Originally posted by Rocker2013
Originally posted by DocHolidaze
if everything is natural why does there need to be gay ads, gay parades, and constant media attention on the gay community more so than before.
Because, all over the world, gay people are still not equal in the eyes of the law, and that is fundamentally wrong.
Sorry man but I have to disagree with you on that statement, at least here in the US. Do you mind telling me how you are not equal to me?
If you are gay in America can you exercise your freedom of speech and religion, can you exercise your right to own a gun, can the military force you
to quarter a soldier in your home, are you free within your possessions and free from unreasonable searches of your property, are you forced to
incriminate yourself or answer to a capital crime with an indictment, do you enjoy the right to a speedy trial and to confront your accuser, do you
have the right to trial by a jury of your peers, can the courts impose excessive bail upon you, can the Constitution be construed to deny you your
rights? A gay person in the US shares the same Constitutional Rights as a straight person, black person, Asian, Indian, Latino, or any other race as
well as the same rights as a Hindu, Satanist, Christian, Muslim, Druidic, or any other religion. Yes you have the same declared rights under the Bill
of Rights that I do.
Can a gay person vote, own a home, seek gainful employment, enjoy free travel, own a car, pay taxes, join the military, run for public office, or
anything else that a straight, bi, or auto-sexual person?
Yes they can, the only thing under federal law that a gay person cannot do is get married and perhaps you should study the Constitution to find your
answer instead of making everyone out to be a "bigot" or hate monger. Gays have the same fundamental rights as anyone else does.
The fact is that the US Constitution limits the governments ability to interfere in religion and regardless of what anyone says marriage has
traditionally been a religious act. For centuries marriage was a ceremony that was performed by a religious leader such as preacher, priest, etc. The
idea of government being involved in marriage is a 20th century issue here in the US and that is only because of tax laws.
You say that gays are not equal, well I would tend to say that they receive more protections from government than straight people do and here is why.
If someone walks up to me calls me a straight man and punches me in the face and batters me, it is battery. However if I am gay and someone walks up
to me calls me a [insert derogatory gay slang here] punches me in the face and batters me then it is a hate crime and the perpetrator receives a
stiffer punishment under federal hate crime laws.
I have a brother whom is gay and 2 cousins that are gay so I am by no means a gay basher or have anything against gays, to each their own and while I
may not agree with what you believe or say I would defend your right to do so to the death.
My brother has often said that the gay rights organizers don't want equality, that they want special rights and there are many times that I think he
is right with that assessment. Like I said if gays want to have legally recognized marriages in the eyes of the federal government then perhaps they
should push for a constitutional amendment that will recognize such.
Either way I don't believe the government has any business being involved with who I marry, that's why while my wife and I are married we actually are
not married. We had our ceremony where we exchanged vows but as far as the government is concerned we are 2 single people living in the same house
because we don't have a marriage license and we like it that way.
Granted it is easy for us to have each other on our insurance since we already had the same last name. And no we didn't meet at the family reunion and
are not cousins.
edit on 11-6-2013 by Nucleardiver because: (no reason given)
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