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"I just ran through the phony hit piece on ES via the ARS slime piece. Looks like ARS took its lessons well from the likes of Cass Sunstein et al. What a load of crap. I guess when the bastards come after me people like the OP and the author of the hit piece on ES will dredge up all of my Internet musings, ramblings, rants, psychotic meanderings, arguments, phantasies, and bannings as proof of a bad or ill formed character etc., and use them to vilify me too - huh? The article is pure garbage. Nobody here has anything on ES."
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
And in all of that effort, you haven't even managed to make an impact anywhere that I can see, while many of the things that I have championed are being turned into reality. See how actually getting out there and being the change you want to see in the world is better than simply ranting on ATS?
Bold statement to make consider that 2013 join date.
Ranting about posters doesn't change anything now back to Snowden.
edit on 27-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Why does my join date have anything to do with my political activism? My post was to the point. You told the Snowden supporters to step up, and I told you that some of us already had. No one is ranting about posters. You made yourself part of the thread when you trumpeted your own accomplishments. If you don't want to be the topic of discussion, don't make yourself the topic of discussion.
Originally posted by rocktsar
reply to post by neo96
"The Ars IRC server doesn't log conversations, and there are no official transcripts of any discussions on that server. However, after learning that Snowden appeared to be an Ars user, we received chat logs from multiple longtime users who recalled IRC conversations with the user known as TheTrueHOOHA."
arstechnica.com...
CONvenient...
Be careful who you trust people.
edit: new to ats, first post. Hi
edit on 27-6-2013 by rocktsar because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Guadeloupe
reply to post by freelance_zenarchist
Thank you - My exact same point here ...........The OP's phony article contains nothing to say that ES made any of those alleged remarks..........absolutely no proof...........
edit on 27-6-2013 by Guadeloupe because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Nothing does change there is an old saying the more things change the more they state the same.
Point of fact this country is the same as it ever was the only thing that has changed was the date.
But unlike you I know why things don't change. The msm covers it all up and people like you don't really care. In fact you are on this "alternative site" digging up dirt, which may or may not be true, but regardless show poor taste.
How the hell do you want change if you don't want any whistleblowers, and don't even comprehend that whistleblowing within the usa is a death sentence? How many examples of this does one need to cite??
He didn't divulge military secrets to any government, at least there is no proof of this. What he did do was divulge the NSA spying on americans at hong kong media outlets where he was immune from immediate prosecution. Sure its embarrasing but other than that there is no harm done to american, british, australian national security. He simply raised awareness levels for americans, british, australians.
Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
The Ars IRC server doesn't log conversations, and there are no official transcripts of any discussions on that server. However, after learning that Snowden appeared to be an Ars user, we received chat logs from multiple longtime users who recalled IRC conversations with the user known as TheTrueHOOHA.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
But unlike you I know why things don't change. The msm covers it all up and people like you don't really care. In fact you are on this "alternative site" digging up dirt, which may or may not be true, but regardless show poor taste.
Coverup what?
They are the ones who 'broke' America is 'Spying'.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by crazyewok
Such a romanticized vision of America where the reality
has been anything but.
edit on 27-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Yeah of course they broke the story. And look at the spin they put on it. There should be no question about hero or traitor. I don't see the media chastising the government for violating the bill of rights, its more in line with snowden is a traitor.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by TritonTaranis
For a group that supposedly 'prides' itself on questioning everything they are told they sure dropped the ball with Snowden.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
What part of this is so hard to understand?
NOTHING Snowden did is going to change ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.
I find your comments to be rather foolish. Edward Snowden's accomplishments are incalculable, and he hasn't even revealed anything significant as of yet. From this point forward the manner in which American citizens will relate to this oppressive regime - this overwhelmingly powerful surveillance state, will never be the same: everything has changed with respect to how the American people feel about their present condition. The same can be said for the way in which other nations throughout the world will be dealing with the USA. His actions are tantamount to a major national and international 'game changer.'
There has been much conjecture as to what motivated him to take such drastic action against his own government - this horrifically oppressive Stasi like Orwellian state. Edward Snowden, like Bradley Manning, and Julian Assange and many others before him, was guided by his conscience to reveal to the world the crimes of this government, and he is very straightforward about why he decided to leak this information. “I really want the focus to be on these documents and the debate which I hope this will trigger among citizens around the globe about what kind of world we want to live in.” He added: “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them.” I suspect he also had another motive and that was to play the role of "Game Changer."
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
And in all of that effort, you haven't even managed to make an impact anywhere that I can see, while many of the things that I have championed are being turned into reality. See how actually getting out there and being the change you want to see in the world is better than simply ranting on ATS?
Bold statement to make consider that 2013 join date.
Ranting about posters doesn't change anything now back to Snowden.
edit on 27-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Why does my join date have anything to do with my political activism? My post was to the point. You told the Snowden supporters to step up, and I told you that some of us already had. No one is ranting about posters. You made yourself part of the thread when you trumpeted your own accomplishments. If you don't want to be the topic of discussion, don't make yourself the topic of discussion.
Yeah right
Try reading this thread, and say that again.