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we are simply not speaking about numbers at all but about something much more esoterical (with "dimensions", "structures" and complex numbers which are obviously not the usual kind of combined real-part + imaginary-part).
Originally posted by QuantumCounterfeit64
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
You said negative numbers cannot exist. Yet. If I owe someone 5 dollars whether I pay them back or not I still have -5 dollars. Because I still owe them until it's paid back. If you have an atom and you take away 5 neutrons and it's supposed to have 10. It is negative 5 neutrons even with the positive 5.
Root point though we can't visually observe negative numbers they do exist.
There are irrational numbers after all.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
That has absolutely nothing to do with irrational numbers.
An irrational number is only so unintuitive because it contains an infinite sequence of digits.
It's simply a value that cannot be expressed as of ratio between two integers.
Is reality irrational? Is it insane? Is there no order to it all?
Right. But numbers aren't reality (unless you are counting things) anyway.
Yes, which implies it must have an infinite series of digits.
In punnery all words can be considered interchangeable.
I don't think the term irrational and insane are interchangeable in the way you have used them.
i've never understood the position that the universe is infinite. what would you say to expansion and entropy?
Right. But numbers aren't reality (unless you are counting things) anyway.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
An irrational number is only so unintuitive because it contains an infinite sequence of digits.
It doesn't really have anything to do with being "unintuitive". It's simply a value that cannot be expressed as of ratio between two integers. Quite different concept than i.
But my comment was more of a joke. Is reality irrational? Is it insane? Is there no order to it all?
edit on 6/13/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
But quantum mechanics does not really deal with irrational numbers. A quantum is a single unit. An integer.
Or unless you're dealing with quantum mechanics
So couldn't an irrational number represent the distance between us by using some very tiny incremental scale of measurement?
But quantum mechanics do not really deal with irrational numbers. A quantum is a single unit. An integer.