will never happen; And primitive cultures could not have obtained an often valid medicinal base for herbs by random chance.

Therefor I propose that say 'Ancient Astronauts' [aliens] somehow communicated a data base of medicinal base herbology to ancient cultures which often is still valid and used in modern day herbalism. Alien contact can be considered as fact and herbalism is another indication of it.



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posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 01:42 AM
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so you dont believe the experience of generations of humans tasting and evolving and passing on knowledge existed ...

therefore aliens did it?

can you see the disconnect there? you seem to be missing a few steps...



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 01:57 AM
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Not in a million years of random chance selection could a valid herbal base evolve - too many variables and modern
day scientific methods did not yet exist. The knowledge had to come from an outside [alien] source. It may be,
as in the case with some cultures, be attributed to 'Shamans" - but where did the Shamans get it from? Magic?
Or Aliens? They used to think the Shamans were performing magic - Believe in magic if you want - I'd sooner believe
in contact with an advanced alien species [ancient astronauts] in the past history of humanity



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 02:12 AM
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Herbology is no more an indication of Alien contact than are the Pyramids or any other of the ancient wonders .
Our ancestors were intelligent people and the quest for knowledge is ancient , they knew through trial and error what did what and what was good for what , it was a process of evolution that led to where we are today .


The use of plants as medicines predates written human history. A 60,000-year-old Neanderthal burial site, "SHANIDAR-4", in northern Iraq has yielded large amounts of pollen from 8 plant species, 7 of which are used now as herbal remedies.
In the written record, the study of herbs dates back over 5,000 years to the Sumerians, who described well-established medicinal uses for such plants as laurel, caraway, and thyme.
Ancient Egyptian medicine of 1000 B.C. are known to have used garlic, opium, castor oil, coriander, mint, indigo, and other herbs for medicine and the Old Testament also mentions herb use and cultivation, including mandrake, vetch, caraway, wheat, barley, and rye.
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posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 02:13 AM
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You are aware that animals use medicinal herbs, plants and even certain types of dirt too right?
Did they learn from humans or alien astronauts I wonder.



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 02:26 AM
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posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 02:32 AM
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I disagree. People had extensive amounts of time on their hands to experiment with plants & develop a medicinal knowledge & other applications for the plants they encountered. Pick a small plant that's come across while walking to a new seasonal hunting place. It's unknown to the clan, so someone (perhaps a woman w/a pouch of plant stuffs strapped to her hide) takes a small bit into her mouth & observes the effect. Does it burn, or numb, is it sweet, does it make her tired, is it cooling to skin, does it clear congestion, prevent flies from hovering, or cause loose stools? Does it dull hunger or pain? It's pretty logical, that they figured out the things in their surroundings in a "how can this be used" type of exploration.



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 03:02 AM
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Yes, that might be the standard, logical and often accepted scenario. And can I prove it did not happen that way?
No, but this does not mean that it happened that way. There are those who like to accept the so-called science
of evolution and the random chance development and unfolding of species and their development as if it were a
scientific religion - It may not be so. As modern scientists often agree with not only the possibility of other intelligent
life in he universe [that is assuming you believe the species man to be intelligent] but even of it being probable. I do not understand why some can not accept this possibility and of the the possibility that other intelligent life beings [aliens] have always been with humans as they have evolved?



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 03:46 AM
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I do not understand why some can not accept this possibility and of the the possibility that other intelligent life beings [aliens] have always been with humans as they have evolved?

Because there is absolutely no evidence for it , if Aliens had been holding our hand through our history we would have solid evidence that they exist yet we don't , surely now we're all grown up they would be out in the open taking credit for the great job they did but they aren't .

Alien Herbology ?



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posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 03:47 AM
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I do believe in the ancient astronaut/alien theory to some extent but I'm not too sure about this one myself.
Sure it could of happened but I don't think ET's came down to Earth in those times just to point out & give these herbs to humans stating what the particular herb would do. I think we humans figured it out for ourselves using 'Trial & Error'



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 04:35 AM
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We are evidently a species with extremely low self esteem, the OP is proof of this. Maybe that's the cause of all the world's ills? You know how people will low self esteem often suffer social and other various issues? Maybe people like the OP are collectively dragging down human potential with their unwillingness to accept that humans and all other life are incredible. Right here on Earth. No need to look to the stars for amazing life forms, the Earth is covered in them.

I suppose Aliens made Beer to? How the heck would primitive man have known how to make Beer? They didn't. They figured it out, something that people these days don't try enough of. Everyone thinks to know something you must be TOLD. This is a fallacy manufactured to limit creativity and intellect. And this is the fallacy the OP is basing their opinion on. Evidently they have never independently created something or figured it out for themselves, so they think it unimaginable that other humans could posses such a gift.

While I fully accept the possibility of ET intervention in human history or even to the present day, I see zero proof and little evidence, and to be honest I think the Alien connection to herbology is the LEAST likely of all EF influences.

As someone else mentioned other animals use medicinal herbs. Monkeys also get drunk. Deer might have a list of thousands of medicinal herbs if they had some way to pass complex knowledge such as this down the generations, as there wouldn't be enough time in a deer's day to teach every one of their children every one of the plants. Then the brain itself comes into play and we don't believe the majority of other animals are anywhere close to the capabilities of the human mind.

Don't sell your species short. You will likely point to the sad state of the world today as proof of humanity's lack of ability to do anything good without outside intervention. I'd point to your attitude as the reason people can't grow beyond those things.



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 05:06 AM
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Very well said


I said this in another one of his posts, us humans aren't all that stupid. ET's didn't help us with everything there is known to man. With evolution our knowledge also increases. There are a lot of people out there trying to figure out cures for all sorts of diseases, how do you think they do it? All on their own. Yes surely they helped us with a lot of other things but not to the point of where they're "spoon feeding us" everything.

Good example with the animals too!



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 05:08 AM
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I wonder if as part of nature's brilliant ability to provide what is needed in the environment, where it is needed, has something to do with this.

I am thinking of India and a man bitten by a snake (a cobra I think), who simply took leaves from a plant growing by the roadside and used them to make a poultice to help and cure the snakebite. His ancestors had always used this plant which I suspect grows where it is needed.

Allopathetic medicine has made such a take-over killing the naturapathic technique of dealing with illnesses. Also various governments have deliberately destroyed things like aromatherapy and herbalists and the specialist small growers of various plants etc that supply many practitioners, by forcing huge licensing fees which have allowed the superchains like B..ts to grab the market on essential oils etc etc that this knowledge is slowly being systematically destroyed and taken away from mankind.

I am NOT drumming down people's throats naturopathy and alternative health products but its philosophy is somewhat opposed to allopathy's high profit demands and bullet procedures which also probably includes vaccines which are such big business and forced on our children.

I do hope that with the disregard for the environment we still have or are able to save plants that have the ability to heal us.

Whether this knowledge came from aliens or not I don't know but keep an open mind. I do remember that we are told that the Angels who came to earth taught us about metals etc so why not about the plants and didn't we supp-osedly start off in a garden? Perhaps it depends on whether one considers fallen angels are in the alien box or whether by trial and error over the years, ancient man experimented with what was to hand to help health problems and eventually instinctively knew the power of plants to heal or kill.




posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 05:38 AM
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Hi OP and Everyone,
Very interesting thread, and a topic I have wondered about myself.
I watch a lot of documentaries about the different 'tribal' communities of people who still live off the land as their ancestors did.
These people know EVERY thing about their environment...flora, fauna...etc. I find it really hard to believe that years of 'trial and error' are how they learned this information. They know which plant...which leaves or roots....can ease a toothache, or coagulate blood from a wound.
They know what is edible....what is toxic....they even know how to make mixtures for tinctures and poultices, etc. I don't think it's crazy to suggest that they may have been taught.
What IS crazy, is how little we know (in our so-called modern society) about natural remedies and healing.
S&F
jacygirl



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 05:38 AM
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It's not fact just because you came up with a theory. Show some evidence that ancient astronauts existed at all?



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 05:52 AM
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It's not fact just because you came up with a theory.

I don't think the OP is stating its a fact its just a theory , unfortunately as with most if not all theories about Ancient Aliens its based on belief , supposition and little else .

Giorgio and the boys have a lot to answer for



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 06:01 AM
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Your theory is entertaining, but not particularly enticing. Recent examination of stone age mummies and preserved skeletonised persons, has shown signs that rudimentary surgical capability existed well before recorded history began. Given that the precursor species, which preceeded mankind as we know it today, were themselves evolved from older mammalian life forms, it is entirely possible that our ancient ancestors drew thier knowledge of herbalism and basic surgery from instinct and common sense, rather than book learning.

It is also worth remembering that necessity is the mother of invention, and ancient ancestors of mankind would find themselves in all kinds of trouble that you and I would have to make a serious effort to get into these days, therefore were constantly having to patch one another up. Having to fend off huge predatory beasts, traverse tough terrain without the aid of boots and so on, climb steep hills and cliffs, and with very little by way of safety precautions, you can see that they were exposed to far greater risk of serious injury than most people are today.

Not being able to rely on centralised governance (since most were still living in pack like formations) and organised healthcare, there would have been a greater awareness of survival and its importance, placed on each individual. It is likely that any fully developed individual in such a group would have been capable of finding and using herbs to treat pain, induce sleep, and so on and so forth. I am not suggesting that these folk knew CPR and understood the complexities of hydrostatic shock, but I reckon they were able to dig stone shards out of wounds, remove rotten tissue, treat headaches and the like, and create herbal pastes to prevent infection on open wounds.

No doubt thier methods were probably quite brutal, but I would have thought that being as close to nature as they were, it is likely that they were significantly more successful than some of the hack barbers that used to double as physicians in the time of King Henry the 8th for example.



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 06:03 AM
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Because there is absolutely no evidence for it , if Aliens had been holding our hand through our history we would have solid evidence that they exist yet we don't , surely now we're all grown up they would be out in the open taking credit for the great job they did but they aren't .


hm...I'm not holding OP's hand here...(even if it does have some merit IMO), but your argument is even less convincing.

let me edit your statement a bit...




Because there is absolutely no evidence for it , if God had been holding our hand through our history we would have solid evidence that he exists yet we don't , surely now we're all grown up he would be out in the open taking credit for the great job he did but he isn't .


...yet....majority of population believes in some unseen deity.


evidence be damned...so belief that aliens helped us is equally valid....



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 06:13 AM
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Faith based belief is not dictated by scientific rigor. If belief in aliens is based on faith rather than evidence, then it is cultism, and looses all scientific validity.

I do hope that is not what you are aiming for. If it is not, you may wish to examine your argument a little bit and re-word it accordingly.



posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 06:42 AM
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If belief in aliens is based on faith rather than evidence, then it is cultism, and looses all scientific validity.



everything we don't have evidence for...is based on faith. Science likes to call it..."probability", in order to stay secular...but in the end...it is based on faith...(not in a religious sense, but faith as in belief that it is most probable according to our current understanding...).

UFO debunkers for instance...often use belief that it would be near impossible for any species to come visit us...due to difficulties of space travel. But in reality...it is only an ant's belief...looking from his anthill.

And sure...you can call die hard alien believers cultists...and by definition...they could be labeled as such. But labels don't mean anything...they are there to degrade, insult and to diminish a group or a set of beliefs.

Many people have faith in their government..to do what is in best interest of the people...but that's all it is...faith. Since the evidence alien existence is either unavailable or witheld...doesn't mean that there won't be any in the near future. As for God...I'm pretty sure that ship won't dock in our harbor...if we are discussing potential evidence.



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