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Proposal to lock copyright infringing computers.

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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 06:59 AM
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In the proposal, which spans 84-pages, the Commission stated that software can be pre-installed on computers for the purpose of monitoring and identifying copyright-violating activity, which is comprised of storing, using, or copying such content. If the software detects copyright-violating activities of any of those sorts, it would cause the computer or its files to being locked.

Once the files and/or computer was locked, it would show up with a dialog that requires a password in order to unlock the system, as well as instructions telling the computer user to contact a law enforcement agency, which will have the password necessary to unlock the computer. The obvious part of this being, one will theoretically end up confessing to piracy.

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Problem is people will probably confuse it with the fake FBI Moneypak virus that keeps going around. Not to mention if people want to pirate bad enough they'll move to an OS that isn't targeted by this proposed malware or built in system "feature."




posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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The irony with this in case if it pushes through, the buyer actually pays for this built-in malware to monitor the him since i doubt the manufacturer will absorb the cost of the firmware where this malware is going to reside.
It really sucks when you have to pay for the bullet that will be used to hit you.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:10 AM
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Proposal to lock copyright infringing computers


My first PC was in 1997... Windows 95. It was apt to blue-screen at the drop of a hat but you had almost full control of your own machine. There were no files denied to the user within and you could pretty much sail the digital oceans with the freedom of an old timey buccaneer.

Of course, too much freedom led to people being able to share music and stuff they had purchased, which led to laws that say you don't actually own what you buy and paid sales tax on, which led to OS's like Windows 7 where you have roughly a third (which was also purchased) that you are denied access to.

Next up?

Try to copy and paste a few lines from a news story or a picture from some website and your machine locks down, the FBI knocks down your door and you spend the next 18 months working to pay Hollywood or CNN or some other poor, hungry corporation for your heinous crime.

That's my dime on the subject... and I had prolly better go lock my back door now.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:22 AM
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Honestly, to overcome Copyrights they will just invent a new medium.

maybe a lossless version of audio encoded on crystal or special water cube, then in order to copyright infringe this new tech, you'll need some high priced gear as well. A purposely made medium that uses money to make sure you cannot copy.

I can always run dual boot with linux and win x, if It really got bad, not to mention this wouldn't deter the majority of pirates, since they are the savy users who would use dual boot or OS clones anyways. You can only tell people to stop taking your stuff, you cannot actually make them stop doing it, without :

A: ridding yourself of stuff
B: allowing stuff to be everyones
C: placing stuff in a box, wrapped and bowed, but with a pie on a spring inside, with a wrench inside that

( Funny that they went with letter C, of course Digitally, ( since it's digitally you cannot monitor 24/7 like your car or home, sorry rambos )

On a honest note, it's just like trying to stop viruses and malware, funny how the two unsolvable issues online merged together to form the ultra unsolvable oxymoron.... The Malware Copyright Cracker! lol And if you believe that will work I have Little TaxslayingTrolldolls to sell you, gotta buy one at a time, and pay shipping handling, and you will lower your taxes....*shrug*
edit on 28-5-2013 by Tranceopticalinclined because: to explain the rambo paradox



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:24 AM
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The proposal states that such a method of combating piracy wouldn’t violate any laws, but would “stabilize” an infringement situation and get police involved. While that method is allegedly legal, the next one – which is arguably crazier than the first – is not: deliberately infecting computers with malware designed to do several things, including snapping a picture of the computer user with their webcam without their permission.



Yeah, this will never happen.

Or if it did, see the lists of custom made computer vendors skyrocket overnight. Unless it's embedded into every OS retailed, or it's deliberately infecting computers nationwide when they visit pr0n, I see no way it's gonna happen. And even in the latter cases, there will be ways around it.

If it did happen, it would ensnare the dumbest people on the internet. Who would get in trouble, which would get publicized, and it would reach the end goal of being an extremely complicated scheme at creating fear.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by marhaba
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The irony with this in case if it pushes through, the buyer actually pays for this built-in malware to monitor the him since i doubt the manufacturer will absorb the cost of the firmware where this malware is going to reside.
It really sucks when you have to pay for the bullet that will be used to hit you.


It's not going to happen this generation... But as I speak to people from the generation that came after me, I wonder about the kids they'll have. They already seem so damn brainwashed, I fear their offspring will look to alphabet agencies to decide whether or not they should be pooing on Sunday.

The next one, the next group of morons to run and be the world.... I might believe they could be entirely dumb enough to let this happen.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:35 AM
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Why wouldn't you just reinstall the OS fresh? Easy fix if you ask me.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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This pretty much already exists and with games consoles becoming online only or 'in the cloud' we're a hop skip and a jump away from handing our ability to copy data over to manufacturers.


On 5 June 2009, the licensing agreements for AACS were finalized, which were updated to make Cinavia detection on commercial Blu-ray disc players a requirement.[12]
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As far as PCs go though, unless hardware starts getting stored in the cloud we will always have Linux to fall back on and I imagine if Apple and Micro$oft were dumb enough to go this way ... we will all be penguin lovers in under a couple of years.

For the record, I don't support piracy but I recently had my own show reel flagged as pirated on my cloud service. Is quite silly.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 08:05 AM
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Have those guys heard of the 5th amendment?

You know, the once about having the right not to self incriminate yourself.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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In the proposal, which spans 84-pages, the Commission stated that software can be pre-installed on computers for the purpose of monitoring and identifying copyright-violating activity

lol they just wasted a lot of time writing 84 pages for nothing because that idea is never going to fly. Microsoft and Apple would never agree to include such software on their operating systems (openly) because it would seriously damage their sales, as a lot of people would be forced over to Linux OS's. This is like some completely ridiculous last ditch effort to stop the unstoppable torrent software. I mean who even comes up with these stupid ideas.
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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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It would never work as it would require world wide support and as for getting the password to unlock the machine...there will be a keygen working within hours and just wait for the lawsuits to appear which would tie the malware into stasis for so long it would be useless when the first false positive such as a linux iso causes systems to shut down



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
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This is like some completely ridiculous last ditch effort to stop the unstoppable torrent software. I mean who even comes up with these stupid ideas.
edit on 28/5/2013 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)


Greedy bastards who think they don't have enough money, and think that there should be rules against everything, that affects YOU, not THEM. You know the ones who think you should be paying them the privilege to live.

This will shoot them in the foot.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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Oh wow, someone should get ahold of this and reprogram it so that anyone who visits a government site gets their computer locked.
I guess I wouldn't last the day.



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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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Op I have read yours and several others replies, and I feel compelled to point out one major flaw with their thinking.

There is no such construct as code that can't be defeated, nor will there ever be.

If their software can do this, reliably, then why do comp viruses exist?

It will be less than a week after this OS is released and a patch on the pirate bay will overcome and criple it.

There will never be such a thing, if people want to over come it.

Fear not, plenty of people get their "lulz" wink wink, from doing just that.

I hope these companies waste hundreds of millions of dollars developing this , so it can be rendered worthless and I can sit back and laugh.

Hey I know, don't want to get your copywrighted crap lifted?a



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 09:08 AM
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I'll wait for the next round of Anti Piracy innovation.

It's the one where you go onto a torrent site, download pirated software, install it, and then phone the fbi yourself.

You may or may not also have dodgy porn that you openly confess to.

...

I am so confused by the world. This sort of thing would simply trap mouth breathers. And that's if they somehow made the leap from Operating System to Law Enforcement System.

argh, there's already enough people that think windows right out of the box pops off and contacts the microsoft fbi servers to tell them that you're accessing ats and learning the secrets of the universe that should remain the domain of the elite..


Boncho is right... I fear the childrens children..



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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Yeah, and all people will do is wipe the hard drive and load up again.

No problem if you keep backups.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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I just don't see it happening.

Firstly Law Enforcement Agencies around the world will have to add Special Units to deal with this. Keeping in mind that budgets are already tight and they hardly have the man power to fight rising crime. Secondly, can you image the 50 calls a night in a town with a populous of about 1000 and most of them are elderly folk who don't even have a clue what Piracy is? Thirdly, like any other software it can be removed.
In addition, how about those who build their own systems, like myself. I will be the first to admit that I will not be installing any Garbage like that.

On the other hand what if they implemented it into the BIOS? In that case. . see . .firstly and secondly.

You can put this in your "AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN" Pile and flush it.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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I actually wish this would happen and think it's a Great idea.

Why? This would force the Linux community to get their ducks in order and perfect WINE and other such technologies so Linux could run everything a Microsoft system can. ( Wine makes PC programs run on Linux but it's not perfect yet)

This would force game developers to work with Linux and or perhaps make all games both DirectX and Open GL compliant. Once that happens Linux because it's free would skyrocket causing Microsoft to dwindle. Microrsoft won't do this because they know it will backfire. Every year Linux is getting better at running PC programs.

We are talking stop the Microsoft Monopoly and let Freedom Ring baby. Yeah.
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posted on May, 28 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
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I just don't see it happening.

Firstly Law Enforcement Agencies around the world will have to add Special Units to deal with this. Keeping in mind that budgets are already tight and they hardly have the man power to fight rising crime. Secondly, can you image the 50 calls a night in a town with a populous of about 1000 and most of them are elderly folk who don't even have a clue what Piracy is? Thirdly, like any other software it can be removed.
In addition, how about those who build their own systems, like myself. I will be the first to admit that I will not be installing any Garbage like that.

On the other hand what if they implemented it into the BIOS? In that case. . see . .firstly and secondly.

You can put this in your "AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN" Pile and flush it.


Even if they put it on the bios chip, it's then up to the individual manufacturers to comply. Not just the OS, or a company. There are many cheap brand mobos. Many bios versions.

It's not going to happen.

What it is, this, is some white haired old fart sitting in a high paid position within some egg head company being paid obscene amounts to come up with plans to solve the issues.

He probably has a team of workers underneath him all groaning and shaking their heads going "Ugh why won't they just retire him..." and trying to explain why it just won't work.

But as it goes in the business, those guys are the cream, and the cattle that make the cream look good simply get told what to do.



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