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posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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What??? Nobody on here can see #!!!


Originally posted by maddy21
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intresting...glad to see another Indian in here.....You said you can predict the future or see visions of it... When do you see the whole ting escalating out of control ? or any rough date on the start of the war ?




posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 09:49 PM
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India just may kick China's ass. They are nuclear, well educated, well armed, and nearly as populous. Oh and if it draws in larger powers, the US would be on India's side. Also military trade from Israel to India is huge. Coincidence?



Originally posted by GargIndia
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India suffers from every type of unrest - farmers, factory workers, sects, and what not. The judiciary is over-burdened with cases filed for denial of promotions in government jobs and other type of nepotism.

It depends what you count and what you do not.

I am not downplaying discontent in China. I am saying it does not have critical mass.

The economic growth rate has no direct relationship with revolutions.

I graduated (in India) from college at a time of great unrest and almost financial collapse of Indian State. Still no revolution took place. Ultimately situation stabilized.

The Chinese society greatly values stability. This is not going to change overnight.

China is NO middle east. The Sunnis are some of the worst anarchists. It takes little to foment trouble in middle-east.

edit on 14-6-2013 by princeofpeace because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 10:08 PM
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Garg-

The Chinese peasants were lured off their farms for factory jobs. When they moved the Chinese government raped their land. If they cannot get the factory jobs and their farms have already been destroyed they will have nowhere to go. This is why that high growth rate has been necessary. It is a large reason they built all those ghost cities and those other nonsensical projects.

I think all of humanity turns to anarchy with just three days without food.

Those peasants will have no choice but to revolt. That is the harsh reality. Starvation is the best motivator in this sick way. I really hope this does not happen.

Joe



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 10:27 PM
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And why would a lot of Chinese peasants go without food for three days??

The Chinese State can ensure food security at the minimum even in worst economic conditions. And I consider current economic conditions quite good, so it is not an issue.

The socialist system ensures subsidized food and shelter to all citizens in China.

How much percentage of farms are diverted to industrial use? It cannot be a very large number. The land has been taken over for industrial, residential or roads projects. This does not mean the agricultural land has just disappeared.

The labor requirement in agriculture has fallen drastically due to mechanization. Same in India too. The motivation for move to cities is to supplant agricultural income which is rather low for most of the families.

As I said earlier - injustice ranks higher than poverty as a cause of rebellion. If a revolution has to occur soon in China, it can come only from a widespread feeling of injustice - along with means to organize and acquire arms.



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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GHOST cities

There has been huge real estate boom in developing countries. It is encouraged by government to boost growth rate, as well as a means to utilize surplus capital in the system.

If you think ghost cities are unique to China, think again? India has a lot of un-used residential and commercial property as well.

However Chinese have better strategic thinking. They may resort to moving population away from current population centers in case of a war. This will help contain casualties.



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 10:43 PM
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"As I said earlier - injustice ranks higher than poverty as a cause of rebellion. If a revolution has to occur soon in China, it can come only from a widespread feeling of injustice - along with means to organize and acquire arms."


NO - most revolts that occur really are over not having enough to eat.

Gaining arms can just mean stealing them. That is exactly how the French revolution worked. The peasants just "stormed the bastille" so to speak.

I really wish I could find that article from The Economist from a few years ago - what is playing out now is almost exactly what they were predicting. China will implode shortly. By the way, how exactly is the communist state going to get the money to pay for the food for the masses will demand? I'll tell you what the Economist bottom line was - they better grow at 7.5%.



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 10:57 PM
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You blew the cover by mentioning "The Economist".

So we have a published plan for China that I was not aware of.

We shall see. We cannot argue to death. My prediction is a revolution in China wont happen in your lifetime.

You can note it down and let me know five year from now - on the same forum via a message to me after five years.

You have no idea of what powers soul possesses that God has given. No material machinery can even remotely match the power of the soul. This power is completely absent in the evil and the wicked.



posted on Jun, 14 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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The Economist is just the name of a magazine you know.
And I think they are very reputable.

Unfortunately if I am right it should be next year - before October - and
I am sure hoping it is wrong.

Good exchanges with you Garg -
Joe



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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"The publication belongs to The Economist Group, half of which is owned by Pearson PLC via the Financial Times. A group of independent shareholders, including many members of the staff and the Rothschild banking family of England,[7] owns the rest. A board of trustees formally appoints the editor, who cannot be removed without its permission."

This is a publication owned and influenced by the Rothschild family.

The NWO wants to control thought processes of people. It either controls media or directs it.

I am not saying what Economist says is outright false. They employ very smart people and have large sources of information. But they have an agenda. They are not dispassionate observers as a news outlet should be.

We shall see. I have noted down your statement in my diary.

Now it is either you or me. Wish you all the best!



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 05:02 AM
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For lovers of Pakistan:

edition.cnn.com...

"Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Assailants bombed the home of the Pakistani founding father early Saturday, killing a police officer who fought back and injuring an employee, authorities said.

The home of founding father Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah is in the country' s militant-hit Balochistan province.

Four attackers entered the home in the dead of the night, planted the timed bombs and fled, said Tahir Nadeem, the local deputy commissioner."

When something great has to happen, omens always appear. This is the omen for death of the State of Pakistan.



posted on Jun, 16 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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Is the soul then subdued by the acts of the possessor? I don't see that as possible since our souls are not of this plane but higher frequency elements so the soul or it's powers would remain.

I do see our souls as having been subdued by some other means or we could alter this reality at will.
I think we are under an infernal veil and we all decide for ourselves who we are as beings on this plane.
War is allowed to happen because we aren't entirely unified in a complete collective and corruption requires it.
The internet is slowly chipping away at the artificial walls that have been built so ,logically, we will learn not to fight.



posted on Jun, 16 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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Cavtrooper: I can tell you the Vedic view.

The God is pure, just, all knowing and all pervading.

The soul is pure, but limited in knowledge, minute in size, and suffers from illusion. The illusion creates defects of "kama" (material desires), "krodh" (anger), "lobh" (greed), "moh" (Attachment - to other souls and worldly possessions) and "ahankaar" (ego - that creates self awareness and sense of superiority in many people).

The five defects further create the vices - jealousy and corruption in humans.

Veda asks humans to win over the above five defects by a regimen of 10 commandments - like truthfulness, vegetarianism, non-violence, abstinence from sex except for procreation, selfless service etc.

The violence in society exists due to lack of moral foundations. Our society promotes only material well being and power over others. Such a society can never live in peace.



posted on Jun, 16 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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I am shamelessly ignorant of the Vedic texts but they did rehash it a bit in our bible as well.
I do wish to update us all on what China is up to.ttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/world/asia/chinas-great-uprooting-moving-250-million-into-cities.html?me&ref=general
They are moving their rural people into the uninhabited cities,while apparently using their land.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 07:29 AM
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People are moving into cities due to industrialization and mechanization of agriculture.

Is the Chinese government forcing people to move to cities? It is a densely populated country so any construction project would involve displacement of people. But would it add to 250 million (roughly 50% of agricultural land counting 500 million employed in agriculture).

What would the government do with this land?

The move to cities has happened all over the world, as the whole world society is transitioning from rural to industrial society.

I think minor news is massaged and inflated in case of China to convey a certain opinion.

The serious problem in both India and China is nepotism and corruption, specially corruption of civil servants.

Most of the disaffection of general public is due to misconduct of public servants.

However this has not reached a critical mass in China yet to cause a revolution. China provides many things (far better than India) to its citizens.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 06:57 PM
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Idon't know ,I'll figure it out when I'm dead.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:02 PM
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posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:20 PM
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Okay, what is this thread about, World War III? I clicked on most recent post to maybe see something like troop movements or something of that nature, and I find posters preaching? I have my own beliefs as anyone in this world is entitled to, please stay out of the forums that do not pertain to religion, not cool. Peace and Godspeed, Xenongod



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:22 PM
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posted on Jun, 18 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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"The country is estimated to have more than 180,000 protests each year and the ruling Communist Party spends vast sums on ensuring order -- more even than on its military, the largest in the world..."

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

I think this speaks volumes about the future of China - China is VERY unstable right now.

Joe





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