World War III

reply to post by GargIndia


I think that is right.

Joe

Gold can save your life in a bad situation.

Every man should wear a gold band (at least 18 carat) in one finger having weight of at least 5 gms.

Every women should wear a gold band and gold chain not less than 20 gms gold of at least 18 carats.

Paper currency is totally in control of Satanic forces and its value cannot be predicted.

The electronic money (bank balances) can be seized at any time.

Gold can fetch you groceries or other critical supplies in a bad time.

Do not buy gold coins. The government will seize gold coins.

Only safe thing is personal jewelry.

reply to post by GargIndia


I beg to disagree if you think exports in China is not declining. Here read this, it's very recent.


Source: Bloomberg

China Export Gains Seen Halved With Fake-Data Crackdown

China’s crackdown on fake export invoices used to disguise money flows is probably cutting the nation’s trade figures, revealing subdued global demand that will weigh on economic growth. Outbound shipments may have grown 7.1 percent in May from a year earlier, less than half the previous month’s reported 14.7 percent, based on the median estimate of 34 economists ahead of data due June 8. Import growth probably slowed to 6.9 percent from April’s 16.8 percent, a Bloomberg News survey showed.

Also i would like to ask you why do you think India would side more to the east, i can understand India trying to be neutral and sitting on the sidelines but to my knowledge, most chinese still resents their government even until now for its mishandling of Manipur. Most of the chinese i've talked to would like to get Manipur to be integrated with China and ironically, a Manipurian i asked where they think they prefer to be which country they should be, he said they actually want to be independent.

reply to post by marhaba


China may be stuffing the data. But the same is true of USA and perhaps many European countries.

Yes it is worse than "official" numbers.

This data does not change the big picture.

Your quoted issue about Manipur is interesting. I know the Mongoloid (or Chinese looking) people living in Eastern India have issues with the Indian government. However it is a million dollar question if such people will live under direct Chinese rule. They have become used to far more freedom than they they can ever get under Chinese rule.

Can Manipur exist as an independent State? I would give it about 5% chance until somebody larger gobbled it up.

My arguments are based on hard reality. The West has been against or at best indifferent for India. If you tell me suddenly things will change - I really doubt it.

reply to post by JoeP2247


The "global war on terror" is world war three. World War 4 is shaping up to be a fat bankers best dream.

Bilderberg meeting:

It is clear that Germany is becoming the Boss in Europe, at the expense of France.

Great Britain does not gain anything.

There is a division developing in Europe which will ultimately kill the Euro.

At some point Germany will withdraw from Euro and then Euro will just self-destruct.

Financial assets in Euro are at least as much risky (or more) compared to USD.

In WWIII, barter may work better than 'selling' or 'buying' things.

Government will be against the citizens, and will impose grave restrictions on how commerce is to be conducted.

I see several older series of higher denomination of USD get discontinued. This will be to kill a lot of USD in storage overseas (that can be used against USA as a financial asset).

I also see USA applying haircut to bank accounts and pension plans at some point. It will be worse in Europe where a lot of people will end up losing everything in the bank.

reply to post by GargIndia

True, unless the Constitution is forcefully applied to the US government you are no doubt correct.
I'll keep on that.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Constitution can be applied only when people are committed to it and are organized.

Mental and physical corruption of the society is at such high level that people are not what they say they are.

You need a very large number of people who are committed to the cause they place above death. Maybe more than 10 million. Can you find such numbers of people willing to fight?

European events are climaxing quickly.

Germany and England have always favored strong currency. Germany has traditionally managed its economy well.

Great Britain has not been so fortunate in managing its economy since second world war. However its diaspora and investments overseas have helped its currency.

The majority of European nations in euro zone cannot live with strong Euro, as it hurts their economies.

The actors to watch are Germany and France - the two pillars of Euro-zone. If cracks start developing in these pillars, the fall of edifice is not far away.

There will be other things to watch - the military aspects. The Germans will expand their military as a result of their enhanced role in Europe, which is not liked by France. However such news may be well hidden and may not appear in MSM.

reply to post by GargIndia


Thanks for your answers. I absolutely agree with you on the Manipurian issue but with regards to each of our views on China's exports and economy, let's just agree to disagree.

reply to post by marhaba


Even if China's economy is growing at half the official rate, it is still growing. That is pretty good when you factor in Europe in recession and US barely growing.

My yardsticks are different. China has sources for minerals and energy that it needs, and it has factories to process them. It has reached food self sufficiency. There could be problems here and there but nothing that is unmanageable.

It is still a socialist state so citizens are guaranteed housing and basic medical care.

The issue is unemployment if large number of factories close down. It is possible. The question is can china feed the unemployed. I think it can.

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Yes.

reply to post by GargIndia


HONG KONG — Chinese exports showed only modest growth in May, rising just 1 percent from a year earlier, officials said Saturday, an increase that was much lower than analysts’ expectations.
www.nytimes.com...

If China fails to maintain a VERY high growth rate - over 7.5% they do face the reality that there will be a rebellion.

What has been happening in China is that peasant workers were displaced from farms to work in manufacturing and the lands they were farming have been destroyed. These people will have no where to go. That is why China has to maintain such a high growth rate - and they are not doing it.

It is a very dangerous situation.

reply to post by JoeP2247


Nobody is buying anymore. How will export grow?

No country can manage a growth rate of 7.5% for a long time. It is impossible economically.

People migrate for work and then return when such work is no longer available. Situation is same in India where 100-150 million people may be migrant workers.

Chinese government can create domestic demand to absorb a lot of these people if exports slow down.

A war in east asia does not equal a world war, even if death tolls would be greater. I see no reason for Russia, USA or Europe to get involved in such a conflict, especially if it turned nuclear. Far better to allow your rivals destroy each other, rather than get involved in a war where all sides lose

reply to post by GargIndia



Nobody is buying anymore. How will export grow?

No country can manage a growth rate of 7.5% for a long time. It is impossible economically.


That is right Garg - it is impossible - but if they cannot do this China is a revolution waiting to happen.

It is really true. That is why the US is so careful about handling China - they know damn well that government is not in a position to decide anything now.

China is a house of cards.

Joe

Originally posted by MortlitantiFMMJ
A war in east asia does not equal a world war, even if death tolls would be greater. I see no reason for Russia, USA or Europe to get involved in such a conflict, especially if it turned nuclear. Far better to allow your rivals destroy each other, rather than get involved in a war where all sides lose

You so sure? - Explain WWI to me.

IF say - the state capitalists in Bejing were about to fall to Maoist rebels - what do you think the US might do - or the Russians for that matter, for example.

I personally think it is impossible to game this thing out.

But the result seems inevitable.

Joe

reply to post by JoeP2247


I think you guys might want to read the stuff by Bruce Bueno de Mesquita out of NYU. After all, the History Channel has named him the "Next Nostradamus," and his predictions for China are much darker than mine. And since the CIA uses him and his extraordinary game-theory he should be required reading about now.

Joe

reply to post by JoeP2247


Joe, I know game theory is big with NWO.

Chess was very popular with Indian kings for the same reason.

The conclusion of a revolution in China is over-simplistic. It may be more like NWO wanting it to happen, then something that is destined to happen.

Every large country has significant population that is disadvantaged. China is not unique.