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Originally posted by DaTroof
1. The IRS is a federal entity, and therefore IRS offices and assets are to be treated as government property.
2. There's no way to know if a protest will resolve peacefully.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Originally posted by esdad71
We need a new Declaration of Independence like the original...
Absolute tyranny over the states. States rights are gone. Interstate commerce is now controlled, audited and spied upon with the passing of the Internet bill. It is time.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
This is the problem with a group like the Tea Party, Occupy, or Anonymous. Without any internal structure, anyone claiming to be a part of the group can bring down the entire group from within.
The guy that flew the plane into the IRS building in Texas, Joseph Stack, self identified Tea Party member.
Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by SQUEALER
Whos govt?
Whos $$$
Ours.
The Govt is supposed to be OUR protection.
..instead it is being used to divide and intimidate factions within because they think differently.
When the govt that is supposed to work for you turns, and starts working to get you- we all have problems.
WASHINGTON, May 22 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama will lay out the rationale for U.S. drone strikes in a speech on Thursday, a White House official said. "He will discuss why the use of drone strikes is necessary, legal, and just, while addressing the various issues raised by our use of targeted action," the official said.
Absolute tyranny over the states. States rights are gone. Interstate commerce is now controlled, audited and spied upon with the passing of the Internet bill. It is time.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by ruderalis1
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Anyone that doesn't understand that the "Tea Party" is just the newest label for a lot of previously existing right-wing extremists hasn't been to their websites. You can only threaten violent revolution so many times before people begin to take actions to protect from that kind of behavior.
DHS = SA and SS
The Sturmabteilung (SA) (German pronunciation: [ˈʃtʊɐ̯mʔapˌtaɪlʊŋ] ( listen); Storm Detachment or Assault Division, or Brownshirts) functioned as the original paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. It played a key role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Their main assignments were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies; the disruption of opposing political parties and the fight against their paramilitary units (esp. the Rotfrontkämpferbund); and the intimidation of Jewish citizens (e.g. the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses).
To me the DHS is turning into the new SA/SS. I also believe history repeats itself and we are not immune to that fact here in the USA
Well, which political party does the DHS serve? It doesn't serve a political party or a political agenda. It protects the people's government from the extremist elements that have vocally stated opposition.
I'm not condoning or berating their message. It isn't my point or purpose here. I am simply stating that these groups are looking to directly undermine a lawfully elected government of the United States, sometimes with the threatened use of force. It isn't like they are a bunch of pacifists having a sit-in.
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by guohua
Thank goodness we can count on the DHS to protect the U.S. from
terrible Tea Partiers, and counterfeit designer purses.
Sleep well folks knowing we are all safe, unless of course there is a real terrorist plot.edit on 22-5-2013 by burntheships because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
You can only threaten violent revolution so many times before people begin to take actions to protect from that kind of behavior.
Unless, that is your a radical Islamist group threatening to burn America,
complete with terrorist training camps here on U.S. soil.....
then you will get all of the understanding and special priveledge treatment,
government will go out of its way to accomodate you and make you feel at home.edit on 22-5-2013 by burntheships because: (no reason given)
Nah, they get singled out and profiled as well. Extremist elements are dealt with in whatever form they take. Jihadists. Westborough Baptists. Tea Party. Eco-Terror. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Extremists are extremists. If you advertise yourselves as violently opposing the government, expect to be targets.
At Occupy sites across the nation, a popular call-and-response chant goes like this: “Show us what democracy looks like? This is what democracy looks like!”
Originally posted by DaTroof
1. The IRS is a federal entity, and therefore IRS offices and assets are to be treated as government property.
2. There's no way to know if a protest will resolve peacefully.
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
You can only threaten violent revolution so many times before people begin to take actions to protect from that kind of behavior.
Unless, that is your a radical Islamist group threatening to burn America,
complete with terrorist training camps here on U.S. soil.....
then you will get all of the understanding and special priveledge treatment,
government will go out of its way to accomodate you and make you feel at home.edit on 22-5-2013 by burntheships because: (no reason given)
Nah, they get singled out and profiled as well. Extremist elements are dealt with in whatever form they take. Jihadists. Westborough Baptists. Tea Party. Eco-Terror. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Extremists are extremists. If you advertise yourselves as violently opposing the government, expect to be targets.
Originally posted by SimpleKnowledge
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I understand they are protesting the I R S targeting though I have never met any informed Americans who chant democracy that are educated about the founding of their county and know it's form of government. Democracy dose look like that you should learn that. Then Study at least four other form of government and tell me where a Representative Republic stands. I hope these kids learn they are pro democracy because they are ignorant and followers.
edit on 23-5-2013 by SimpleKnowledge because: edit