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Originally posted by peashooter
In order to discount the existence of aliens, you must first solve: animal mutilations which occur on a frequent basis, mutilations of the Russian Hikers who died mysteriously(the commander resigned and refused to sign a statement for the cause of death), alien abductions, as well as countless UFO sightings, some of which diverted jumbo jets, followed by military crafts, showed up on radar, even shut down an airport.
Originally posted by peashooter
This is not proof for existence of aliens, but we cannot say the opposite.
Originally posted by peashooter
Regarding your comment: "Much of the research today on the Great Pyramid is carried out by archeologists, engineers, scientists, architects, mathematicians, and scholars from many disciplines. "
Originally posted by peashooter
Think about it, why else would it be one of the wonders of the world if professionals can easily determine the methods to build it?
Originally posted by peashooter
It wouldn't be so mysterious if professionals have the answer to it. Simple, no need to ask for who the experts are.
Originally posted by mbkennel
reply to post by jheherrin
By the way, the Great Pyramids of Egypt in their original condition were made of marble.
They used to be covered with smooth, and exceptionally well polished white marble. The capstone was the best part, and often gold plated. Now they're gone.
Originally posted by Welby
This was said perfectly Alien view. There is indeed no clear evidence that the Egyptians built it.
Most interestingly, the storage galleries also contained hundreds of papyrus fragments.
Among them, 10 were very well preserved.
“They are the oldest papyri ever found,” Tallet said
Many of the papyri describe how the central administration, under the reign of Cheops, sent food -- mainly bread and beer -- to the workers involved in the Egyptian expeditions departing from the port.
But one papyrus is much more intriguing: it's the diary of Merrer, an Old Kingdom official involved in the building of the Great Pyramid of Cheops.
From four different sheets and many fragments, the researchers were able to follow his daily activity for more that three months.
"He mainly reported about his many trips to the Turah limestone quarry to fetch block for the building of the pyramid," Tallet said.
“Although we will not learn anything new about the construction of Cheops monument, this diary provides for the first time an insight on this matter," Tallet said.
Originally posted by Chukkles
Why would aliens build tombs for humans who worshipped cats?
It makes no sense.
The egos must have been astounding.
Originally posted by Harte
Not marble. Fine white limestone from Tura. Kahfre's pyramid next door still has it in the upper parts of his pyramid
Originally posted by AlienView
reply to post by greyer
History tells us the 'Egyptian race' no longer exists. They are still studying the DNA of modern day so-called Egyptians for more info about who the original Ancient Egyptians were. If you have followed alien hypothesis as to humanity you will find some human DNA can be classified as alien code:
ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com...
So if I were to give in to the opposition and admit that the so called Ancient Egyptians did in fact create the pyramids it would be with another hypotheses thrown in - that being that the Ancient Egyptians of that era were in fact at least part alien, their gods based upon real alien beings and their disappearance as a race was not caused by invasion and inter-breeding but because they left this planet for other parts of the universe - Maybe pyramid power is more significant than you can imagine - possibly they needed the energy for a science yet to be understood by modern humans.
The more you look at the theories surrounding the construction of Egypt's Pyramids the more you come to the logical conclusion that even if it were possible for the Egyptians to construct them there is no evidence that they had the technology to do so; No writings exist describing how and no tools have ever been found that would be capable of cutting stones with such mathematical precision and no traces of devices capable of lifting stones weighing many tons have ever been found.
Originally posted by peashooter
reply to post by Argyll
I thought that's just a device to tell time? Similar to a sundial.
How do you build the Pyramid of Gyza with a watch?
If you take the perimeter of the pyramid and divide it by two times the height, you get a number that is exactly equivalent to the number pi (3.14159...) up to the fifteenth digit. The chances of this phenomenon happening by sheer chance is remarkably small. Did the ancient Egyptians know what the number pi was? Not likely, seeing as it was a number not calculated accurately to the fourth digit until the 6th century, and the pyramids calculate it to the fifteenth. What about the fact that even though the sides of the base of the pyramid are some 757 feet long, it still forms an almost perfect square? Every angle in the base is exactly 90 degrees. In fact, the sides have a difference in length of something like two centimeters, which is an incredibly small amount. What about the fact that although the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, there were no records of them ever having built the pyramids? What about the fact that the Egyptians had not even invented the wheel yet, but the blocks that they had to carry to build the pyramids weighed about 2 tons each? 4,000 lbs.? What did they do... use cement? In fact, they used so much stone, that if you took all of the stone they used and cut it into 1 foot square blocks, it would extend 2/3 of the way around the earth!!! If you take the line of longitude that the pyramid lies on and the latitude that the pyramid lies on, 31 degrees north by 31 degrees west (the fact that they are the same number is a coincidence???) they are the two lines that cover the most combined land area in the world. In essence, the pyramid is the center of all of the land mass of the whole earth!!!! How about the fact that a group of modern scientists attempted to build a pyramid out next to the real one using modern technologies, and after something like 100 days, succeeded in building one about 1/40 of the size of the real one???? Did you know that the height of the pyramid (481 feet) is almost exactly 1/1,000,000,000 of the distance from the earth to the sun (480.6 billion feet)? What about all of that fungi that was found in King Tutu's chamber? Fungi which has never before been seen on earth? What about the Pharaoh's curse????? You decide, who built the Pyramids????? Aliens have definetly constructed the pyramids, so what have the egyptians done on this earth?
Originally posted by AlienView
reply to post by Argyll
Impressive pictures Argyll; Wonderful art has come out of Ancient Egypt but it is easier to paint picture than build a massive pyramid with simple tools.
I just turned this up which was posted on the internet some years ago. Like your art work and simple tools it proves nothing - but like other details given by peashooter, Smirnov, etc. on this thread it leaves open anecdotal evidence to the original hypothesis that the Pyramids were of alien construction and/or design:
If you take the perimeter of the pyramid and divide it by two times the height, you get a number that is exactly equivalent to the number pi (3.14159...) up to the fifteenth digit. The chances of this phenomenon happening by sheer chance is remarkably small.
The pyramid of Cheops hase a base length of 230,38 m, and a height of 146.6 m. If you take two times the base length, and divide this by the height, you get a value of "3,14297...".
Originally posted by AlienView
What about the fact that even though the sides of the base of the pyramid are some 757 feet long, it still forms an almost perfect square? Every angle in the base is exactly 90 degrees. In fact, the sides have a difference in length of something like two centimeters, which is an incredibly small amount.
Lengths of sides cubits (meters)
North 439.67(230.25m) , south 440.05 (230.25m)
East 439.93 (230.39m) , west 439.87 (230.36m)
Originally posted by AlienView
What about the fact that although the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, there were no records of them ever having built the pyramids?
Originally posted by AlienView
What about the fact that the Egyptians had not even invented the wheel yet, but the blocks that they had to carry to build the pyramids weighed about 2 tons each?
Originally posted by AlienView
What did they do... use cement? In fact, they used so much stone, that if you took all of the stone they used and cut it into 1 foot square blocks, it would extend 2/3 of the way around the earth!!!
Originally posted by AlienView
If you take the line of longitude that the pyramid lies on and the latitude that the pyramid lies on, 31 degrees north by 31 degrees west (the fact that they are the same number is a coincidence???)
29.9792° N, 31.1342° E
Great Pyramid of Giza, Coordinates
The mass of the pyramid is estimated at 5.9 million tonnes. The volume, including an internal hillock, is roughly 2,500,000 cubic metres. Based on these estimates, building this in 20 years would involve installing approximately 800 tonnes of stone every day. Similarly, since it consists of an estimated 2.3 million blocks, completing the building in 20 years would involve moving an average of more than 12 of the blocks into place each hour, day and night
who will argue that ancient Egyptians had the technology and power to cut a stone far out in some mountains, move it to the Nile, load it onto a barge, floating it down (or up) the Nile, unload it from the barge onto the land, roll it and push it, and pull it and lifting it and finally place it on its place in the pyramid and ALL of these activities in 5 MINUTES .... ???
Originally posted by wmd_2008
Well graves of the workers have been found they were human
"That idea of the slaves came from Herodotus," the Greek historian and explorer, Hawass continues. Herodotus visited Egypt around 450 B.C., about 2,000 years after the pyramids were constructed, and was told that 100,000 men had been forced to toil as slaves on the Great Pyramid of the pharaoh Khufu.
Thus the Giza monuments, which were constructed during the 4th-dynasty reigns of Kings Khufu, Khafre, and Menkaure (about 2550 to 2470 B.C.), required some 80 years to build
So not the 20 years that the alien believers say to make it look impossible for humans to have done it.
The people worked as teams and even had team names like lots of modern companies do to encourage a competative nature to increase productivity.
Similar team-name inscriptions have been found inside the pyramids. On two blocks in the highest chamber of Khufu's Great Pyramid, for example, a gang of workers painted hieroglyphics that read "Friends of Khufu." And in Menkaure's mortuary temple another group displayed its insignia: "Drunkards of Menkaure."
So there is plenty of evidence to show humans did it if you stop using BS alien web sites as your only source of info.